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  • undefined Con Hennekens
    30 Oct 2023, 15:57

    @Jure-Sirena-0, Why? I think you are using the wrong format then.

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    Jure Sirena 0
    wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 18:25 last edited by
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    @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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    • undefined Jure Sirena 0
      30 Oct 2023, 18:25

      @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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      wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 05:20 last edited by
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      @Jure-Sirena-0

      gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
      You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • undefined Jure Sirena 0
        30 Oct 2023, 18:25

        @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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        Con Hennekens
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        wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 07:43 last edited by
        #11

        @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

        • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
        • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
        • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

        So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
        Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

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        • undefined Con Hennekens
          31 Oct 2023, 07:43

          @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

          • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
          • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
          • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

          So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
          Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

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          wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 10:23 last edited by
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          @Con-Hennekens i never drive a track, just route. Its why we use 1.1 and waypoints.

          If we use 1.2 it happens that some waypoints or shaping points are not imported at all (its xT2 tread app issue)

          So by being able to choose waypoint / shaping point on the fly it helps

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          • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
            31 Oct 2023, 05:20

            @Jure-Sirena-0

            gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
            You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

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            wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 10:26 last edited by
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            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

            As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

            Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
            When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

            Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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            • undefined Con Hennekens
              31 Oct 2023, 07:43

              @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

              • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
              • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
              • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

              So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
              Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

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              Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
              RouteXpert
              wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 14:53 last edited by
              #14

              @Con-Hennekens said in Query when setting waypoint:

              if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
              if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
              if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

              So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.

              gpx 1.2 is a route-track with viapoints, the route-track will be converted to a route in your XT(2)

              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • undefined Jure Sirena 0
                31 Oct 2023, 10:26

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                RouteXpert
                wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 14:57 last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                #15

                @Jure-Sirena-0

                If you only have a start and end point, you have the track.

                If you compose the route properly, a GPX 1.2 also works perfectly, I don't use anything else.
                If you use the connector, a GPX 1.2 will also work well in an XT2

                If you use the Tread app, it is best to use the GPX 1.1 and its track, because the Tread app and the Garmin Explore website cannot yet process route files properly. A track is processed properly.

                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • undefined Jure Sirena 0
                  31 Oct 2023, 10:26

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                  As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                  Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                  When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                  Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                  Lynchy67
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                  wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:05 last edited by
                  #16

                  @Jure-Sirena-0

                  I also have the XT2.
                  You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                  Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                  Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                  Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                  90511.png

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • undefined Lynchy67
                    31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                    @Jure-Sirena-0

                    I also have the XT2.
                    You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                    Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                    Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                    Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                    90511.png

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                    Corjan Meijerink
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                    wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:19 last edited by
                    #17

                    @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

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                    • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                      31 Oct 2023, 21:19

                      @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

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                      Lynchy67
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                      wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:25 last edited by Lynchy67
                      #18

                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                      ,
                      I reckon it would love it, 90% country lanes, you know, the ones with the grass/moss in the middle.
                      Whilst it wasn't raining today there must have been a lot of rain overnight, the Tiger1200 Rally Pro got a bit dirty, as it should.
                      I ran the route with MyRoute-App not the XT2 which is my back up.
                      Haven't had to use the XT2 once yet. 👍

                      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                      • undefined Lynchy67
                        31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                        @Jure-Sirena-0

                        I also have the XT2.
                        You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                        Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                        Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                        Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                        90511.png

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                        Jure Sirena 0
                        wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 23:44 last edited by
                        #19

                        @Lynchy67 guys thanks for help but we cant use connector in moto tour company….10-20 devices sometimes need to be managed on the fly and then all synced asap. i know how to use connector.
                        As said all is well I adapt some things and use only 1.1

                        But its all about original post not about files and connectors - it would really help to have this option.

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                        • undefined Lynchy67
                          31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                          @Jure-Sirena-0

                          I also have the XT2.
                          You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                          Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                          Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                          Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                          90511.png

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                          RouteXpert
                          wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 05:04 last edited by
                          #20

                          @Lynchy67

                          And here the gpx 1.2 route, Track and via points
                          Black = Track
                          5aa48009-5c07-4420-8af0-de6dcf59cfd5-25792.png

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                          • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                            2 Nov 2023, 05:04

                            @Lynchy67

                            And here the gpx 1.2 route, Track and via points
                            Black = Track
                            5aa48009-5c07-4420-8af0-de6dcf59cfd5-25792.png

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                            Lynchy67
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                            wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 12:12 last edited by Lynchy67 11 Feb 2023, 12:30
                            #21

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                            As the XT2 is my back up (I use MyRoute-App on Android as my main device with the full Quadlock set up) I never really bothered with the Track before.
                            I guess I should add the Track for those unforeseen blockages that require me to go off route and then re-join further ahead.

                            Thanks for the reminder. 👍

                            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                            • undefined Lynchy67
                              2 Nov 2023, 12:12

                              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                              As the XT2 is my back up (I use MyRoute-App on Android as my main device with the full Quadlock set up) I never really bothered with the Track before.
                              I guess I should add the Track for those unforeseen blockages that require me to go off route and then re-join further ahead.

                              Thanks for the reminder. 👍

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                              RouteXpert
                              wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 12:40 last edited by
                              #22

                              @Lynchy67

                              The XT2 is my BackUp too.

                              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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