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  • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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    Con Hennekens
    wrote on last edited by
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    Isn't wireless charging usually slower then cable charging? I read many comments on battery drain. I can imagine that problem will be bigger when charging wireless.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      Isn't wireless charging usually slower then cable charging? I read many comments on battery drain. I can imagine that problem will be bigger when charging wireless.

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      Lynchy67
      wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
      #9

      @Con-Hennekens

      Not if you have a QC3.0 Din Plug Charger for Samsung phones.
      Even when I’m recording my screen when using the beta on the road, the percentage will always be creeping slowly upwards.
      I never use navigation voice prompts or have any music on the phone and only have the Next App running.
      Also Samsung Phones, in my experience, are renowned for falsely reporting moisture ingress when charging directly with a USB lead, particularly on a motorbike.

      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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      • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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        Nick Carthew
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        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        Here is what QuadLock say about their wireless charger. QuadLock Wireless Charger

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        • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

          @Con-Hennekens

          Not if you have a QC3.0 Din Plug Charger for Samsung phones.
          Even when I’m recording my screen when using the beta on the road, the percentage will always be creeping slowly upwards.
          I never use navigation voice prompts or have any music on the phone and only have the Next App running.
          Also Samsung Phones, in my experience, are renowned for falsely reporting moisture ingress when charging directly with a USB lead, particularly on a motorbike.

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          Edwin_M
          wrote on last edited by Edwin_M
          #11

          @Lynchy67 i don't understand this, Quad lock says
          : Please Note:
          Apple devices charge at a maximum of 7.5W.
          The Galaxy S22, S21, S20 and Note20 ranges will charge wirelessly at a maximum of 5W.

          QC3is up to 36w , but the charging head will never do that.
          Also following cause I had some charging issue in rain , phone complained about moisture in port. So would like to switch to wireless but don't know if it will keep up...

          Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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          • Edwin_Mundefined Edwin_M

            @Lynchy67 i don't understand this, Quad lock says
            : Please Note:
            Apple devices charge at a maximum of 7.5W.
            The Galaxy S22, S21, S20 and Note20 ranges will charge wirelessly at a maximum of 5W.

            QC3is up to 36w , but the charging head will never do that.
            Also following cause I had some charging issue in rain , phone complained about moisture in port. So would like to switch to wireless but don't know if it will keep up...

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            Lynchy67
            wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
            #12

            @Edwin_M

            If you have 5 minutes then watch the video below which is sped up 6x.
            This is the video from last week that had the Waypoints numbers jumping ahead.
            Power Source is a £13 QC3.0 Din Plug from Amazon.
            Keep your eye on the Phone Percentage.
            No Drain whatsoever.
            Bare in mind that I was also screen recording on the phone.

            https://youtu.be/EPRw-3p_Dqw

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Edwin_Mundefined Edwin_M

              @Lynchy67 i don't understand this, Quad lock says
              : Please Note:
              Apple devices charge at a maximum of 7.5W.
              The Galaxy S22, S21, S20 and Note20 ranges will charge wirelessly at a maximum of 5W.

              QC3is up to 36w , but the charging head will never do that.
              Also following cause I had some charging issue in rain , phone complained about moisture in port. So would like to switch to wireless but don't know if it will keep up...

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              Lynchy67
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @Edwin_M

              The S21+ can do Super Fast Charging and Fast Wireless Charging.
              Fast Wireless Charging is what QC3.0 provides.
              They claim it is up to 4 times faster?

              IMG_1046.jpeg

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              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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              • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                @Edwin_M

                The S21+ can do Super Fast Charging and Fast Wireless Charging.
                Fast Wireless Charging is what QC3.0 provides.
                They claim it is up to 4 times faster?

                IMG_1046.jpeg

                IMG_1045.jpeg

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                Edwin_M
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @Lynchy67 My issue is that the information on the quadlock (website) is a bit confusing. What is the poweroutput/capability of the wireless head.
                it says fast charging supported, but also says the limitation power output on some devices.
                So I am a bit lost there 😞 . Even if you would have a QC3 power in to the wireless head, that will not be passed through by the wireless head, as that limits the output. 😕

                (I am using a spigen tough armor case now, and is the drop protection of quadlock as good as that.) It is a lot of money for those Quadlock and SP setups.... so a wireless RAM universal grip could also be an option.

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                QuadLock_Wireless_2023-05-23.png

                Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                  I'm wondering if someone has experience with the wireless charging version of Quad Lock and/or SP.
                  And of course, what would be the beste choice tb buy.

                  As I understand, both Quad Lock and SP have wireless charging options and have optional dempeners, two reasons why I consider buying one of these.

                  All tips are welcome!

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                  Corné Voogt
                  wrote on last edited by Corné Voogt
                  #15

                  @Dikke-Wim
                  I have the RAM−HOL−UN14WB, RAM Tough−Charge Quick−Grip, and this holds my iPhone XS (6.1”) very well. Especially with the extra rubber band (supplied ). It charges with 5V USB so that should provide 5W I guess.

                  I have used it on a 1 hour ride with MRA NEXT Beta 3.2.15 and the battery went DOWN from 76 to 56%! So that sucks.
                  I can’t use MRA on an all day ride if power consumption is not improved. ( Like in time for my upcoming Norway trip next month).

                  On the return ride I killed the MRA app and left all other apps (like music) on and the battery % stayed at the exact same level.
                  In other words, MRA Next 3.2.15 drains the battery faster than it can be charged with QI charger.

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                  • Corné Voogtundefined Corné Voogt

                    @Dikke-Wim
                    I have the RAM−HOL−UN14WB, RAM Tough−Charge Quick−Grip, and this holds my iPhone XS (6.1”) very well. Especially with the extra rubber band (supplied ). It charges with 5V USB so that should provide 5W I guess.

                    I have used it on a 1 hour ride with MRA NEXT Beta 3.2.15 and the battery went DOWN from 76 to 56%! So that sucks.
                    I can’t use MRA on an all day ride if power consumption is not improved. ( Like in time for my upcoming Norway trip next month).

                    On the return ride I killed the MRA app and left all other apps (like music) on and the battery % stayed at the exact same level.
                    In other words, MRA Next 3.2.15 drains the battery faster than it can be charged with QI charger.

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                    Edwin_M
                    wrote on last edited by Edwin_M
                    #16

                    @Corné-Voogt Tough-Charge should be 10W (on RAM site , I was new ones that should go up to 15W). But then an additional issue may occur? overheating?
                    according to motormount.nl RAM-HOL-UN14WB-V7M-1 should go up to 15W

                    Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                    • Corné Voogtundefined Corné Voogt

                      @Dikke-Wim
                      I have the RAM−HOL−UN14WB, RAM Tough−Charge Quick−Grip, and this holds my iPhone XS (6.1”) very well. Especially with the extra rubber band (supplied ). It charges with 5V USB so that should provide 5W I guess.

                      I have used it on a 1 hour ride with MRA NEXT Beta 3.2.15 and the battery went DOWN from 76 to 56%! So that sucks.
                      I can’t use MRA on an all day ride if power consumption is not improved. ( Like in time for my upcoming Norway trip next month).

                      On the return ride I killed the MRA app and left all other apps (like music) on and the battery % stayed at the exact same level.
                      In other words, MRA Next 3.2.15 drains the battery faster than it can be charged with QI charger.

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                      Con Hennekens
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @Corné-Voogt said in Quad lock versus SP to protect your mounted smartphone:

                      and left all other apps (like music) on and the battery % stayed at the exact same level.

                      I think if this happens, it is not only MRA draining your battery.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Neil Bartlettundefined Offline
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                        Neil Bartlett
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                        A little background for context. I do food delivery of up to ten hours a day, rain or shine. I have used the SP and Quad lock. In the beginning SP had better hardware (metal) and the Quad lock was plastic. SP also had wireless charging. So I went with SP. Fantastic hardware, poor electronic changing. My unit was replaced three times. IN NZ the distributor had so many claims they stopped supplying the product. Got a new iPhone 14 Pro Max, so changed to Quad lock system. That hurt, LOL. Currently can buy metal parts so good quality now. Wireless charging and vibration damper is great. Lock is OK but more fiddly than SP. I remove phone from bike twice every delivery so SP was better/quicker. Quad have a great Glass stick-on screen protector to fit a ph in their case, which works with standard magnetic charger as well as QL charger without removing case. Case also seems more water proof with no leakage into back of ph through camera holes. Over all, the QL is better in may opinion.

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                        • Neil Bartlettundefined Neil Bartlett

                          A little background for context. I do food delivery of up to ten hours a day, rain or shine. I have used the SP and Quad lock. In the beginning SP had better hardware (metal) and the Quad lock was plastic. SP also had wireless charging. So I went with SP. Fantastic hardware, poor electronic changing. My unit was replaced three times. IN NZ the distributor had so many claims they stopped supplying the product. Got a new iPhone 14 Pro Max, so changed to Quad lock system. That hurt, LOL. Currently can buy metal parts so good quality now. Wireless charging and vibration damper is great. Lock is OK but more fiddly than SP. I remove phone from bike twice every delivery so SP was better/quicker. Quad have a great Glass stick-on screen protector to fit a ph in their case, which works with standard magnetic charger as well as QL charger without removing case. Case also seems more water proof with no leakage into back of ph through camera holes. Over all, the QL is better in may opinion.

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                          Bart De Medts
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                          I have a Quad Lock vibration dampener with wireless charger and am very satisfied with it.

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                            I now see that for Quad Lock there is a 'poncho' available to prevent clicks on your smartphone by raindrops.
                            Maybe THE solution for the rain problems discussed above.

                            See: YouTube: Quad Lock poncho

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                            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                              I now see that for Quad Lock there is a 'poncho' available to prevent clicks on your smartphone by raindrops.
                              Maybe THE solution for the rain problems discussed above.

                              See: YouTube: Quad Lock poncho

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                              Lynchy67
                              wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                              #21

                              @Dikke-Wim
                              I’m not a fan of the Quad Lock Poncho to be honest as its so thick you can’t actually interact with the screen when its on.
                              It’s nothing more than a rain cover.

                              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                              • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                                @Dikke-Wim
                                I’m not a fan of the Quad Lock Poncho to be honest as its so thick you can’t actually interact with the screen when its on.
                                It’s nothing more than a rain cover.

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                                @Lynchy67 I just use a zip lock bag. 😊

                                2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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