New Beta! (v4.0.6)
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@Drabslab said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
The more (useful) features that improve planning, and navigation, that cannot be exported to let's say Garmin or TomTom, the better
I thought I didn't understand it well because I speak Dutch and had this sentence translated by my friends from Google.
Hoe meer (nuttige) functies die de planning en navigatie verbeteren, die niet kunnen worden geΓ«xporteerd naar bijvoorbeeld Garmin of TomTom, hoe beter
Did you forget to put forty-two smileys behind this?
@Jack-van-Tilburg said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Did you forget to put forty-two smileys behind this?
Maybe 42 smileys is a bit much but I am convinced that integration of planning and navigation is the Killer combination.
Until now, MRA has for planning been restricted by the need to transfer routes to external GPS Devices and for instance: a spoken text connected to a waypoint was in this case likely not an option.
Combining navigation and planning on a single platform could open a world of possibilities whereby planning enriches the navigation experience far beyond what the GPX standard implementations on Garmin or TomTom can handle.
It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby
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@Jack-van-Tilburg said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Did you forget to put forty-two smileys behind this?
Maybe 42 smileys is a bit much but I am convinced that integration of planning and navigation is the Killer combination.
Until now, MRA has for planning been restricted by the need to transfer routes to external GPS Devices and for instance: a spoken text connected to a waypoint was in this case likely not an option.
Combining navigation and planning on a single platform could open a world of possibilities whereby planning enriches the navigation experience far beyond what the GPX standard implementations on Garmin or TomTom can handle.
@Drabslab
But I read anyway; the more (useful) features and improvements that cannot be used by TomTom and Garmin users the better.
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@Drabslab
But I read anyway; the more (useful) features and improvements that cannot be used by TomTom and Garmin users the better.
Or is there a translation problem and should I look for a new babelfish?@Jack-van-Tilburg I think your translation is working perfectly and I agree with @Drabslab - The more unique features that MRA can introduce only for MRA users, the better it will be for the company.
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@Jack-van-Tilburg I think your translation is working perfectly and I agree with @Drabslab - The more unique features that MRA can introduce only for MRA users, the better it will be for the company.
@Nick-Carthew
I'll have to think about that some more.
The first question that comes to my mind is what will happen in the future with the improved Planner functions for users who do not use MRA Navigation. Because you both really say that "they cannot be exported (used) by TomTom and Garmin". And apparently you support that too -
@Nick-Carthew
I'll have to think about that some more.
The first question that comes to my mind is what will happen in the future with the improved Planner functions for users who do not use MRA Navigation. Because you both really say that "they cannot be exported (used) by TomTom and Garmin". And apparently you support that too@Jack-van-Tilburg said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
I'll have to think about that some more.
The more, the better. Its the same as in Dutch. Hoe meer, hoe beter.
It is intended as "the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA Navigation" (and that's good, isn't it?)
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
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@Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Recently, the Routeplanner got support for new pause icons. This version of the app now also supports all these new icons!
Developing new features that improve both the planner and the navigator, and that cannot be achieved by other platforms where planner and GPS device/soft are not integrated, will make MRA the ultimate champion of navigation.
The more (useful) features that improve planning, and navigation, that cannot be exported to let's say Garmin or TomTom, the better.
@Drabslab said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Developing new features that improve both the planner and the navigator, and that cannot be achieved by other platforms where planner and GPS device/soft are not integrated, will make MRA the ultimate champion of navigation.
Agree! So much more than simple GPX files is possible within the integrated MRA eco-system! Things like the pause symbols, integration of POIs is a route, that can be added to the route, during the ride, at will, or pronouncing anything you add as a note. It makes a TT or Zumo something of the previous century
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@Jack-van-Tilburg said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
I'll have to think about that some more.
The more, the better. Its the same as in Dutch. Hoe meer, hoe beter.
It is intended as "the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA Navigation" (and that's good, isn't it?)@Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA
I don't agree with that at all. But, let's not get hostile here.
I'm an old-school biker. And an old-school user of the navi.
My comment was posted mainly because of the future of the Planner for others than MRA Navigation. Perhaps the largest group of Planner users. But of course I don't know that.
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@Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA
I don't agree with that at all. But, let's not get hostile here.
I'm an old-school biker. And an old-school user of the navi.
My comment was posted mainly because of the future of the Planner for others than MRA Navigation. Perhaps the largest group of Planner users. But of course I don't know that.
And that same comment is misplaced in this topic.@Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ CAT S52 + MRA app -
@Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.
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@Con-Hennekens
Stop challenging me@Jack-van-Tilburg, I am sorry you feel it that way. I am not trying to challenge any one or anything.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
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Mooie update weer! Dankjewel
Klopt het dat ik alleen uit de stem van Xander kan kiezen in de app of gaat daar iets mis?
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@Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.
@Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
make oldskool navigation users jealous, do I know a lot of bikers and navigation users.
Usually they only give me an impression of envy at the thought that there would be a stable navigator that is simple and intuitive to use.
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@Jack-van-Tilburg, I am sorry you feel it that way. I am not trying to challenge any one or anything.
@Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.
This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.
Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done
It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby
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@Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.
This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.
Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done
@Drabslab thanks
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@Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.
This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.
Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done
@Drabslab, exactly, thank you.
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Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.
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Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.
@Arno-0 I have had the same problem the last couple of days with 4.06 -231 with Android 14 (Pixel 6 Pro). I manually switched to offline for a while and then changed back to online after which there were no more issues.
The problem for me always seems to occur when I start the route and does not seem to stop unless I force offline for a while, or I cancel navigation of a route and then restart.
Very strange and I am not sure what is going on. More testing needed.
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Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.
@Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.
It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.
@Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.
Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.
I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ CAT S52 + MRA app -
@Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.
It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.
@Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.
Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.
I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).
@Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).
Ok. Good idea. I will give that a go with WiFi off next time. Additionally, it seems to only happen on my Android phone and not my iPhone. More testing needed with both devices and I will report back.
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@Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.
It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.
@Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):
Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.
Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.
I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).
@Con-Hennekens thanks for your explanation.
"What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app)."
I was not connected to WiFi but used the mobile Internet connection from my phone so this does not solve the problem.
