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  • undefined flamingm0e
    6 Mar 2023, 00:36

    @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

    I also tested heavily garmin zumo xt. Nice device but management of device is very difficult, you need laptop with you….

    You don't need a laptop to use a Zumo XT. I haven't connected my Zumo XT to my computer in months. It works 100% wirelessly.

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    Jure Sirena 0
    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 10:20 last edited by
    #41

    @Matt-Flaming You cannot manage routes on the fly with app. Cant you, you speak about import / export mainly. I speak about management of already preapred routes. This is where MRA and Tomtom drive are the best.

    MRA - you open route changes are saved asap - you GO

    Tomtom Drive app, you open route, change, delete, move....click sync with device, new (or old) route already awaits on device (without touching GPS device)

    This is my point

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      6 Mar 2023, 13:12

      @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

      How do you mange large routes - especially on trip. Well MRA route planner is answer but with garmin itself?

      What do you mean?

      Create the route. Open the route in Explore on your phone and it syncs automatically. Or open it with Drive and send it to the Zumo. I don't connect my Zumo to my computer at all unless I want to play around with Open Street Maps or themes.

      In fact, my Zumo is locked on my bike nearly 100% of the time.

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      Jure Sirena 0
      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 10:22 last edited by Jure Sirena 0
      #42

      @Matt-Flaming This is my point - not import, export but change / management of routes while on the trip / being mobile - and for that you almost need a laptop....because there is nothing interactive at Garmin

      But I have a feeling Garmin explore for Andrpoid is different then the one for iphone. I cant manage almost anything with app on iphone

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      • undefined Jure Sirena 0
        13 Mar 2023, 10:20

        @Matt-Flaming You cannot manage routes on the fly with app. Cant you, you speak about import / export mainly. I speak about management of already preapred routes. This is where MRA and Tomtom drive are the best.

        MRA - you open route changes are saved asap - you GO

        Tomtom Drive app, you open route, change, delete, move....click sync with device, new (or old) route already awaits on device (without touching GPS device)

        This is my point

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        flamingm0e
        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:42 last edited by
        #43

        @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

        You cannot manage routes on the fly with app.

        Sure you can.

        You can use MRA, and send it to Explore or Drive using the phone app.

        @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

        that you almost need a laptop....because there is nothing interactive at Garmin

        Again, OPEN the route in Drive or Explore....it will send directly to the Zumo...

        @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

        But I have a feeling Garmin explore for Andrpoid is different then the one for iphone. I cant manage almost anything with app on iphone

        It's not. I use both. Really simple to sync new/updated routes.

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          Bas Greve
          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:00 last edited by
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          Zijn er al ervaringen met deze https://www.amazon.nl/Motorfiets-Navigatie-Fodsports-Waterdicht-Bluetooth/dp/B08LHDR9F1
          Dat is wel een GPS. Het lijkt me handig. Route maken op de PC. Inloggen op het device op MRA en direct vertrekken

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          • undefined flamingm0e
            13 Mar 2023, 14:42

            @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

            You cannot manage routes on the fly with app.

            Sure you can.

            You can use MRA, and send it to Explore or Drive using the phone app.

            @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

            that you almost need a laptop....because there is nothing interactive at Garmin

            Again, OPEN the route in Drive or Explore....it will send directly to the Zumo...

            @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

            But I have a feeling Garmin explore for Andrpoid is different then the one for iphone. I cant manage almost anything with app on iphone

            It's not. I use both. Really simple to sync new/updated routes.

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            Jure Sirena 0
            wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:03 last edited by Jure Sirena 0
            #45

            @Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
            Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

            on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import
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            • undefined Jure Sirena 0
              13 Mar 2023, 15:03

              @Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
              Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

              on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import
              a1974516-fa4b-42ee-81bb-c71f1667144e-image.png

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              flamingm0e
              wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 16:19 last edited by
              #46

              @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

              @Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
              Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

              on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import
              a1974516-fa4b-42ee-81bb-c71f1667144e-image.png

              I never said anything about editing in Explore....

              Edit route in MRA. Open route with Explore. It syncs with Zumo. It's literally that simple. You're making it out to be something it isn't.

              But I'm done with this conversation because you're not going to grasp what I'm saying without trying it.

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              • undefined flamingm0e
                14 Mar 2023, 16:19

                @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                @Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
                Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

                on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import
                a1974516-fa4b-42ee-81bb-c71f1667144e-image.png

                I never said anything about editing in Explore....

                Edit route in MRA. Open route with Explore. It syncs with Zumo. It's literally that simple. You're making it out to be something it isn't.

                But I'm done with this conversation because you're not going to grasp what I'm saying without trying it.

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                Jure Sirena 0
                wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 17:33 last edited by
                #47

                @Matt-Flaming
                Oh I have zumoxt (4 bikes with them)
                Sorry not to get my point. I understand using more apps but that was not the point

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                • undefined Jure Sirena 0
                  14 Mar 2023, 17:33

                  @Matt-Flaming
                  Oh I have zumoxt (4 bikes with them)
                  Sorry not to get my point. I understand using more apps but that was not the point

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                  flamingm0e
                  wrote on 15 Mar 2023, 14:51 last edited by
                  #48

                  @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                  I understand using more apps but that was not the point

                  You're not using more apps...

                  Seriously, OPENING the route in Explore creates a collection. That collection AUTOMATICALLY syncs to the Zumo. So it's one step, the same as ticking a box in MyDrive. Open the route in Explore, it syncs, you have your new route right there.

                  OR

                  Open it in Drive, and "send to zumo"...DONE. It's not like you're editing the thing in a different application. You're just initiating the sync.

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                    Jure Sirena 0
                    wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 15:31 last edited by
                    #49

                    The final verdict of my problem:

                    After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
                    Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
                    but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

                    So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

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                    • undefined Jure Sirena 0
                      20 Mar 2023, 15:31

                      The final verdict of my problem:

                      After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
                      Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
                      but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

                      So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

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                      Tim Thompson
                      wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 16:36 last edited by
                      #50

                      @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                      The final verdict of my problem:

                      After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
                      Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
                      but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

                      So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

                      Not that it matters anymore...

                      But it sounded as if the common denominator was your phone.

                      I have no problem with my iPhone, CP and going back and forth between my car and this device. So far it has connected to both automatically without fail or issue.

                      Did you try the same experiment with the other iPhones? Were the other iPhones able to go between the cars and this device without issue?

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                      • undefined Tim Thompson
                        20 Mar 2023, 16:36

                        @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                        The final verdict of my problem:

                        After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
                        Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
                        but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

                        So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

                        Not that it matters anymore...

                        But it sounded as if the common denominator was your phone.

                        I have no problem with my iPhone, CP and going back and forth between my car and this device. So far it has connected to both automatically without fail or issue.

                        Did you try the same experiment with the other iPhones? Were the other iPhones able to go between the cars and this device without issue?

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                        Jure Sirena 0
                        wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 18:32 last edited by Jure Sirena 0
                        #51

                        @Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

                        same issue

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                        • undefined Jure Sirena 0
                          20 Mar 2023, 18:32

                          @Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

                          same issue

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                          Tim Thompson
                          wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 19:13 last edited by
                          #52

                          @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                          @Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

                          same issue

                          Oh... So you are saying that all 3 iPhones tested had troubles going back and forth between your cars and this device? All 3 phones would connect to your 2 cars without issue, but all 3 phones would fail to connect to the device after being connected to one of your cars?

                          If I understood that correctly... Don't know what to tell ya. Doesn't matter anyway... You've already made the problem go away... Just not in the way one might prefer.

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                          • undefined Tim Thompson
                            20 Mar 2023, 19:13

                            @Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

                            @Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

                            same issue

                            Oh... So you are saying that all 3 iPhones tested had troubles going back and forth between your cars and this device? All 3 phones would connect to your 2 cars without issue, but all 3 phones would fail to connect to the device after being connected to one of your cars?

                            If I understood that correctly... Don't know what to tell ya. Doesn't matter anyway... You've already made the problem go away... Just not in the way one might prefer.

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                            Jure Sirena 0
                            wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 19:49 last edited by
                            #53

                            @Tim-Thompson yes thats it.

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