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Indicator arrow drifts all over the map.

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  • Bouke Entundefined Offline
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    Bouke Ent
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    #10

    Yesterday I did use my ulefone x10. Did not got problem off drifting. I got problem that it was behind so I did miss a few short exits on small road. Had 2 times restart phone. Restart app and start route as track was realy slow. When it did run it did run ok. Recalculating is off but sometimes it did still like when go off to petrol station or P point. Bigger off it did not recalculate as I always want.

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      We listen to all feedback!
      Our app tries the best to lock your position on the road. However when multiple GPS coordinates start showing wrong information the app cannot decide if you are actually there or if it’s wrong information.

      The more wrong information it receives, the more likely the coordinates are actually correct.

      Feel free to share a screen recording.
      Some users having a specific issue does not ever mean it is a platform wide problem 😉

      Bouke Entundefined Offline
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      Bouke Ent
      wrote on last edited by Bouke Ent
      #11

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Indicator arrow drifts all over the map.:

      We listen to all feedback!
      Our app tries the best to lock your position on the road. However when multiple GPS coordinates start showing wrong information the app cannot decide if you are actually there or if it’s wrong information.

      The more wrong information it receives, the more likely the coordinates are actually correct.

      Feel free to share a screen recording.
      Some users having a specific issue does not ever mean it is a platform wide problem 😉

      When running behind or eating progress line is behind of in front it must be not a gps problem? I think that is rendering problem because it is not always and often it start after a while using the app.

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      • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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        M. Schrijver
        Valued contributor
        wrote on last edited by M. Schrijver
        #12

        A few weeks ago i did a route with MRA which has a few short tunnels. When i leave these tunnels. The GPS indicator was still at the start of the tunnel. After a few hunderd meter the GPS position was back on track.
        Yesterday i used HereWeGo for A to B route with also a tunnel. Also HereWeGo had troubles with the tunnel.

        Both rides where done with different vehicles and different phones.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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        • D Griffinundefined Offline
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          D Griffin
          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          Would it work better if when you were in "offline" maps if made the arrow just follow the route? Could you not use GPS on your device when in "offline" maps? Seems in my mind, using offline maps is because you are already worried about having good signal. Just a thought!!!

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            Offline mode is only related to cellular service, not GPS.

            Enabling offline mode is smart when internet connection is poor to optimise map loading / recalculations / stability to rule out searching for internet. Offline mode does not influence GPS updates.

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            • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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              M. Schrijver
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              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              Your GPS position on your screen is already heavily influenced by the software. That is why this issue is a software problem not really an GPS reception problem.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                Your GPS position on your screen is already heavily influenced by the software. That is why this issue is a software problem not really an GPS reception problem.

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @M.-Schrijver, You really think no GPS signal due to tunnels is a software problem...

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                  M. Schrijver
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  No. How the indicator moves on your screen is a software thing.
                  The GPS reception data is the same for al navigation apps but how we see it on our phone screen is all software. That's why you read messages where people states that MRA has issues with GPS position and other apps don't.

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                    A few weeks ago i did a route with MRA which has a few short tunnels. When i leave these tunnels. The GPS indicator was still at the start of the tunnel. After a few hunderd meter the GPS position was back on track.
                    Yesterday i used HereWeGo for A to B route with also a tunnel. Also HereWeGo had troubles with the tunnel.

                    Both rides where done with different vehicles and different phones.

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                    ErikMatthezing
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @M.-Schrijver Hmm, odd, i was driving in a tunnel of about 3 km and MRA did a good job of following the route. I had to exit at 800 meters out of the tunnel and it worked great for me. I was “online” at that time.

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                    • ErikMatthezingundefined ErikMatthezing

                      @M.-Schrijver Hmm, odd, i was driving in a tunnel of about 3 km and MRA did a good job of following the route. I had to exit at 800 meters out of the tunnel and it worked great for me. I was “online” at that time.

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                      Marinus van Deudekom
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      @ErikMatthezing some tunnels have a service that makes it possible to have GPS and internet reception. Others, most of them, don't. If you marker kind of kept up with your actual position could be that is was a calculated guess of MRA where you could be in the tunnel. My guess is that that tunnel didn't have a service as I stated and you lost the actual connection outside of the tunnel and it took 800 meters to detect 3 or more satellites

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                        Corjan Meijerink
                        Developer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        All apps try to simulate the same behavior.
                        I've seen MRA work, I've seen it fail in tunnels.
                        The same for Google Maps, Waze and an XT2 🤷

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                        • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                          M. Schrijver
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          Most scenic route tunnels don't have fallback for GPS and cellphone.
                          Tunnels are normally known on the maps. And it is known GPS signal is gone in tunnels. So the software must take over. Every software has it own way of doing this. Mostly the software expects you drive at a constant speed through a tunnel and after leaving the tunnel (according to the map) they stay on this course for a while. In the mean time, the software tries to find the GPS signal again and links to the GPS again for a more accurate postion.

                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                          • Bouke Entundefined Offline
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                            Bouke Ent
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                            #22

                            Now back and had no drifting arrow. as said before i had an arrow that in 25% of the time was behind. i did test today on other app and no problems. if it was behind i had to restart the app.
                            i use offline and no recalculation.

                            an other thing that seems not to work is starting a track in offline mode.

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                            • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Offline
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                              Lex.Kloet.RX
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                              #23

                              I have the same problems with the "arrow behind" case. Well not only arrow but also the navigation itself.
                              "In 400 meters turn right", a split second later "turn right now"...

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                              • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Lex.Kloet.RX

                                I have the same problems with the "arrow behind" case. Well not only arrow but also the navigation itself.
                                "In 400 meters turn right", a split second later "turn right now"...

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                                #24

                                @Lex.Kloet.RX said in Indicator arrow drifts all over the map.:

                                I have the same problems with the "arrow behind" case. Well not only arrow but also the navigation itself.
                                "In 400 meters turn right", a split second later "turn right now"...

                                when it is behind i get message on the crossing so to late. but as i said it is not always behind. also i have no other gps apps running and also no tracking.

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                                • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                                  M. Schrijver
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  This lagging is also visible in the tracklog. Less trackpoints and thus more straight lines.

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                    #26

                                    just go replay from support. it can be that driving navigate route as track is giving problems when it is behind. there advice is to use only route if this happens and look if it then is ok. i will try that. for me this options saves a lot of time to make route precise on here map. but if this works it is for me ok.

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