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  • undefined Hubert Thoring
    13 Nov 2023, 19:28

    @Corjan-Meijerink : BT Tasten für die MyRoute App Anwendung für Android und iPhone.

    Meine Suche hat ergeben bzw. gezeigt das nur eine ges. Lösung langfristig funktioniert, da es immer wieder scheitert wenn sich Basis Themen in Software oder Hardware im Umfeld der Hersteller ändern.

    Es gehört zwingend zusammen:

    • MRA Navi Lösung
    • BT Tasten Lösung

    Beides sollte aus einem Haus / einer Entwicklung hier dann von MEA Team kommen.

    Egal welche Lösung verfolgt wird, aus meiner Sicht gehört so eine BT Tastatur passend für MRA Navigation App Anwendung mit einer langfristigen Lösung für alle User auch zum Produkt der MRA ges. Lösung.

    Bitte MRA Team, löst das Problem, damit alle was gutes Langfristig haben.

    VG 👋

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    Con Hennekens
    Alpha tester
    wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 10:34 last edited by
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    @Hubert-Thoring said in MotoButtons Lite DIY project!:

    Es gehört zwingend zusammen:

    MRA Navi Lösung
    BT Tasten Lösung

    Why not add a dedicated hardware unit to the list...

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • undefined Jörgen
      13 Nov 2023, 21:13

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in MotoButtons Lite DIY project!:

      @Jörgen the connection crash seems very weird and not reproducible on any of our Androids / iPhones 🙂 Could be your device, could be the tablet or something else 🤷

      Sorry Corjan, I could reproduce on a Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie) and on Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (see Video).

      https://youtu.be/7crL4t3tJmE

      https://youtu.be/OdLeAfN4Xlw

      So I belive it is an issue.

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      Developer
      wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 13:30 last edited by
      #25

      @Jörgen I don't have this specific BT device myself.
      If you would try the same with another BT controller (or just a wireless BT keyboard), doe this then also reproduce the issue?

      Just to illustratie, I've testen with SilverFox, BarButtons & Carpe Iter which all worked fine on connecting / disconnecting.

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      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
        14 Nov 2023, 13:30

        @Jörgen I don't have this specific BT device myself.
        If you would try the same with another BT controller (or just a wireless BT keyboard), doe this then also reproduce the issue?

        Just to illustratie, I've testen with SilverFox, BarButtons & Carpe Iter which all worked fine on connecting / disconnecting.

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        Jörgen
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        wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 14:20 last edited by
        #26

        @Corjan-Meijerink you are right it could be related to this BT controller. May be the update will change something.
        Anyway, I have asked the developer if it possible that the controller sents something during connect/disconnect that could cause this.

        Hardware
        iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
        Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
        Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
        Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
        Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
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          Robert Jeffries
          wrote on 10 Mar 2024, 18:35 last edited by
          #27

          Top view.jpg Top view 2.jpg Side view.jpg End view.jpg Bottom view.jpg

          This is my version of the Motobuttons controller. The case is 3D printed and allows the joystick to remain waterproof without the sealing required in the original.

          I have used two 3mm LED's as I had them and the buttons in my "box of bits".

          The case is 84mm long, 24mm wide and 36mm tall. I could have made it about 100mm long and about 20mm tall but this size fits better on my R1250GS.

          The software works exactly as described.

          Thank you joncox123 for a fabulous project.

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          • undefined Robert Jeffries
            10 Mar 2024, 18:35

            Top view.jpg Top view 2.jpg Side view.jpg End view.jpg Bottom view.jpg

            This is my version of the Motobuttons controller. The case is 3D printed and allows the joystick to remain waterproof without the sealing required in the original.

            I have used two 3mm LED's as I had them and the buttons in my "box of bits".

            The case is 84mm long, 24mm wide and 36mm tall. I could have made it about 100mm long and about 20mm tall but this size fits better on my R1250GS.

            The software works exactly as described.

            Thank you joncox123 for a fabulous project.

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            Jörgen
            Valued contributor
            wrote on 10 Mar 2024, 19:36 last edited by
            #28

            @Robert-Jeffries Hi, Robert interesting version you made. Do you have a picture how and where you mount it to the bike?

            I ask Jon to implement „skip way point“ to make it more compatible to MRA. Have you seen the latest version of the code.

            I have little problem when the controller lost power while navigating, MRA then hangs and need restart. Have you seen this as well?

            Hardware
            iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
            Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
            Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
            Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
            Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
            For more information, click here

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            • undefined Robert Jeffries
              10 Mar 2024, 18:35

              Top view.jpg Top view 2.jpg Side view.jpg End view.jpg Bottom view.jpg

              This is my version of the Motobuttons controller. The case is 3D printed and allows the joystick to remain waterproof without the sealing required in the original.

              I have used two 3mm LED's as I had them and the buttons in my "box of bits".

              The case is 84mm long, 24mm wide and 36mm tall. I could have made it about 100mm long and about 20mm tall but this size fits better on my R1250GS.

              The software works exactly as described.

              Thank you joncox123 for a fabulous project.

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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 10:19 last edited by
              #29

              @Robert-Jeffries, very interesting! Did you use the same joystick? Did you press the rubber against the inside of the case?

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • undefined Con Hennekens
                11 Mar 2024, 10:19

                @Robert-Jeffries, very interesting! Did you use the same joystick? Did you press the rubber against the inside of the case?

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                Jörgen
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                wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 18:09 last edited by
                #30

                @Con-Hennekens I have problems with this joystick. Up, down, left, right is ok but Center switch is difficult to use.

                Hardware
                iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                For more information, click here

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                • undefined Jörgen
                  11 Mar 2024, 18:09

                  @Con-Hennekens I have problems with this joystick. Up, down, left, right is ok but Center switch is difficult to use.

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                  richtea999
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                  wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 19:03 last edited by
                  #31

                  @Jörgen said in MotoButtons Lite DIY project!:

                  @Con-Hennekens I have problems with this joystick. Up, down, left, right is ok but Center switch is difficult to use.

                  As in difficult to press, or difficult not to accidentally rock sideways when pressing?

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                  • richtea999undefined richtea999
                    11 Mar 2024, 19:03

                    @Jörgen said in MotoButtons Lite DIY project!:

                    @Con-Hennekens I have problems with this joystick. Up, down, left, right is ok but Center switch is difficult to use.

                    As in difficult to press, or difficult not to accidentally rock sideways when pressing?

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                    Jörgen
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                    wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 19:14 last edited by
                    #32

                    @richtea999 Yes moving in any direction instead hitting Center is nearly always happen.
                    I would give Center a new button if I had more space in the small case.

                    Hardware
                    iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                    Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                    Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                    Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                    Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                    For more information, click here

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                    • undefined Jörgen
                      11 Mar 2024, 19:14

                      @richtea999 Yes moving in any direction instead hitting Center is nearly always happen.
                      I would give Center a new button if I had more space in the small case.

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                      richtea999
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                      wrote on 11 Mar 2024, 22:40 last edited by
                      #33

                      @Jörgen Thanks Jörgen, very useful info, if/when I get around to making one.

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                        harupipapaZZZ
                        wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 09:06 last edited by harupipapaZZZ
                        #34

                        I also love the moto button.
                        I tried making something like this.

                        I sent a request to Github, but the long press of the center button works as a virtual button.

                        I would like to set it so that the A and B buttons are also long pressed.
                        But I don't know how.
                        Does anyone know?

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                        • undefined harupipapaZZZ
                          25 Mar 2024, 09:06

                          I also love the moto button.
                          I tried making something like this.

                          I sent a request to Github, but the long press of the center button works as a virtual button.

                          I would like to set it so that the A and B buttons are also long pressed.
                          But I don't know how.
                          Does anyone know?

                          7EF20038-17B7-44E1-9D0E-7F17D22695D4_1_105_c.jpeg 95735343-C683-48FA-B500-C617A1C2DB4B_1_105_c.jpeg A286EED6-15EE-4DD2-AE1B-166A0AB6798E_1_105_c.jpeg

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                          Jörgen
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                          wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 09:22 last edited by
                          #35

                          @harupipapaZZZ Hi, you need to add something to the existing code, you need programming skills (I think it's written in C).
                          A friend did this for me and put the function "skip waypoint" on the A key when you press and hold it.
                          This works in principle, but the long press triggers a zoom in. So it's not perfect yet.

                          Jon the developer has now released a new version, but the function is built in incorrectly.
                          He's reacting a bit slowly at the moment, he's probably very busy.
                          My friend is currently looking at how Jon has programmed the function and is comparing it with his version. Maybe we can find a solution in the meantime.
                          There is alittle change in the zoom +/- function needed, that zoom react only on one key hit (means one click zooms one step) with this a long press will not zoom in/out a lot when a long press function is added.

                          Hardware
                          iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                          Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                          For more information, click here

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                          • undefined Jörgen
                            25 Mar 2024, 09:22

                            @harupipapaZZZ Hi, you need to add something to the existing code, you need programming skills (I think it's written in C).
                            A friend did this for me and put the function "skip waypoint" on the A key when you press and hold it.
                            This works in principle, but the long press triggers a zoom in. So it's not perfect yet.

                            Jon the developer has now released a new version, but the function is built in incorrectly.
                            He's reacting a bit slowly at the moment, he's probably very busy.
                            My friend is currently looking at how Jon has programmed the function and is comparing it with his version. Maybe we can find a solution in the meantime.
                            There is alittle change in the zoom +/- function needed, that zoom react only on one key hit (means one click zooms one step) with this a long press will not zoom in/out a lot when a long press function is added.

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                            harupipapaZZZ
                            wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 09:41 last edited by
                            #36

                            @Jörgen
                            Is it possible to send your code?
                            I'll try and compare.

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                            • undefined harupipapaZZZ
                              25 Mar 2024, 09:41

                              @Jörgen
                              Is it possible to send your code?
                              I'll try and compare.

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                              Jörgen
                              Valued contributor
                              wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 09:43 last edited by
                              #37

                              @harupipapaZZZ send me a PN with your mail address. I can do it later.

                              Hardware
                              iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                              Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                              Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                              Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                              Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                              For more information, click here

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                              • undefined Jörgen
                                25 Mar 2024, 09:43

                                @harupipapaZZZ send me a PN with your mail address. I can do it later.

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                                harupipapaZZZ
                                wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 09:49 last edited by
                                #38

                                @Jörgen
                                I don't know how to PM so I put a message in your chat.

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                                • undefined harupipapaZZZ
                                  25 Mar 2024, 09:49

                                  @Jörgen
                                  I don't know how to PM so I put a message in your chat.

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                                  Con Hennekens
                                  Alpha tester
                                  wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 12:54 last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @harupipapaZZZ said in MotoButtons Lite DIY project!:

                                  I don't know how to PM so I put a message in your chat.

                                  That's quite the same thing... 😉

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • undefined Jörgen
                                    10 Mar 2024, 19:36

                                    @Robert-Jeffries Hi, Robert interesting version you made. Do you have a picture how and where you mount it to the bike?

                                    I ask Jon to implement „skip way point“ to make it more compatible to MRA. Have you seen the latest version of the code.

                                    I have little problem when the controller lost power while navigating, MRA then hangs and need restart. Have you seen this as well?

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                                    Robert Jeffries
                                    wrote on 27 Mar 2024, 13:20 last edited by
                                    #40

                                    @Jörgen yes I have updated the code to the latest version but have not yet tried the skip waypoint feature.

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                                    • undefined Con Hennekens
                                      11 Mar 2024, 10:19

                                      @Robert-Jeffries, very interesting! Did you use the same joystick? Did you press the rubber against the inside of the case?

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                                      Robert Jeffries
                                      wrote on 27 Mar 2024, 13:25 last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @Con-Hennekens yes I have used the same joystick and rubber cover. The joystick is clamped to the inside of the "box" and I've not any problems with water ingress although it could also be sealed with a fine bead of silicone if necessary.

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                                        harupipapaZZZ
                                        wrote on 29 Mar 2024, 16:28 last edited by
                                        #42

                                        Thanks to @Jörgen's communication, I found out the difference in the code of the long press program.

                                        Unfortunately, my controller is being modified and I can't try it out.

                                        The rest is the mode switching operation.
                                        Rather than switching sequentially,
                                        When you press the A and B buttons at the same time for more than 1 second, the mode will change to "Receiving changing mode".
                                        It would be very convenient if you could press UP, DOWN, LEFT, and RIGHT during this time to change directly to each mode.

                                        Even if I ask Chat GBT, they won't tell me the correct code.

                                        It would be nice to have someone who knows.

                                        This is mine.
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                                        To make the remote part thinner, a tact switch is used and the XIAO is stored in a separate box.

                                        this is another version
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                                        Buttons glow in the dark.
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                                          joncox
                                          wrote on 29 Sept 2024, 00:22 last edited by
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                                          I updated the open source, DIY, low cost MotoButtons navigation controller to version 2.0. Check out the video and the new GitHub repository. It now features a 3D printed case design and, optionally, a commercial waterproof joystick. This is an open source project and you have to build it yourself.

                                          https://youtu.be/i00laBGHPMg?feature=shared

                                          https://github.com/joncox123/MotoButtons2

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