Some help from the Welsh members of MRA.
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Hi All,
I am going to Wales for the first time on the 20th July 2021 staying in the Elan Valley for 3 nights.
I have made all 3 routes Public so any local knowledge would be much appreciatedDay 1 I plan to travel to Wales and take in the Brecon Beacons on the way then travel up to my Hotel in the Elan Valley.
311 Miles 6h 31mhttps://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4864570?mode=share
Day 2 I have plotted a route in the Cambrian Mountains.
In particular I have a some questions about Waypoints 1 and 6 due to the height.
What are the chances of their being ice on those parts at this time of year?
I’m going on my Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro on the Stock tyres not proper nobblies
136 Miles 5h 36mhttps://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4869947?mode=share
Day 3 Is the Snowdonia 360 Route from either MCN or Ride Magazine, I can’t remember which?
328 Miles 9h 11mhttps://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4865168?mode=share
That leaves a full day so any advice on must see places from locals or anyone who has been to Wales would be greatly appreciated.
Happy to do a 12+ hour day on the bike.Thanks in advance.
@Steve-Lynch Initially, on looking at your first route, I thought to make a few suggestions, but looking at the others as well, I decided that you’re a bit of a ‘goat track’ man, and if you want to subject yourself to that road past Pontsticill and Talybont reservoirs you go right ahead!
So I’ll just make one suggestion…
From Abergavenny, rather than use the A40, try this:
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4873679?mode=share
Oh, and one other thing… The A55 along the north coast absolutely sucks! If you can justify it time wise, my suggestion is that, if you must visit Llandudno, you head back to Betws y Coed and take the A5 through Snowdonia to get to Anglesey. It’s a superb run right through the middle of the Carneddau and Glyderau ranges.
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@Steve-Lynch Initially, on looking at your first route, I thought to make a few suggestions, but looking at the others as well, I decided that you’re a bit of a ‘goat track’ man, and if you want to subject yourself to that road past Pontsticill and Talybont reservoirs you go right ahead!
So I’ll just make one suggestion…
From Abergavenny, rather than use the A40, try this:
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4873679?mode=share
Oh, and one other thing… The A55 along the north coast absolutely sucks! If you can justify it time wise, my suggestion is that, if you must visit Llandudno, you head back to Betws y Coed and take the A5 through Snowdonia to get to Anglesey. It’s a superb run right through the middle of the Carneddau and Glyderau ranges.
Thanks PAD-0 I’ve got your route and will amend it into mine.
Regarding the A55 etc, I’m wondering whether the full Snowdonia 360 Route is worth the effort?
I’m leaning towards completely replacing it with Nick’s Devils Bridge to Nant Peris route and finding a scenic “Goat Track” route to the north and then back to my hotel in the Elan Valley. -
The 360 is a mixed bag - inevitably plenty of good stuff (it’s in Wales), but I can’t help thinking it wasn’t entirely produced by motorcyclists!
Here’s a link to Welsh roads that I consider ‘must ride’ routes. As I’ve had to string a boat load together, you’ll have to take account of the fact that there are a few ‘transfer’ sections that are merely linking the good stuff together (but very little really), and a bit near Brecon that loops over Llangorse - it’s pleasant enough, but keeps you off a boring bit of A40 dual carriageway.
It stops where it stops so you can say you’ve been to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantisilliogogogoch.
Please bear in mind that I’m more a reprobate scratcher than a goat track man, so there’s plenty of that stuff left to consider. Also, my suggestions are not exhaustive or intended to be definitive. There’s some lovely stuff around Builth Wells for instance. In fact, I don’t really want other people to use them, so keep ‘em under your hat, eh?
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4874956?mode=share
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The 360 is a mixed bag - inevitably plenty of good stuff (it’s in Wales), but I can’t help thinking it wasn’t entirely produced by motorcyclists!
Here’s a link to Welsh roads that I consider ‘must ride’ routes. As I’ve had to string a boat load together, you’ll have to take account of the fact that there are a few ‘transfer’ sections that are merely linking the good stuff together (but very little really), and a bit near Brecon that loops over Llangorse - it’s pleasant enough, but keeps you off a boring bit of A40 dual carriageway.
It stops where it stops so you can say you’ve been to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantisilliogogogoch.
Please bear in mind that I’m more a reprobate scratcher than a goat track man, so there’s plenty of that stuff left to consider. Also, my suggestions are not exhaustive or intended to be definitive. There’s some lovely stuff around Builth Wells for instance. In fact, I don’t really want other people to use them, so keep ‘em under your hat, eh?
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/4874956?mode=share
Thank you so much.
I will take your word for it and run your route exactly as is instead of the 360.
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Thank you so much.
I will take your word for it and run your route exactly as is instead of the 360. -
@Steve-Lynch I didn't anticipate that! You’ll be knackered by the end of the day!
Why not! None of it is long, dull and boring stretches and, on the assumption that you will split it, it would make for a very interesting couple of days.
Yes I will split it obviously.
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Thank you so much.
I will take your word for it and run your route exactly as is instead of the 360.@Steve-Lynch Do you know about the secret
shhh East German village built for practicing urban warfare?
It’s off of the military road (sometimes closed for live firing) between Trecastle and Tirabad pink RP 28.I made a video of some of this route over the Brecon Beacons the military road starts at 9:50 in the video.
Nick’s vidAlways willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8 -
@Steve-Lynch Do you know about the secret
shhh East German village built for practicing urban warfare?
It’s off of the military road (sometimes closed for live firing) between Trecastle and Tirabad pink RP 28.I made a video of some of this route over the Brecon Beacons the military road starts at 9:50 in the video.
Nick’s vidI think I am going to need more days.
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For such a small area, at just a bit over 1/4 of the area of Scotland, Wales punches well above its weight in terms of its number of excellent biking roads (as does Scotland too, of course). I’m very fortunate to live right on its doorstep.
@PAD-0 I can reach Abergavenny in 2 1/2 hours and I’m also fortunate enough to be between Exmoor and Dartmoor.
Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8 -
@PAD-0 I can reach Abergavenny in 2 1/2 hours and I’m also fortunate enough to be between Exmoor and Dartmoor.
@Nick-Carthew I’ve never explored Devon and Cornwall on a bike, but North Devon looks like it has some interesting roads. I have visited the area, and thought the coast around Hartland was incredible. I must make the effort.
I used to feel fortunate in living about 1.5 hours from the Peak District as well as being so close to all those Welsh roads, and I still am really, but it gets more congested and over regulated by the year. I generally only visit on week days out of peak-season now.
Thankfully, the Welsh Marches are still very quiet and have some cracking roads hidden away.🤫
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@Nick-Carthew I’ve never explored Devon and Cornwall on a bike, but North Devon looks like it has some interesting roads. I have visited the area, and thought the coast around Hartland was incredible. I must make the effort.
I used to feel fortunate in living about 1.5 hours from the Peak District as well as being so close to all those Welsh roads, and I still am really, but it gets more congested and over regulated by the year. I generally only visit on week days out of peak-season now.
Thankfully, the Welsh Marches are still very quiet and have some cracking roads hidden away.🤫
I did a full coastal route of Devon and Cornwall a couple of years ago, entering via Minehead to pick up Porlock Hill, Lynmouth and Lynton. Fantastic scenery here.
Seek out a place they call “Little Switzerland” near Martinhoe on a road called Sir Robert’s Path.All routes below.
Look out for the roads I call “Stab Outs” that you will see all across all my routes.
They are a single road that take you to isolated Coves, Marinas and fantastic view points.This was a “spider” tour and we stayed at the Pentire Hotel.
Day 1
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1745496?mode=share
Day 2
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1745496?mode=share
Day 3
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1754667?mode=share
Day 4
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1777275?mode=share
Day 5 Homeward
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1777371?mode=share
You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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I did a full coastal route of Devon and Cornwall a couple of years ago, entering via Minehead to pick up Porlock Hill, Lynmouth and Lynton. Fantastic scenery here.
Seek out a place they call “Little Switzerland” near Martinhoe on a road called Sir Robert’s Path.All routes below.
Look out for the roads I call “Stab Outs” that you will see all across all my routes.
They are a single road that take you to isolated Coves, Marinas and fantastic view points.This was a “spider” tour and we stayed at the Pentire Hotel.
Day 1
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1745496?mode=share
Day 2
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1745496?mode=share
Day 3
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1754667?mode=share
Day 4
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1777275?mode=share
Day 5 Homeward
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/1777371?mode=share
@Steve-Lynch We use Sir Robert’s Path annually as part of what’s known as ‘The Legendary Grand Tour’ where 250 minis tour North Devon for a charity event and we either marshal or collect money from the crowd lined roads for the Children’s Hospice South West. We’re looking forward to its return this year after Covid. August bank holiday weekend isn’t the same without it.
Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8 -
@Steve-Lynch We use Sir Robert’s Path annually as part of what’s known as ‘The Legendary Grand Tour’ where 250 minis tour North Devon for a charity event and we either marshal or collect money from the crowd lined roads for the Children’s Hospice South West. We’re looking forward to its return this year after Covid. August bank holiday weekend isn’t the same without it.
That’s awesome Nick.
I also saw the leg antics on your Miltary Road vid.You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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That’s awesome Nick.
I also saw the leg antics on your Miltary Road vid.@Steve-Lynch said in Some help from the Welsh members of MRA.:
That’s awesome Nick.
I also saw the leg antics on your Miltary Road vid.I can’t be held responsible for my wife and wingman
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