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  • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

    @KevN1k-0 I think you misunderstand 😂
    the app can only change back to the map when it knows IF there is a turn coming
    very often the map data does not tell the app there is a turn on the route because the map data is bad or incorrect

    the only way you know there is an unreported turn is if you can see the map
    this happens a lot on very small rural roads, it is not such a problem on main roads as the map data is a lot better

    why this is important to me is I often lead groups & we have a policy for fun of the leader has to buy the coffees or beers for every u-turn, it can get expensive if many mistakes are made 😂 😂 😂

    I don't think its a bad idea, it is just one that won't work for me

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    @Brian-McG I plan routes, create group rides and lead group rides as well, been using Scenic for the past 3 years with well over 36,000 kilometres and have had zero problems.

    If you have this many incorrect map data then maybe you should look into a better provider?

    Very rarely have I ever encountered an “unreported” turn and when it did, it was user “error”, in example, I didn’t put enough waypoints or vias, the itinerary is fine once created but when you start the ride, the app sometimes change course, and that is the same with over a handful of apps I’ve tested over the years so now I put more waypoints/vias to make sure, aside from this, I’ve never encountered such unreported turns but I have to specify I don’t do off road and stick to back country roads most of the time, hasn’t been a problem here in eastern Canada but maps aren’t as accurate for every part of the world.

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    • KevN1k 0undefined KevN1k 0

      @Brian-McG I plan routes, create group rides and lead group rides as well, been using Scenic for the past 3 years with well over 36,000 kilometres and have had zero problems.

      If you have this many incorrect map data then maybe you should look into a better provider?

      Very rarely have I ever encountered an “unreported” turn and when it did, it was user “error”, in example, I didn’t put enough waypoints or vias, the itinerary is fine once created but when you start the ride, the app sometimes change course, and that is the same with over a handful of apps I’ve tested over the years so now I put more waypoints/vias to make sure, aside from this, I’ve never encountered such unreported turns but I have to specify I don’t do off road and stick to back country roads most of the time, hasn’t been a problem here in eastern Canada but maps aren’t as accurate for every part of the world.

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      @KevN1k-0 said😆
      hasn’t been a problem here in eastern Canada but maps aren’t as accurate for every part of the world.

      & there you have it 😁
      I doubt Canada has anywhere near as extensive a rural road network as France
      Canada my have many miles of road but not as many options
      the unreported turn or missing direction is not that unusual in France
      sometimes it is because they have rearranged the priority of the roads sometimes it just bad map data

      If you have this many incorrect map data then maybe you should look into a better provider?

      😂 there are only a few map data providers in the world & I have tried several,
      Here happens to be one of the biggest for navigation systems & was the provider to Scenic till Here decided to shaft its customers with massive price hikes
      Can't find who Scenic is using now but they have migrated away from Here
      would be interesting to know who they are using now as this is something I wish MRA would also do
      I will give Scenic a look 😀

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        Scenic uses OSM

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        • KevN1k 0undefined KevN1k 0

          @Con-Hennekens well jumping to MRA from Scenic, I can tell you i saw a very noticeable difference! It was a hot day and my phone notified me of stopping the charge because it was overheating. In all the years I've been using Scenic, that only happened to me once and the battery saver feature was set to "off", never occurred after that so to me it's pretty much a crucial feature.

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          @KevN1k-0 Overheating has been, and apparently still is, a common problem for at least 2-3 yrs already. It apparently is a 'HERE' problem, that has gotten attention, however, never fully seems to be resolved. Anytime it gets to ± 25degC, and using MRA Nav, the phone starts to overheat, the screen dims and the app becomes unusable - whether or not the phone is/was fully charged at the beginning or not.

          Many improvements have, and continue to be made - unfortunately, the overheating one seems extremely difficult to overcome.

          Good luck with your suggestion!

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          • GT JWRundefined GT JWR

            @KevN1k-0 Overheating has been, and apparently still is, a common problem for at least 2-3 yrs already. It apparently is a 'HERE' problem, that has gotten attention, however, never fully seems to be resolved. Anytime it gets to ± 25degC, and using MRA Nav, the phone starts to overheat, the screen dims and the app becomes unusable - whether or not the phone is/was fully charged at the beginning or not.

            Many improvements have, and continue to be made - unfortunately, the overheating one seems extremely difficult to overcome.

            Good luck with your suggestion!

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            @GT-JWR thanks for the info, I did notice the screen dim on my last ride as it was hot and the MRA app became slow and laggy. Now that you mention it, I do remember trying MRA a couple years ago and I believe I ditched it due to this.

            Scenic had HERE for some time before moving to OSM but I never had any overheating issues with Scenic with the battery saver.

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            • KevN1k 0undefined KevN1k 0

              @GT-JWR thanks for the info, I did notice the screen dim on my last ride as it was hot and the MRA app became slow and laggy. Now that you mention it, I do remember trying MRA a couple years ago and I believe I ditched it due to this.

              Scenic had HERE for some time before moving to OSM but I never had any overheating issues with Scenic with the battery saver.

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              @KevN1k-0 a riding buddy switched to Scenic a few years back (because of lingering issues with MRA) when they were using Scenic - he has not experienced extreme overheating when using the app then, or now with OSM.

              ...trying to keep the faith and ride it through.....🤷 🤞

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                You can solve the overheating problem by positioning your smartphone so that its back is exposed to the breeze, fitting a 1 mm thick aluminium plate and placing it between the case and the back of the phone.
                Power it via a cable, not wirelessly. If necessary, make a special case with additional cooling fins fitted to dissipate the heat.

                Another solution is to buy a good-quality second-hand refurbished smartphone, then stick a Quadlock in the centre of the back. Next, apply cooling fins with heat-conductive thermal paste above and below the Quadlock.

                Oververhitting kan je oplossen door je slimme telefoon wat in de wind te zetten met zijn achterkant, een alu plaatje van 1 mm dikte voorzien , en deze tussen de hoes en de achterkant van de telefoon plaatsen.
                Voeding via een kabeltje, niet draadloos. Desnoods maak je een speciale hoes waarbij je nog extra koelvinnen monteert om de warmte af te voeren.

                Oplossinge is ook een goede 2de hands refurbished slimme telefoon aanschaffen, dan een quadlock plakken op de achterkant in het midden. Dan koelvinnen met warmte geleidende kleefpasta aanbrengen onder en boven de quadlock.italicised text

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                • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

                  You can solve the overheating problem by positioning your smartphone so that its back is exposed to the breeze, fitting a 1 mm thick aluminium plate and placing it between the case and the back of the phone.
                  Power it via a cable, not wirelessly. If necessary, make a special case with additional cooling fins fitted to dissipate the heat.

                  Another solution is to buy a good-quality second-hand refurbished smartphone, then stick a Quadlock in the centre of the back. Next, apply cooling fins with heat-conductive thermal paste above and below the Quadlock.

                  Oververhitting kan je oplossen door je slimme telefoon wat in de wind te zetten met zijn achterkant, een alu plaatje van 1 mm dikte voorzien , en deze tussen de hoes en de achterkant van de telefoon plaatsen.
                  Voeding via een kabeltje, niet draadloos. Desnoods maak je een speciale hoes waarbij je nog extra koelvinnen monteert om de warmte af te voeren.

                  Oplossinge is ook een goede 2de hands refurbished slimme telefoon aanschaffen, dan een quadlock plakken op de achterkant in het midden. Dan koelvinnen met warmte geleidende kleefpasta aanbrengen onder en boven de quadlock.italicised text

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                  @AWDC-LAO Why is almost everyone on here giving alternatives when I'm asking for a feature request? LoL

                  My phone is mounted with quadlock's wireless charging mount and vibration dampener, overheating issue is only with MRA, with Scenic I get no overheating and it actually charges - it can charge to full while MRA only keeps the charge and barely charges a couple % despite being on charger for 4+ hours.

                  I'm simply trying to help MRA by giving a suggestion to a problem, people here suggests alternatives to compensate for a problem instead of trying to help make MRA better. If every app had this problem then I understand we'd have to look at alternatives but this is not the case!

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                  • KevN1k 0undefined KevN1k 0

                    @AWDC-LAO Why is almost everyone on here giving alternatives when I'm asking for a feature request? LoL

                    My phone is mounted with quadlock's wireless charging mount and vibration dampener, overheating issue is only with MRA, with Scenic I get no overheating and it actually charges - it can charge to full while MRA only keeps the charge and barely charges a couple % despite being on charger for 4+ hours.

                    I'm simply trying to help MRA by giving a suggestion to a problem, people here suggests alternatives to compensate for a problem instead of trying to help make MRA better. If every app had this problem then I understand we'd have to look at alternatives but this is not the case!

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                    @KevN1k-0, that's because people are tying to help you, with a problem that very few people suffer from. So, from their perspective, it can still be a good idea (like I also commented) but not for them. This is an open forum, not a closed suggestion box 😉

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @KevN1k-0, that's because people are tying to help you, with a problem that very few people suffer from. So, from their perspective, it can still be a good idea (like I also commented) but not for them. This is an open forum, not a closed suggestion box 😉

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                      @Con-Hennekens I am well aware this is a forum, doesn’t change the fact that I didn’t ask for alternatives. I’m also not the only one with this problem and it’s been a persisting problem for years for mobile app users, which is the forum I posted in. As a newcomer to MRA, even though I tested it in the past, I didn’t put any effort in at that time but I figured I’d try this time around but all of y’all with your alternatives just make me want to “ditch” this app a second time around and never come back…

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                        @kevn1k-0 knows both Scenic and MRA and is the best person to answer wether such a feature would be useful and used.

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                          I like the suggestion.
                          Not sure if or when we would add something like this 🙂
                          But I'll give it a thought.

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