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  • Bouke Ent Offline
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    #17

    fot me i am not happy because of 2... if it would 3 no problems. but this is what it is, 3 means in my case only 2 max activated. me and my partner. for backup i have to do special method when only offline.

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    • Bouke Ent Bouke Ent

      fot me i am not happy because of 2... if it would 3 no problems. but this is what it is, 3 means in my case only 2 max activated. me and my partner. for backup i have to do special method when only offline.

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      wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
      #18

      @Bouke-Ent I don’t see the problem! With your current subscription you always have access to three devices. What are the chances that one of them stops working while you’re on the road? Negligible. And if you do need that third one, all you have to do is click the red “exit” icon next to one of the other two devices. Problem solved. And of course you’re free to buy an extra licence—then you definitely won’t have any issues at all!

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      • Rob Verhoeff Rob Verhoeff

        @Bouke-Ent I don’t see the problem! With your current subscription you always have access to three devices. What are the chances that one of them stops working while you’re on the road? Negligible. And if you do need that third one, all you have to do is click the red “exit” icon next to one of the other two devices. Problem solved. And of course you’re free to buy an extra licence—then you definitely won’t have any issues at all!

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        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        @Rob-Verhoeff it is good for you that you do not see the problem.... please explane how to have always acces to three devices if offline? please explane,,,,, i have a option and spoken it with support so it can work but it is a work arround.

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        • Corjan Meijerink Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #20

          Please have the discussion privately or in another topic 🙂

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          • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

            Hi all! 👋

            Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

            Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

            Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

            We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

            Cheers,
            Corjan

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            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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            • Reinhard Punz Reinhard Punz

              @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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              wrote on last edited by Lluis Arasanz
              #22

              @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

              If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

              No all people here knows Dutch or German.

              Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

              Regards.

              Lluis Arasanz

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              • Lluis Arasanz Lluis Arasanz

                @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

                If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

                No all people here knows Dutch or German.

                Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

                Regards.

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                • Reinhard Punz Reinhard Punz

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                  Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden.

                  That already is exactly how it works...
                  No change necessary.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Lluis Arasanz Lluis Arasanz

                    @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

                    If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

                    No all people here knows Dutch or German.

                    Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

                    Regards.

                    Reinhard Punz Offline
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                    Reinhard Punz
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                      @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                      Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden.

                      That already is exactly how it works...
                      No change necessary.

                      Reinhard Punz Offline
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                      Reinhard Punz
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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                      • Reinhard Punz Reinhard Punz

                        @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                        @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

                        Perfect, thank you for using translation 👍

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                        • Reinhard Punz Reinhard Punz

                          @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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                          wrote on last edited by Adrian Avram
                          #28

                          @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                          I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

                          If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

                          Best regards,
                          Adrian

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                          • Adrian Avram Adrian Avram

                            @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                            I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

                            If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            Thanks for the information. It's still a shame, though, and I hope the MyRouteApp developers reconsider this strategy. I understand the reasoning behind it and support it. However, if the costs are indeed incurred due to the number of simultaneous map system uses, it shouldn't matter how many devices I use the app on, as long as it's not done at the same time.

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                            • Con Hennekens Online
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                              because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                              As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                                I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                                  Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                                  I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                                  Con Hennekens Online
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  @M.-Schrijver, yes: profile icon top right, scroll down, second option from below: My Devices.

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                  • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                                    Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                                    I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

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                                    #33

                                    @M.-Schrijver said in Statement about device limit:

                                    So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                                    You will only be able to see the two active device. If you log on to the third, you will be asked to logoff one of the two available.

                                    Screenshot_20260227_164543.png

                                    Best regards,
                                    Adrian

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                                    MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                                    Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                      @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                                      because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                                      As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      @Con-Hennekens said in Statement about device limit:

                                      @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                                      because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                                      As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

                                      Thank you, I hadn't actually noticed that. It doesn't make the situation any more pleasant, but at least it's understandable.

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                                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                                        Hi all! 👋

                                        Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

                                        Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

                                        Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

                                        We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

                                        Cheers,
                                        Corjan

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                                        @Corjan-MeijerinExactl This happened in about 2015 on SkyDemon flight planning and moving map program for the same reason users were letting multiple people log on with their details costing the company many many pounds. That was pure theft.

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                                        • Reinhard Punz Reinhard Punz

                                          @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                                          @Reinhard-Punz

                                          Thanks a lot for you try. I appreciate your effort.

                                          My English is bad, I know, so I have to use also translate programs.

                                          Regards,

                                          Lluis Arasanz

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