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  • Marco Straniundefined Marco Strani

    @Lex.Kloet.RX why do navigation apps notify speedcam?

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    @Marco-Strani I use neither, because in Germany (where I live) it is not permitted and I am used to ride without any warning. So, I drive in any vehicle (cabrio, camper, motorcycle) according to what the road signs indicate. They are there with a purpose.

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    • Marco Straniundefined Marco Strani

      @Con-Hennekens said in Safety Tutor:

      @Marco-Strani, I suspect you are talking about trajectory speed control?

      I'm talking about a a fairly common system on highways in Italy based on calculating the average speed over a stretch of road of a few kilometers. If the calculated average speed is higher than the limit, you'll be fined.

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      @Marco-Strani said in Safety Tutor:

      I'm talking about a a fairly common system on highways in Italy based on calculating the average speed over a stretch of road of a few kilometers. If the calculated average speed is higher than the limit, you'll be fined.

      Yeah, that's called trajectory speed cam. As far as I know they are mentioned in the app, as far as they are known in the HERE map data.

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      • Marco Straniundefined Marco Strani

        @Con-Hennekens said in Safety Tutor:

        @Marco-Strani, I suspect you are talking about trajectory speed control?

        I'm talking about a a fairly common system on highways in Italy based on calculating the average speed over a stretch of road of a few kilometers. If the calculated average speed is higher than the limit, you'll be fined.

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        @Marco-Strani

        I was in the Czech Republic a few months ago, where the tutor system (or something similar?) is also used, and I received a warning about it in MRA.
        So it's quite possible that you'll receive these warnings in Italy too.

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          thanks Martin, did you receive a warning only when entering the monitored section or during the whole section, or were you warned also when exiting it?

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          • Marco Straniundefined Marco Strani

            thanks Martin, did you receive a warning only when entering the monitored section or during the whole section, or were you warned also when exiting it?

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            @Marco-Strani

            If I remember correctly, there was a warning at the beginning of the section and then a display during the section (remaining distance) and the measured average speed. But I'm not entirely sure anymore. Can't you just try it out?

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              Hi Marco, with the MRA Navigation app you can be alerted about your speed compared to the speed limit, and you can also get warnings about speed cameras. However, the app doesn’t provide notifications for average speed check systems (tutors) — especially the new ones recently installed on some Italian highways.
              Currently, only a few navigation apps warn you when you enter a tutor zone, but they offer far fewer navigation features overall. So, it’s better to stay cautious — driving a bit slower lets you enjoy the trip and the scenery much more.

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              • Alex redsundefined Alex reds

                Hi Marco, with the MRA Navigation app you can be alerted about your speed compared to the speed limit, and you can also get warnings about speed cameras. However, the app doesn’t provide notifications for average speed check systems (tutors) — especially the new ones recently installed on some Italian highways.
                Currently, only a few navigation apps warn you when you enter a tutor zone, but they offer far fewer navigation features overall. So, it’s better to stay cautious — driving a bit slower lets you enjoy the trip and the scenery much more.

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                @Alex-reds The app does warn you when you are in an ‘Average speed zone’.

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                  In Norway, the warning system has always worked very well!

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                    I remember several occasions in Italy, when I was warned about Tutor zones. As often, Here map quality is the "issue". If nobody notifies about speed traps, etc., it won´t be available in map data.

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                      thanks, I will check at the first opportunity

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                        Yesterday I had the chance to check how the app behaves in this case.
                        When approaching a Tutor zone, the app informs about it starting from 300 meters then, when entering the zone, a message similar to "Average speed check" stays on the screen (you can close it). Finally, when approaching the end of the zone, it informs starting from 800 meters, and decrementing the distance until the end, with a message similar to "Average speed check for XXX meters". The popup does not close automatically once you exit the zone and needs to be explicitly closed.
                        While this is positively answering my initial question, I think that it would be better to inform earlier the start than the end of the zones: I'm generally not interested in driving faster than allowed but in being sure I am not doing it expecially when I am monitored

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                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                          @Alex-reds The app does warn you when you are in an ‘Average speed zone’.

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                          @Nick-Carthew said in Safety Tutor:

                          @Alex-reds The app does warn you when you are in an ‘Average speed zone’.

                          Being very pedantic:
                          The app does warn you when it has the data to know you are in an ‘Average speed zone’.

                          It's very useful, but it can be out of date, have errors, etc, and it's up to you to keep your eyes peeled and ride to the road signs.

                          Cameras are unforgiving. Except in the UK where you have a 10% + 1 mph leeway (as of right now - Nov 2025):

                          https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2024/april-2024/speed-cameras-thresholds/

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