Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested

[Tim Thompson]

So I've done some initial testing with my unit (BINIZE variant).

Start up to CP with navigation app loaded (in this case Scenic)... 30 seconds every time. No failures, No issues. So far no need to repeat pairing. This thing has worked fine so far.

About having the navigation and route queued up and ready before stepping out to the bike. No problem, queue it up on the phone. Apply power to the unit and 30 seconds later you're ready to navigate. If starting the bike power cycles the unit, no big deal, the phone still has the nav app running. So, the unit will be up and ready to navigate in 30 seconds after engine start. Seems reasonable to me.

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Matt-Flaming You cannot manage routes on the fly with app. Cant you, you speak about import / export mainly. I speak about management of already preapred routes. This is where MRA and Tomtom drive are the best.

MRA - you open route changes are saved asap - you GO

Tomtom Drive app, you open route, change, delete, move....click sync with device, new (or old) route already awaits on device (without touching GPS device)

This is my point

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Matt-Flaming This is my point - not import, export but change / management of routes while on the trip / being mobile - and for that you almost need a laptop....because there is nothing interactive at Garmin

But I have a feeling Garmin explore for Andrpoid is different then the one for iphone. I cant manage almost anything with app on iphone

[flamingm0e]

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

You cannot manage routes on the fly with app.

Sure you can.

You can use MRA, and send it to Explore or Drive using the phone app.

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

that you almost need a laptop....because there is nothing interactive at Garmin

Again, OPEN the route in Drive or Explore....it will send directly to the Zumo...

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

But I have a feeling Garmin explore for Andrpoid is different then the one for iphone. I cant manage almost anything with app on iphone

It's not. I use both. Really simple to sync new/updated routes.

[Bas Greve]

Zijn er al ervaringen met deze https://www.amazon.nl/Motorfiets-Navigatie-Fodsports-Waterdicht-Bluetooth/dp/B08LHDR9F1
Dat is wel een GPS. Het lijkt me handig. Route maken op de PC. Inloggen op het device op MRA en direct vertrekken

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import

[flamingm0e]

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

@Matt-Flaming Ok I get it, using 2-3 apps. Its actually what I ment.
Nevertheless I cant edit routes in explore I only have rename and edit colours....no way to open existing route and work on it, yes for MRA of course, that I get it

on top.......I really cant do anything with explore, except import

I never said anything about editing in Explore....

Edit route in MRA. Open route with Explore. It syncs with Zumo. It's literally that simple. You're making it out to be something it isn't.

But I'm done with this conversation because you're not going to grasp what I'm saying without trying it.

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Matt-Flaming
Oh I have zumoxt (4 bikes with them)
Sorry not to get my point. I understand using more apps but that was not the point

[flamingm0e]

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

I understand using more apps but that was not the point

You're not using more apps...

Seriously, OPENING the route in Explore creates a collection. That collection AUTOMATICALLY syncs to the Zumo. So it's one step, the same as ticking a box in MyDrive. Open the route in Explore, it syncs, you have your new route right there.

OR

Open it in Drive, and "send to zumo"...DONE. It's not like you're editing the thing in a different application. You're just initiating the sync.

[Jure Sirena 0]

The final verdict of my problem:

After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

[Tim Thompson]

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

The final verdict of my problem:

After testing 3 iphones, it was clear it only happened on mine. It is now confirmed, that everytime I connect carplay with my phone in car, it will not connect to device next time.....
Dealer says it is ios problem and doesnt want to support the issue. It is clearly device problem, as my phone has no problem with the 2 cars we have at home. It switches between then flawlessly.
but as soon as I connect to device with new pairing procedure, it will work for days, moths or minutes until I connect same phone to carplay in any of the cars. After that device needs new pairing OR manual activation of SPP option under the BT menu of paired phone....

So its clearly device problem. I sold it today for 50€. Crap.

Not that it matters anymore...

But it sounded as if the common denominator was your phone.

I have no problem with my iPhone, CP and going back and forth between my car and this device. So far it has connected to both automatically without fail or issue.

Did you try the same experiment with the other iPhones? Were the other iPhones able to go between the cars and this device without issue?

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

same issue

[Tim Thompson]

@Jure-Sirena-0 said in Discussion: Carplay / Android Auto motorcycle device tested:

@Tim-Thompson 1 x iphone 13 pro, 2 x iphone X (in begining of my post I ment I knew why it was happening to mine, because I was able to replicate it on all 3)

same issue

Oh... So you are saying that all 3 iPhones tested had troubles going back and forth between your cars and this device? All 3 phones would connect to your 2 cars without issue, but all 3 phones would fail to connect to the device after being connected to one of your cars?

If I understood that correctly... Don't know what to tell ya. Doesn't matter anyway... You've already made the problem go away... Just not in the way one might prefer.

[Jure Sirena 0]

@Tim-Thompson yes thats it.