Route Timings
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wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 13:34 last edited by
From your experience, is there a general rule of thumb to apply to the MRA timings on a route, e.g. add 20%, or are they pretty realistic?
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From your experience, is there a general rule of thumb to apply to the MRA timings on a route, e.g. add 20%, or are they pretty realistic?
wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 14:41 last edited byThat depends on you and your riding, the track, weather, traffic, etc.. For me, it´s pretty accurate in "car mode", but that must not be the case for you.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 15:24 last edited by
I find them generally pretty good. Compared to say, Tom Tom, which usually seems to think routes take way longer than they actually do
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That depends on you and your riding, the track, weather, traffic, etc.. For me, it´s pretty accurate in "car mode", but that must not be the case for you.
wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 17:50 last edited by@Erdna said in Route Timings:
That depends on you and your riding, the track, weather, traffic, etc.. For me, it´s pretty accurate in "car mode", but that must not be the case for you.
Oh, and what most people forget: +10 min. for a fast espresso and a cigarette, +5 min. for taking a picture and a cigarette, +10 min. for refueling and a cigarette and so on.
In the planner, if you use breaks, the given time is quite accurate, but depends on traffic, of course.
But be aware: in NN, those breaks will not be considered and you will face a fake, complete different (and much earlier arrival time - the more stops, the more additonal time has to be considered in the planning).
In the end, the given time in the planner is (for me) at approx. 80% reliability. And I travel a LOT!
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@Erdna said in Route Timings:
That depends on you and your riding, the track, weather, traffic, etc.. For me, it´s pretty accurate in "car mode", but that must not be the case for you.
Oh, and what most people forget: +10 min. for a fast espresso and a cigarette, +5 min. for taking a picture and a cigarette, +10 min. for refueling and a cigarette and so on.
In the planner, if you use breaks, the given time is quite accurate, but depends on traffic, of course.
But be aware: in NN, those breaks will not be considered and you will face a fake, complete different (and much earlier arrival time - the more stops, the more additonal time has to be considered in the planning).
In the end, the given time in the planner is (for me) at approx. 80% reliability. And I travel a LOT!
wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 14:36 last edited byAs written already earlier the times calculated are far to optimistic when riding a cruiser/chopper. In a group it is even worse. We need 10-20% longer, depending on the road type.
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wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 21:53 last edited by
My personal experience riding twisty mountain routes in south of France, I needed to add 20% to 30%. It seemed to me that the map engine calculated time based on the assumption that I would be riding at the speed limit, without taking into account reduced speeds around hairpins. But that's my assumption; I could be wrong. But timings were consistently optimistic.
Vinnie
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The timings are indeed not that bad. But your ridingstyle is everything.
From what i see on my own rides. When you ride strict to speed limit. You're out of time before the route ends.
But that is not my driving style. Here in the Netherlands i'm mostly quicker than the calculated time (without breaks). But in Germany it is pretty hard for me to be quicker than the calculated time. -
The timings are indeed not that bad. But your ridingstyle is everything.
From what i see on my own rides. When you ride strict to speed limit. You're out of time before the route ends.
But that is not my driving style. Here in the Netherlands i'm mostly quicker than the calculated time (without breaks). But in Germany it is pretty hard for me to be quicker than the calculated time.wrote on 27 Apr 2025, 21:50 last edited byBig discussion about little thing. Every device calculates by own algorithm and will be more or less applicable in results.
In long time experience, I tried to optimise in my profile in Garmin BaseCamp the time calculation for different road types.
But also, I detected by long time experience: my own estimation about mileage (distance) I'm able to drive on highways, roads, unpaved patches or hairpins in mountains, becomes more realistic. But only during best weather and traffic conditions!
But because you never knows traffic and weather conditions some time before riding - the calculation about time was never exactly!But who cares? We are motorbikers, loving freedom but not constraints. We are not trains that have to stay precisely on schedule
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Big discussion about little thing. Every device calculates by own algorithm and will be more or less applicable in results.
In long time experience, I tried to optimise in my profile in Garmin BaseCamp the time calculation for different road types.
But also, I detected by long time experience: my own estimation about mileage (distance) I'm able to drive on highways, roads, unpaved patches or hairpins in mountains, becomes more realistic. But only during best weather and traffic conditions!
But because you never knows traffic and weather conditions some time before riding - the calculation about time was never exactly!But who cares? We are motorbikers, loving freedom but not constraints. We are not trains that have to stay precisely on schedule
wrote on 9 May 2025, 18:34 last edited by@Guzzist yes and no.
If you plan for groups often you have to estimate where appropriate stops during the day may be and when you may arrive approx. at the booked hotel.
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@Guzzist yes and no.
If you plan for groups often you have to estimate where appropriate stops during the day may be and when you may arrive approx. at the booked hotel.
So, sometimes time matters.@Klaus-r said in Route Timings:
@Guzzist yes and no.
If you plan for groups often you have to estimate where appropriate stops during the day may be and when you may arrive approx. at the booked hotel.
So, sometimes time matters.You used the words estimate, and may arrive approx and that is what the timings are, they are an estimate of your approx arrival time.
As a group planner your experience should allow you to know roughly how long a group takes to cover a certain distance. -
Again on average.
People tend to ride an average of 50 km/h without stops.
Besides this i think most riders do know there average speed.When i ride with a (little) group i ride 50 km/h without stops and 30 km/h with stops on average.
When you know your average speed. I becomes very easy to calculate.
Also, the routeplanner give you also a pretty good indiction of the riding time.A few times i did a tour where the start, lunch and diner times where set in a certain windows. It is upto the rider to be there in time. From what I saw, hear and read. Nearly everyone knows there limits.
These tours are tours with more than 200 people. With all the possible motorcycle and ridingstyles you can think of.
