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[Cookie On Tour]

@Nick-Carthew I agree, but as said most of the time for any pure navigation software or device, when it is used as ad-hoc navigation - not being in the position to plan the route, the outcome should be more consistent and reliable.
While planning, sure I can add waypoints, however, this only makes sense if you know the area and the best route. Shouldn't a smart navigation system do this for you?

[BertM]

@Cookie-On-Tour said in Route Here Map:

@Nick-Carthew I agree, but as said most of the time for any pure navigation software or device, when it is used as ad-hoc navigation - not being in the position to plan the route, the outcome should be more consistent and reliable.
While planning, sure I can add waypoints, however, this only makes sense if you know the area and the best route. Shouldn't a smart navigation system do this for you?

I fully agree!
Just for A to B MRA is acting strange:
The last time I used it directed me over the Schiphol airport roads thrue the arrivals and then back to the same highway... WTF??

[Travellexxie]

People call that sightseeing

[Cookie On Tour]

@BertM said in Route Here Map:

@Cookie-On-Tour said in Route Here Map:

@Nick-Carthew I agree, but as said most of the time for any pure navigation software or device, when it is used as ad-hoc navigation - not being in the position to plan the route, the outcome should be more consistent and reliable.
While planning, sure I can add waypoints, however, this only makes sense if you know the area and the best route. Shouldn't a smart navigation system do this for you?

I fully agree!
Just for A to B MRA is acting strange:
The last time I used it directed me over the Schiphol airport roads thrue the arrivals and then back to the same highway... WTF??

Well the TomTom was not better as I tested it

[Brian McG]

these navigation devices are nothing but statistical engines, for the same input parameters will give give the same output, there is no chaos theory involved in how they calculate routes
if you are getting different outputs then there must be a different input,
this could be something like traffic because we all know we want consistent routes but also want to avoid traffic which blows your consistency out of the water
or it could just be something as simple as the time of day, one route might be faster at 9am than another route at 9:05

[BertM]

@Brian-McG
It is not a different input when going from A to B, it is just one simple thing:
I am at point A and want to point B.
If the program routes me off the Highway and put me back on the same Highway at the same junction that cannot be the fasted route.

[Con Hennekens]

@BertM, actually, depending on the routing engine, in the Netherlands it can

Since in the Netherlands max speed on highways is 130kph but during daytime limited to 100 with signs, it can happen that on highway entrances the 100 sign is somewhere in the distance, making it lawful from the entrance to the first 100 sign the max speed is 130 during daytime. Not all highway entrances immediately have a 100kph sign, making the detour faster than staying in the highway (in theory).

[Cookie On Tour]

When I shift the starting point as far as I can down the route OSM and TomTom takes and switch the setting to "shortest" Here still routes "his" way

Shortest distance: Here 3.98km vs. 2.37 OSM/TomTom

Here is very bad a math!

[BertM]

@Con-Hennekens said in Route Here Map:

@BertM, actually, depending on the routing engine, in the Netherlands it can

Since in the Netherlands max speed on highways is 130kph but during daytime limited to 100 with signs, it can happen that on highway entrances the 100 sign is somewhere in the distance, making it lawful from the entrance to the first 100 sign the max speed is 130 during daytime. Not all highway entrances immediately have a 100kph sign, making the detour faster than staying in the highway (in theory).

have you ever driven through the arrival section of an airport at 100 km/h???
Try i sometime @ Schiphol
Nice theory, but I do not believe this is the issue

[Con Hennekens]

@BertM, I was not implying that this is your issue, but rather posting an anecdote about leaving a highway being theoretically faster, and proving this can be an issue navigation software.