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  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

    Recently, the Routeplanner got support for new pause icons. This version of the app now also supports all these new icons!

    Developing new features that improve both the planner and the navigator, and that cannot be achieved by other platforms where planner and GPS device/soft are not integrated, will make MRA the ultimate champion of navigation.

    The more (useful) features that improve planning, and navigation, that cannot be exported to let's say Garmin or TomTom, the better.

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    @Drabslab said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

    Developing new features that improve both the planner and the navigator, and that cannot be achieved by other platforms where planner and GPS device/soft are not integrated, will make MRA the ultimate champion of navigation.

    Agree! So much more than simple GPX files is possible within the integrated MRA eco-system! Things like the pause symbols, integration of POIs is a route, that can be added to the route, during the ride, at will, or pronouncing anything you add as a note. It makes a TT or Zumo something of the previous century 😉

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @Jack-van-Tilburg said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

      I'll have to think about that some more.

      The more, the better. Its the same as in Dutch. Hoe meer, hoe beter.
      It is intended as "the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA Navigation" (and that's good, isn't it?) 😉

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      @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

      the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA

      I don't agree with that at all. But, let's not get hostile here.
      I'm an old-school biker. And an old-school user of the navi.
      My comment was posted mainly because of the future of the Planner for others than MRA Navigation. Perhaps the largest group of Planner users. But of course I don't know that.
      And that same comment is misplaced in this topic.

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      • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

        @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

        the more features and improvements that cannot be used by <fill in your preference of oldskool GPS unit>, the more of those users will turn to MRA

        I don't agree with that at all. But, let's not get hostile here.
        I'm an old-school biker. And an old-school user of the navi.
        My comment was posted mainly because of the future of the Planner for others than MRA Navigation. Perhaps the largest group of Planner users. But of course I don't know that.
        And that same comment is misplaced in this topic.

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        wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
        #16

        @Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.

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          @Con-Hennekens
          Stop challenging me

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          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

            @Con-Hennekens
            Stop challenging me

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            @Jack-van-Tilburg, I am sorry you feel it that way. I am not trying to challenge any one or anything.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              Mooie update weer! Dankjewel 👍👍

              Klopt het dat ik alleen uit de stem van Xander kan kiezen in de app of gaat daar iets mis?

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Jack-van-Tilburg, you do not really think there should be no new features in the planner to not make oldskool navigation users jealous, do you? The wording is not intended to bully tomtom and garmin users, it is intended to express that development of the MRS ecosystem should not be held back to the standard of those devices, when so much more is possible.

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                @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                make oldskool navigation users jealous, do I know a lot of bikers and navigation users.

                Usually they only give me an impression of envy at the thought that there would be a stable navigator that is simple and intuitive to use.
                But this topic is about the recent Beta. And the challenge is to avoid going completely off-topic.

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Jack-van-Tilburg, I am sorry you feel it that way. I am not trying to challenge any one or anything.

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                  @Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.

                  This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.

                  Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done

                  It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                    @Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.

                    This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.

                    Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done

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                    @Drabslab thanks 😉

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                    • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                      @Con-Hennekens @Jack-van-Tilburg sorry guys i really did not intend to create any controverse here. I just believe that combining planning and navigating will lead to capabilities that will go beyond what can be transfered to third party gps devices.

                      This should not be a hostile act to annoy users completely happy with other gps devices.

                      Me remark was triggered by the announcement that now extra symbols first introduced in the planner are available on the next navigation. But lets close the subject now, i hope no harm done

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                      @Drabslab, exactly, thank you.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.

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                        • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                          Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.

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                          @Arno-0 I have had the same problem the last couple of days with 4.06 -231 with Android 14 (Pixel 6 Pro). I manually switched to offline for a while and then changed back to online after which there were no more issues.

                          The problem for me always seems to occur when I start the route and does not seem to stop unless I force offline for a while, or I cancel navigation of a route and then restart.

                          Very strange and I am not sure what is going on. More testing needed.

                          Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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                          iPhone 15 Pro
                          Chigee AIO-5 Play
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                          • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                            Yesterday, I used the new version on my OnePlus 6T following a 35 km route in online mode. In the morning from home to work and in the afternoon from work to home. In the morning it all worked ok without any problem. However, in the afternoon the app was constantly switching during the whole route between online and offline mode. When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode. On my phone I could see that it had a 4G mobile connection. Don't know whether this is an app problem because in the morning everything was ok. Back home I did a reset of my GPS information but could not test it already.

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                            #26

                            @Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                            When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.

                            It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.

                            @Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                            Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.

                            Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.

                            I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                              When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.

                              It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.

                              @Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                              Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.

                              Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.

                              I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).

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                              @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                              I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).

                              Ok. Good idea. I will give that a go with WiFi off next time. Additionally, it seems to only happen on my Android phone and not my iPhone. More testing needed with both devices and I will report back.

                              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                              iPhone 15 Pro
                              Chigee AIO-5 Play
                              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                @Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                                When back in online mode it was always searching quite some time for a GPS signal and when it has found GPS, it almost directly switched to offline mode.

                                It is not the GPS signal that gets lost. The icon with the round arrows means it is trying a recalculation. Without internet connection in online mode that is impossible.

                                @Dave-J-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.6):

                                Very strange and I am not sure what is going on.

                                Yes very strange indeed. This has been going on for several updates already. The internet-check detects a live connection and puts the phone in online status. A recalculation makes use of that connection, times out (at which time you see the icon with the round arrows) and decides to put it in offline mode again. Repeat.

                                I am assuming a problem with DNS or gateway after changing the method of internet connection (wifi to GSM or vice versa). What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app).

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                                @Con-Hennekens thanks for your explanation.

                                "What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app)."

                                I was not connected to WiFi but used the mobile Internet connection from my phone so this does not solve the problem.

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                                • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                                  @Con-Hennekens thanks for your explanation.

                                  "What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app)."

                                  I was not connected to WiFi but used the mobile Internet connection from my phone so this does not solve the problem.

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                                  @Arno-0 I think what @Con-Hennekens is saying is to turn off WiFi so that your device is not searching for a WiFi network as it may be this searching (even when not connected to a WiFi network) that may be triggering the problem. Indeed, this WiFi search may be the cause given my experience so far, particularly when leaving home but I will test this next week.

                                  Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                                  Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                                  iPhone 15 Pro
                                  Chigee AIO-5 Play
                                  Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                                  Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                                  • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                                    @Con-Hennekens thanks for your explanation.

                                    "What would be interesting to see is if it keeps occuring after starting the app and the route in GSM mode (so switch off wifi before starting the app)."

                                    I was not connected to WiFi but used the mobile Internet connection from my phone so this does not solve the problem.

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                                    @Arno-0 and @Dave-J-0, no what I meant is if this happens after having started the route from an active wifi connection, after you switch to an active gsm data connection. You know, when you start a route at home still connected to wifi, and your phone switches to gsm data when you leave your driveway. I am suspecting the app still tries to use DNS servers from the connection it started on. Or something similar.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                      @Arno-0 and @Dave-J-0, no what I meant is if this happens after having started the route from an active wifi connection, after you switch to an active gsm data connection. You know, when you start a route at home still connected to wifi, and your phone switches to gsm data when you leave your driveway. I am suspecting the app still tries to use DNS servers from the connection it started on. Or something similar.

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                                      @Con-Hennekens That could maybe be the cause of this problem. I use the phone only for navigation on my motorbike and I think that WiFi was switched off when I left home in the morning. At work, I remember, I turned it on to update the maps and think it was still active when I went home in the afternoon. I will test again what happens when WiFi is not active at all next week.

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                                        Today, I tested again the same route to and from the Office. I took care that I only used my mobile connection to both start and drive the route. The test was successful and I did not encounter any problems with constantly switching between online and offline modes and route calculations etc. So it seems important to not use different internet connections for starting and driving your routes.

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                                        • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                                          Today, I tested again the same route to and from the Office. I took care that I only used my mobile connection to both start and drive the route. The test was successful and I did not encounter any problems with constantly switching between online and offline modes and route calculations etc. So it seems important to not use different internet connections for starting and driving your routes.

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                                          @Arno-0, Thank you! I know it is asking a lot, but it would be great to see if this is really structural. So if you have the chance, repeat the test a few times, to deduct if it is really only happening when you started the route on wifi. I am doing the same thing, and it certainly looks that way.

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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