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    Flat Twin Therapy
    wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 17:29 last edited by Flat Twin Therapy
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    Yesterday I wanted to use MRA Next Beta for navigating and tracking a tour. Phone was 92% when I left home. Wirelessly charging using the QuadLock charger, which I always use on the bike. It allways charges during the ride, so never drains.

    After 30m I noticed my phone only had 52% left... Rebooted the phone and resumed the tracklog (I love this feature <3). But rebooting didn't help. MRA kept draining the battery. At 45% I stopped navigating with MRA Next, downloaded the .gpx and used a differerent app to navigate.. however I did use MRA Next for track recording... That worked... Battery started to charge again...

    Anybody having the same issue?!

    Google Pixel 6 Pro, Android 13, QuadLock wireless charging on R1200GS.

    Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
    https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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      13 Feb 2023, 17:29

      Yesterday I wanted to use MRA Next Beta for navigating and tracking a tour. Phone was 92% when I left home. Wirelessly charging using the QuadLock charger, which I always use on the bike. It allways charges during the ride, so never drains.

      After 30m I noticed my phone only had 52% left... Rebooted the phone and resumed the tracklog (I love this feature <3). But rebooting didn't help. MRA kept draining the battery. At 45% I stopped navigating with MRA Next, downloaded the .gpx and used a differerent app to navigate.. however I did use MRA Next for track recording... That worked... Battery started to charge again...

      Anybody having the same issue?!

      Google Pixel 6 Pro, Android 13, QuadLock wireless charging on R1200GS.

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      Rob Verhoeff
      wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 17:33 last edited by
      #2

      @Rolf-Aalders Did you use the latest build 3.2.8-151? In that version some issues regarding battery drainage should be resolved!

      BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
      iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
      Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
      Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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      • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
        13 Feb 2023, 17:29

        Yesterday I wanted to use MRA Next Beta for navigating and tracking a tour. Phone was 92% when I left home. Wirelessly charging using the QuadLock charger, which I always use on the bike. It allways charges during the ride, so never drains.

        After 30m I noticed my phone only had 52% left... Rebooted the phone and resumed the tracklog (I love this feature <3). But rebooting didn't help. MRA kept draining the battery. At 45% I stopped navigating with MRA Next, downloaded the .gpx and used a differerent app to navigate.. however I did use MRA Next for track recording... That worked... Battery started to charge again...

        Anybody having the same issue?!

        Google Pixel 6 Pro, Android 13, QuadLock wireless charging on R1200GS.

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        Corjan Meijerink
        administrator
        wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 18:45 last edited by
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        @Rolf-Aalders Happy you love the tracklog recovery feature! 🙂

        Please indeed confirm the app version you are using, we will investigate the issue!

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          13 Feb 2023, 17:33

          @Rolf-Aalders Did you use the latest build 3.2.8-151? In that version some issues regarding battery drainage should be resolved!

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          Flat Twin Therapy
          wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 19:39 last edited by
          #4

          @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks Rob, good to hear it is being worked on.

          No I'm not using 3.2.8-151.
          In the app version number states 3.2.8-150

          How do I update? In the play store no update is available

          Had to go somewhere tonight by car. Phone in a wired charger and normally indeed positive charging. Now, track recording and navigation: 2 crashes and negative charge. When I stopped navigating and kept recording track, positive charging, so issue is reproducable.
          I do know you mentioned latest version might fix battery usage, but still wanted to inform that navigating seems to cause it, not the track recording.

          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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            13 Feb 2023, 19:39

            @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks Rob, good to hear it is being worked on.

            No I'm not using 3.2.8-151.
            In the app version number states 3.2.8-150

            How do I update? In the play store no update is available

            Had to go somewhere tonight by car. Phone in a wired charger and normally indeed positive charging. Now, track recording and navigation: 2 crashes and negative charge. When I stopped navigating and kept recording track, positive charging, so issue is reproducable.
            I do know you mentioned latest version might fix battery usage, but still wanted to inform that navigating seems to cause it, not the track recording.

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            Corjan Meijerink
            administrator
            wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 20:02 last edited by
            #5

            @Rolf-Aalders 3.2.8 is the latest! Android and iOS have a slightly different build number (150 vs 151).

            Reading these messages it indeed has more to do with the navigation rather than the background tracking. We’ll investigate!

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              13 Feb 2023, 20:02

              @Rolf-Aalders 3.2.8 is the latest! Android and iOS have a slightly different build number (150 vs 151).

              Reading these messages it indeed has more to do with the navigation rather than the background tracking. We’ll investigate!

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              Flat Twin Therapy
              wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 20:28 last edited by
              #6

              @Corjan-Meijerink thanks!
              Let me know if you need more info! Happy to help!

              Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
              https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                Mopetenpit
                wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 06:27 last edited by
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                My contribution to the topic "battery charging". I drove a short distance today with the bike and Navigation Next. At the start I had a battery charge of 73%, at the finish was 64%. The route is 3.4 km long and of course only takes a few minutes. Equipment: iPhone 13 pro, iOS version 16.3.

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                  Arno 0
                  wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 07:24 last edited by
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                  Also tested battery drain this morning on my OnePlus 6T with Android 11 and MRA Next 3.2.8-150 installed. A half hour 25 km tour (no tracking) dropped the battery level with 9% without charging.

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                    Corjan Meijerink
                    administrator
                    wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 07:30 last edited by
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                    @Mopetenpit @Arno-0 Now that’s a significant different between you two. I would like to say that the Android experience is more or less reasonable battery consumption. The iOS usage is however more than you would expect.

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                      Jure Sirena 0
                      wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 08:31 last edited by
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                      Its exactly what I experienced. Large baterry draining despite phone on charger (you have my report)

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                        Jure Sirena 0
                        wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 13:43 last edited by
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                        I plan today to do 150km, I will reset all the counters and start with 100% battery and on charger. Will post results

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                          Rob Verhoeff
                          wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 13:56 last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                          #12

                          Today no navigation, but onbly tracking a route by bycicle. Let the screenshots speak for itself.

                          Started tracking at 96% battery capacity. Distance 15km; time 40minutes.
                          IMG_5987.jpeg

                          Halfway, 1% background activity
                          IMG_5988.jpeg

                          After 30km's end of tracking. 90 minutes pause in between two trackings and only 3% use of background activity.
                          IMG_5989.jpeg

                          Batterycondition is 100%.
                          IMG_5990.jpeg

                          Looks good so far. Resumé: tracked with the app for 90 minutes and stood on standby for 90 minutes.

                          iPhone 13
                          iOS 16.3.1
                          App-buid: 3.2.8 - 151

                          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                            14 Feb 2023, 13:56

                            Today no navigation, but onbly tracking a route by bycicle. Let the screenshots speak for itself.

                            Started tracking at 96% battery capacity. Distance 15km; time 40minutes.
                            IMG_5987.jpeg

                            Halfway, 1% background activity
                            IMG_5988.jpeg

                            After 30km's end of tracking. 90 minutes pause in between two trackings and only 3% use of background activity.
                            IMG_5989.jpeg

                            Batterycondition is 100%.
                            IMG_5990.jpeg

                            Looks good so far. Resumé: tracked with the app for 90 minutes and stood on standby for 90 minutes.

                            iPhone 13
                            iOS 16.3.1
                            App-buid: 3.2.8 - 151

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                            Corjan Meijerink
                            administrator
                            wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 15:37 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Rob-Verhoeff That's very decent! Thanks for sharing the information 🙂

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                              Willy DEOM
                              wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 15:54 last edited by
                              #14

                              Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

                              Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
                              Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

                              1° sans alimentation du smartphone
                              Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

                              2° Essai avec alimentation :
                              Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

                              Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

                              Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
                              C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

                              Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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                                14 Feb 2023, 15:54

                                Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

                                Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
                                Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

                                1° sans alimentation du smartphone
                                Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

                                2° Essai avec alimentation :
                                Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

                                Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

                                Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
                                C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

                                Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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                                Corjan Meijerink
                                administrator
                                wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 16:28 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Willy-DEOM Thanks for sharing the feedback and further information. We will continue investigating the issue.

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                                  14 Feb 2023, 15:37

                                  @Rob-Verhoeff That's very decent! Thanks for sharing the information 🙂

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                                  Dave J 0
                                  wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 17:20 last edited by
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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

                                  Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                                  Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                                  iPhone 15 Pro
                                  Chigee AIO-5 Play
                                  Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                                  Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                                    14 Feb 2023, 17:20

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

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                                    Corjan Meijerink
                                    administrator
                                    wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 17:56 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

                                    Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

                                    My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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                                      14 Feb 2023, 17:56

                                      @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

                                      Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

                                      My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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                                      Flat Twin Therapy
                                      wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 21:22 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                                      Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

                                      Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                                      https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                                        14 Feb 2023, 21:22

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink
                                        Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

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                                        Corjan Meijerink
                                        administrator
                                        wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 21:58 last edited by
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                                        @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                                          14 Feb 2023, 21:58

                                          @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                                          wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 22:36 last edited by
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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink here my battery usage today. Used MRA between 7:30 and 9 and 4:30 and 6. My battery doesn’t like cold weather and this morning was ccccolddd (1 degree Celsius and fog). I think this is ok. My phone (iPhone 7) is always on the charger when driving. I do have background location set to “when using app” because I noticed several crashes when not even using MRA and quite some battery usage. 497DC53A-C653-4462-8CA4-303DD2ABD150.png

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