Anyone tried Ridernav R7M with MRA via AA yet?

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Lenny-O All the pros and cons of AA and CP have now been set out here in sufficient detail.

Perhaps you should broaden your horizons a little in your search for a new device and find out whether a 7-inch tablet might be the better choice.

It offers the screen view you’re used to, with none of the limitations of AA or CP; it offers unbeatable brightness and can be operated using various controllers.

Yes, all that does, of course, cost a bit more than a device that simply reflects, but it leaves nothing to be desired

DMD-NOR7E GPS Navigation Tablet powered by Android https://share.google/iNnI6e1M6ppbT5yiC

Motorcycle GPS Navigation Kit | Caretta | 7" Adventure GPS https://share.google/GQvgCAMUf2BTj81Y0

I’ve had the NOR7E for two weeks now, and I’m wondering why I didn’t go down this route sooner.

[M. Schrijver]

Did you consider the Caretta? Just a neutral question.
Want to use the Caretta for the next bike but it look the Nor7E is also very intresting. Both has gone their own way which causes differences.

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@M.-Schrijver Yes, of course… a friend of mine has one…
He opted for the Caretta because he wants to be able to zoom with the Wonderwheel.

I, on the other hand, already have the Silverfox C1, so I went for the NOR7E.

The Caretta is much bulkier and the mount is quite heavy-duty.

And the NOR7E comes with a full licence for the DMD software – that was another reason I chose it.

I wouldn’t be without it now ️

[PieterG]

@Lenny-O said:

@PieterG Thanks again, Pieter!
My set up today is MRA Planner, MRA Nav App route xfer to Zumo XT via Garmin Drive.
I have been running the MRA NAV in parallel to the Zumo XT for about 2000 miles now.
I must say that MRA NAV performed quite admirably and 95% of discrepancies were caused by the user error (me) or misunderstanding / lack of in depth understanding of the features and settings.
So, I am quite comfortable and confident with the MRA NAV and that's why I just wanted to get a larger and brighter unit.
As far as navigating with MRA when the Internet is not available - this is no issue at all, really!
As of today, as long as your routes are Synchronized - they are available for off-line navigation, provided you have downloaded the maps you need to run the routes.
You don't even need the Internet to kick-off the route, like it was before in the prior releases, just be Synched.
I love the new features of running a route as a track for one, it's amazing!
So, I am a big fan and supporter of MRA and really love the fact that it is a living-thing, developing and evolving unlike others that are stagnant or deprecated by now....

I think I will stick to my current setup for now and see what developes in the near future
Thank you for your thoughts!!!

Hi Lenny,

I think MRA will work excellently on a tablet. (then you won't be bothered by all the AA/AC limitations and freezes)

Regarding navigation without an internet connection: I have tested this extensively. Naturally, with the latest updates, maps downloaded, MRA in offline mode, phone equipped with the latest firmware, etc. etc., and the data connection on my phone, and thus the Internet, was also disabled.
I can assure you that I received notifications many times from the MRA app itself (!) that it could not reach the server, as well as other error messages indicating that the connection was missing. The most annoying part: navigation did not work until I reactivated the data/Internet connection.
I was able to reproduce this problem multiple times, after first rebooting all equipment, so it was a thorough test.
This is what happened to me for days on end. God only knows what caused it...
(for the record: I haven't experienced these problems with other apps, so hardware and/or configuration errors can be excluded)

Additionally, if you are in an MRA group and a shared route has been created within that group and you need to reload that route (like what happened to me when the MRA app crashed in conjunction with AA/AC for the umpteenth time), then MRA obviously doesn't see the group without an internet connection, with the result that you don't see the group routes either.
So if you are riding in the mountains and have no connection, it's game over for your ride. You therefore have to download those group routes in advance. That is possible, but it takes some searching to figure out how to do it and where the file is located. (but then again, you do run the risk, for example during a multi-day trip, of not having the latest version on your phone if the group administrator has made a last-minute change to the route...)

Good luck finding a suitable solution for yourself!

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@PieterG said:

God only knows what caused it...
(for the record: I haven't experienced these problems with other apps, so hardware and/or configuration errors can be excluded)

I'm sorry you've encountered these problems......

But God has nothing to do with it.... The problem stems from a lack of user knowledge and, as a result, incorrect usage.

Offline navigation works perfectly, just as Lenny described.

The fact that you haven't had any problems with other apps doesn't mean MRA is to blame if you've encountered issues.
Every app has its own quirks and settings, but if those aren’t set correctly or if mistakes were made while using the app, you shouldn’t blame the app itself.

Please don’t get me wrong… even with MRA, not everything is perfect, but your description shows me that user errors were definitely made.

[M. Schrijver]

Every app has indeed their own quirks. But to my opnion. MRA must be used in a smaller bandwith to get to work correct. There is less room for user errors for the app to handle.
Other apps can handle user error better without giving problems.

[PieterG]

@Peter-Zehentreiter said:

@PieterG said:

God only knows what caused it...
(for the record: I haven't experienced these problems with other apps, so hardware and/or configuration errors can be excluded)

I'm sorry you've encountered these problems......

But God has nothing to do with it.... The problem stems from a lack of user knowledge and, as a result, incorrect usage.

Offline navigation works perfectly, just as Lenny described.

The fact that you haven't had any problems with other apps doesn't mean MRA is to blame if you've encountered issues.
Every app has its own quirks and settings, but if those aren’t set correctly or if mistakes were made while using the app, you shouldn’t blame the app itself.

Please don’t get me wrong… even with MRA, not everything is perfect, but your description shows me that user errors were definitely made.

Hi Peter,

I believe I only described my experiences, right?
Somewhere earlier I also wrote that I think MRA should have a 'simple mode' button (or 'Kurviger mode' ) for impatient suckers like me. So that the chance of user errors fatal to your route is reduced to a rock-solid app. You don't have to agree with me, no problem. But this is my conviction.

And regarding the question of whether or not God has anything to do with this: that just depends on what you believe, doesn't it? If it wasn't God, then is must be the devil

[Ed Lauwerens 0]

OK, I promised feedback on using the RiderNav R7M on a 8.500 km trip to Noordkaap last June 2026. I drive a BMW R1300GSA and use the R7M with Apple CarPlay. My iPhone, on which I run the MRA app, is in my top case, connected to USB power.
Overall, I am very pleased with the R7M. The screen is very clear and big, it has a touch screen function which is very convenient and works much faster than using the WonderWheel.
First, I had stuff to learn about the MRA app. I found that on remote places, the MRA screen would go blanc (buttons were there, no map however). I learned that I had to download the maps of the countries where I rode and put the app on off-line, than all went well from there on. The R7M experience. First of all, there was always good CarPlay connection - just start the bike and after a jew seconds, the MRA screen would pop up. Switching to Apple Music for starting music en switching back to MRA, just by touching the screen, perfect. During 4 weeks of riding, it happened 3 times that while riding, the R7M just restarted. Screen goes black and starts up again. You don't have to do anything, it comes back on immediately itself. Not a real issue, but I mention it anyway. What happened more often, is that the connection with the WonderWheel stopped. Restarting does reconnect the connection, but not nice. It happened once every 2 days of riding. In the end it was no issue for me, because using the Wonderwheel to navigate the buttons in CarPlay is a hassle. I found out that using the touch screen is soooo much easier, I never uses the Wonderwheel anyway. So, overall I am very happy and do recommend the R7M/Carplay/MRA combination to all BMW drives. A great screen for a very competitive price in my opinion.

[PieterG]

@M.-Schrijver said:

Every app has indeed their own quirks. But to my opnion. MRA must be used in a smaller bandwith to get to work correct. There is less room for user errors for the app to handle.
Other apps can handle user error better without giving problems.

Exactly my point.
Let’s just say that is why I personally am not a good match for MRA. (though I am with a range of other navigation apps, that’s for sure ) Simply because I don't want complexity when I'm out on the road and want to focus on the experience of the ride, instead of navigation support that keeps pulling me over because I’ve probably done something wrong again.

However, the fact that my setup crashes 6 to 8 times a day makes it unusable for me (for me, that is).

I don't experience these crash issues with other apps, so that is where my driving pleasure lies.

[PieterG]

@Ed-Lauwerens-0

Wow, great story!

Unfortunate for you that the Ridernav R7M malfunctioned a few times. (To date, 3000km, I haven't had these problems)

I completely agree with your conclusion, the Ridernav R7M is the best you can buy for the price

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