Anyone tried Ridernav R7M with MRA via AA yet?
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@PieterG Thank you for this, as the carplay area is totally new to me. I use Garmin for years, but now want to run the MRA Nav, because I di believe that it it the best and has grteat future to get even better!
So may I ask you ( or anyone else) to tell me the 2 top carplay options to run MRA NAV (as in the best / closest screen layout with the least screen functionality lost, while having a bright and readable screen, and work with the Wonder Wheel) in 2 scenarious:
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Cost is no factor:
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Staying on the reasonable budget (sort of like R7M).
A?
B?
Thank you!
@Lenny-O
I used to use TomTom Rider long time ago and after that a BMW Navigator IV(=Garmin-ish) for many years. But the BMW Nav's all get the same 'ghosting' problem after a few years and they become unusable.
(Repair costs 150 Euro every time) This is why I started my search for a follow-up solution and I ran into the same things as you are now
I started testing all kinds of models and brands of Smart Displays with MRA, Google Maps, Sygic, Waze, Calimoto, Stegra .io and Kurviger using both Android Auto and Apple Carplay on several Android phones and iPhones.
My opinion: all AA and AC implementations are still premature today (missing functions, etc.) and most nav apps are ok, but I'm the most unhappy with MRA app due to crashes (6-8 times a day, complexity and a very high risk of incorrect settings or operation due to the unintuitive GUI and too many (unclear or fatal) options. (The MRA app should have a “Simple Mode” button to put it into ' Kurviger mode' to make it rock solid usable!
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Also, most important, with MRA you can NOT ride seamlessly through mountainous areas without an internet connection! (If you turn of data on your phone, MRA will not be able to do what you need..)If the aviation industry used software like this, all the planes would fall out of the sky!
But hey, this is just my opinion after 3,000 km of testing the MRA app....The MRA route planner website is very good though, once you get used to it.
After all of this, I’m happiest with Kurviger: simple, stable, everything you need right at your fingertips without having to search for it. The only thing you should always do when riding a turn-by-turn route, in my opinion, is turn off automatic recalculation. Do that, and it works rock-solid like a charm!
And with Kurviger you can ride seamlessly through mountainous areas when the Internet connection fails!I use Kurviger app with both Android Auto and CarPlay. With CarPlay, the buttons are positioned on the left side of the Smart Screen, while with Android Auto they are at the bottom, which unfortunately wastes valuable screen space. So I prefer Carplay but Android Auto is also fine.
There is no way at all you can get an exact copy of any of the phone app-views on a smart display. The AA/AC layer is simply preventing that. (for all apps)
Options with Wonderwheel support:
1.A Chigee aio 6
1.B Chigee aio 5
2.A Ridernav R7M.
2.B. ...... none
2.C to Z. See Youtube and look for channel 'Smart Riding Gadgets' for all kind of tests (keep in mind that you are only interested in the models with Wonderwheel support) -
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@Lenny-O
I used to use TomTom Rider long time ago and after that a BMW Navigator IV(=Garmin-ish) for many years. But the BMW Nav's all get the same 'ghosting' problem after a few years and they become unusable.
(Repair costs 150 Euro every time) This is why I started my search for a follow-up solution and I ran into the same things as you are nowI started testing all kinds of models and brands of Smart Displays with MRA, Google Maps, Sygic, Waze, Calimoto, Stegra .io and Kurviger using both Android Auto and Apple Carplay on several Android phones and iPhones.
My opinion: all AA and AC implementations are still premature today (missing functions, etc.) and most nav apps are ok, but I'm the most unhappy with MRA app due to crashes (6-8 times a day, complexity and a very high risk of incorrect settings or operation due to the unintuitive GUI and too many (unclear or fatal) options. (The MRA app should have a “Simple Mode” button to put it into ' Kurviger mode' to make it rock solid usable!
).
Also, most important, with MRA you can NOT ride seamlessly through mountainous areas without an internet connection! (If you turn of data on your phone, MRA will not be able to do what you need..)If the aviation industry used software like this, all the planes would fall out of the sky!
But hey, this is just my opinion after 3,000 km of testing the MRA app....The MRA route planner website is very good though, once you get used to it.
After all of this, I’m happiest with Kurviger: simple, stable, everything you need right at your fingertips without having to search for it. The only thing you should always do when riding a turn-by-turn route, in my opinion, is turn off automatic recalculation. Do that, and it works rock-solid like a charm!
And with Kurviger you can ride seamlessly through mountainous areas when the Internet connection fails!I use Kurviger app with both Android Auto and CarPlay. With CarPlay, the buttons are positioned on the left side of the Smart Screen, while with Android Auto they are at the bottom, which unfortunately wastes valuable screen space. So I prefer Carplay but Android Auto is also fine.
There is no way at all you can get an exact copy of any of the phone app-views on a smart display. The AA/AC layer is simply preventing that. (for all apps)
Options with Wonderwheel support:
1.A Chigee aio 6
1.B Chigee aio 5
2.A Ridernav R7M.
2.B. ...... none
2.C to Z. See Youtube and look for channel 'Smart Riding Gadgets' for all kind of tests (keep in mind that you are only interested in the models with Wonderwheel support)@PieterG Thanks again, Pieter!
My set up today is MRA Planner, MRA Nav App route xfer to Zumo XT via Garmin Drive.
I have been running the MRA NAV in parallel to the Zumo XT for about 2000 miles now.
I must say that MRA NAV performed quite admirably and 95% of discrepancies were caused by the user error (me) or misunderstanding / lack of in depth understanding of the features and settings.
So, I am quite comfortable and confident with the MRA NAV and that's why I just wanted to get a larger and brighter unit.
As far as navigating with MRA when the Internet is not available - this is no issue at all, really!
As of today, as long as your routes are Synchronized - they are available for off-line navigation, provided you have downloaded the maps you need to run the routes.
You don't even need the Internet to kick-off the route, like it was before in the prior releases, just be Synched.
I love the new features of running a route as a track for one, it's amazing!
So, I am a big fan and supporter of MRA and really love the fact that it is a living-thing, developing and evolving unlike others that are stagnant or deprecated by now....I think I will stick to my current setup for now and see what developes in the near future
Thank you for your thoughts!!! -
@PieterG Thank you for this, as the carplay area is totally new to me. I use Garmin for years, but now want to run the MRA Nav, because I di believe that it it the best and has grteat future to get even better!
So may I ask you ( or anyone else) to tell me the 2 top carplay options to run MRA NAV (as in the best / closest screen layout with the least screen functionality lost, while having a bright and readable screen, and work with the Wonder Wheel) in 2 scenarious:
-
Cost is no factor:
A?
B? -
Staying on the reasonable budget (sort of like R7M).
A?
B?
Thank you!
@Lenny-O All the pros and cons of AA and CP have now been set out here in sufficient detail.
Perhaps you should broaden your horizons a little in your search for a new device and find out whether a 7-inch tablet might be the better choice.
It offers the screen view you’re used to, with none of the limitations of AA or CP; it offers unbeatable brightness and can be operated using various controllers.
Yes, all that does, of course, cost a bit more than a device that simply reflects, but it leaves nothing to be desired
DMD-NOR7E GPS Navigation Tablet powered by Android https://share.google/iNnI6e1M6ppbT5yiC
Motorcycle GPS Navigation Kit | Caretta | 7" Adventure GPS https://share.google/GQvgCAMUf2BTj81Y0
I’ve had the NOR7E for two weeks now, and I’m wondering why I didn’t go down this route sooner.
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Did you consider the Caretta? Just a neutral question.
Want to use the Caretta for the next bike but it look the Nor7E is also very intresting. Both has gone their own way which causes differences.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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Did you consider the Caretta? Just a neutral question.
Want to use the Caretta for the next bike but it look the Nor7E is also very intresting. Both has gone their own way which causes differences.@M.-Schrijver Yes, of course… a friend of mine has one…
He opted for the Caretta because he wants to be able to zoom with the Wonderwheel.I, on the other hand, already have the Silverfox C1, so I went for the NOR7E.
The Caretta is much bulkier and the mount is quite heavy-duty.
And the NOR7E comes with a full licence for the DMD software – that was another reason I chose it.
I wouldn’t be without it now
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