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  • Fridjofundefined Offline
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    Fridjof
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    Hy Corjan,
    nice to have the Zoom and Pan on Android Auto,
    the tricky thing is the dependency to the camera view (north, birdview and dynamic)
    when changing the zoom manualy, often the view setting changes , there is no dedicated icon to inform about the selected view, on the phone or in other AA Apps like google maps this icon to change and provide feedback is available, no auto zoom in birdview?
    is it a bigger part of work to add this to the AA Screen?
    another thing is the screen layout of the direction and turn information, when looking to google map nav this looks more clean and less disturbing,
    are there plans to change this ?
    this two topics were the most anoying things while test driving
    best regards

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    • Arno 0undefined Online
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      Arno 0
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      #21

      I've tried the new version a couple of times now in my car with CarPlay but it doesn't want to dynamically zoom in anymore. So it's stays on the same zoom level even if I'm driving slower or when entering a roundabout or exit. Very frustrating. Any ideas to solve this? Has maybe to do with my configuration but it has worked before. Thanks

      Arno

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      • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

        I've tried the new version a couple of times now in my car with CarPlay but it doesn't want to dynamically zoom in anymore. So it's stays on the same zoom level even if I'm driving slower or when entering a roundabout or exit. Very frustrating. Any ideas to solve this? Has maybe to do with my configuration but it has worked before. Thanks

        Arno

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        wrote on last edited by
        #22

        @Arno-0
        I tested the new version immediately after Release with CarPlay and had exactly the same issue / question. Hopefully it is not an issue sitting in front of the CarPlay device 🙂

        If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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        • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

          I've tried the new version a couple of times now in my car with CarPlay but it doesn't want to dynamically zoom in anymore. So it's stays on the same zoom level even if I'm driving slower or when entering a roundabout or exit. Very frustrating. Any ideas to solve this? Has maybe to do with my configuration but it has worked before. Thanks

          Arno

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          white.mouse
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          @Arno-0 The solution to this is simple but at first I didn't know either: in the window where you have zoom and centring options, click again on the icon you used to open this zoom window. If you do this, MRA reverts to the Dynamic setting in which it automatically zooms again. If you wait until this window closes itself, MRA stays in "top camera" mode with fixed zoom and is thus not switched back!

          De oplossing hiervoor is simpel maar ik wist het eerst ook niet.
          In het venster waarin je zoom en centreer optie hebt nogmaals op het icoon klikken waarmee je dit zoom venster geopend hebt. Als je dit doet keert MRA terug naar de Dynamische instelling waarin hij weer automatisch zoomt.
          Als je wacht tot dat dit venster zichzelf sluit, dan blijft MRA in de modus "bovenaf camera" met vaste zoom en wordt dus niet terug geswitched!

          met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App; de Garmin Zumo XT en My Route App in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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          • Arno 0undefined Online
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            Arno 0
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            #24

            Dank voor je uitleg en ik ga het morgen even in de auto proberen.

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            • silberfuchs67undefined silberfuchs67

              @Arno-0
              I tested the new version immediately after Release with CarPlay and had exactly the same issue / question. Hopefully it is not an issue sitting in front of the CarPlay device 🙂

              Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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              Adrian Avram
              wrote on last edited by
              #25

              @silberfuchs67 Android Auto is the same ... I prefer a downgrade than this this crap ....

              Best regards,
              Adrian

              Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
              MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
              Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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              • white.mouseundefined white.mouse

                @Arno-0 The solution to this is simple but at first I didn't know either: in the window where you have zoom and centring options, click again on the icon you used to open this zoom window. If you do this, MRA reverts to the Dynamic setting in which it automatically zooms again. If you wait until this window closes itself, MRA stays in "top camera" mode with fixed zoom and is thus not switched back!

                De oplossing hiervoor is simpel maar ik wist het eerst ook niet.
                In het venster waarin je zoom en centreer optie hebt nogmaals op het icoon klikken waarmee je dit zoom venster geopend hebt. Als je dit doet keert MRA terug naar de Dynamische instelling waarin hij weer automatisch zoomt.
                Als je wacht tot dat dit venster zichzelf sluit, dan blijft MRA in de modus "bovenaf camera" met vaste zoom en wordt dus niet terug geswitched!

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                Léon Hassing
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                #26

                @white-mouse Ik heb dit uitgeprobeerd, maar ik zie toch geen automatische zoom, nadat ik teruggegaan ben naar de dynamische instelling.

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                • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                  M. Schrijver
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #27

                  Vandaag weer gereden.
                  Een automatische zoom is er niet in AA. Je ziet af en toe wel een beweging dat op automatische zoom lijkt maar het is zo beperkt dat het geen naam van zoom mag hebben.
                  Omdat automatische zoom niet naar behoren werkt, heb ik door onduidelijkheid toch een paar keer een verkeerde afslag genomen.

                  Toevallig gisteren weer eens met HereWeGo gereden. Deze heeft wel netjes een werkende automatisch zoom in AA.
                  Komt er een afslag in beeld. Dan wordt er netjes steeds verder op die afslag ingezoomd. Na het nemen van de afslag wordt er weer uitgezoomd.
                  Nu vind ik de standaard zoom niveau van HereWeGo veel te ver uitgezoomd maar dat is een andere discussie.

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  • Fridjofundefined Offline
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                    @Corjan-Meijerink , selecting waypoint of AA screen not working, phone OK
                    yesterday i did a nice ride in our area, prepared a route like a brezel, used the route as a track with all waypoints (~every 2 km) .
                    at an unwantedt shortcut with rerouting active the ride went craczy and at the end mra quits, after restarting the route with deactivated rerouting I schoud start from poit 1 instead of point 29 infront of me, I tried to shortcut to the point by pressing the point om the AA Screen, nothing changes only the map where paned, by doing the same on the phone it works a expected and the restart of the Track / route work well.
                    is this a known problem, can you reproduce it?,
                    best regards,
                    Fridjof

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                      #29

                      @Fridjof Well, you by design from Android Auto (and CarPlay) not select anything on the map by tapping 🙂
                      This is a user distraction while driving so not permitted.

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                      • white.mouseundefined white.mouse

                        @Arno-0 The solution to this is simple but at first I didn't know either: in the window where you have zoom and centring options, click again on the icon you used to open this zoom window. If you do this, MRA reverts to the Dynamic setting in which it automatically zooms again. If you wait until this window closes itself, MRA stays in "top camera" mode with fixed zoom and is thus not switched back!

                        De oplossing hiervoor is simpel maar ik wist het eerst ook niet.
                        In het venster waarin je zoom en centreer optie hebt nogmaals op het icoon klikken waarmee je dit zoom venster geopend hebt. Als je dit doet keert MRA terug naar de Dynamische instelling waarin hij weer automatisch zoomt.
                        Als je wacht tot dat dit venster zichzelf sluit, dan blijft MRA in de modus "bovenaf camera" met vaste zoom en wordt dus niet terug geswitched!

                        GT JWRundefined Offline
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                        GT JWR
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #30

                        @white-mouse unless I misunderstand what your saying (and I don't think I am), this did not work for me either. I can use the +/- to zoom in or out as desired, which then stayed on that zoom level unless adjusted again. A click on the icon that opened the zoom level did absolutely nothing.

                        I'm with all the others on this issue - if zoom (among other things) does not work properly on CarPlay, the Next App is unusable to me.

                        Seems every update takes 3 steps forward and 2 steps backward - a lot of past issues that were solved seem to come back - like zoom, wapypoint skipping, online vs offline, unable to calculate, etc. Seems like each update overwrites a previous fix. 😞 🤷

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          @Fridjof Well, you by design from Android Auto (and CarPlay) not select anything on the map by tapping 🙂
                          This is a user distraction while driving so not permitted.

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                          Fridjof
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #31

                          @Corjan-Meijerink
                          what is your solution to deal with this situation / problem?
                          regards

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                          • Fridjofundefined Fridjof

                            @Corjan-Meijerink
                            what is your solution to deal with this situation / problem?
                            regards

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                            Léon Hassing
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #32

                            @Fridjof Is your finding related to the subject of this thread: Zooming in Carplay/Android auto?

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                            • Léon Hassingundefined Léon Hassing

                              @Fridjof Is your finding related to the subject of this thread: Zooming in Carplay/Android auto?

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                              Fridjof
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              @Léon-Hassing
                              zooming is one of the needed on screen interactions on the dash AA or CP screen,
                              when MRA offers a feature to go dirct to a further point to shorten a route or skip some points on the phone screen while in a driving session with AA, I like to have this option also on the AA screen,
                              while driving I ca change the APP, skip or pause mp3 files, having a phone call, but no manual option to solve a scrambled route operating the AA Screen, why i can zoom and pan the map, but not selecting a given way or shaping point for reroutind the loaded route?

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                              • Fridjofundefined Fridjof

                                @Léon-Hassing
                                zooming is one of the needed on screen interactions on the dash AA or CP screen,
                                when MRA offers a feature to go dirct to a further point to shorten a route or skip some points on the phone screen while in a driving session with AA, I like to have this option also on the AA screen,
                                while driving I ca change the APP, skip or pause mp3 files, having a phone call, but no manual option to solve a scrambled route operating the AA Screen, why i can zoom and pan the map, but not selecting a given way or shaping point for reroutind the loaded route?

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                                #34

                                @Fridjof, this basically comes down to Apple and Google limitations. They don't allow a lot of interaction in their apps. So the use of AA/CP comes with limitations. That is why many people prefer a native device.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                                  M. Schrijver
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                                  #35

                                  Yes, AA/ACP has limitations.
                                  For navigation apps, the biggest limitions i encounter are when you start a route or select a destination. These functionality is to limited in AA/ACP (in general).
                                  But when the route is on your screen, then the limitations are not really limitations at all. Because when the navigation does it's job, then there is no need to touch the screen.

                                  I am a fan of AA. Nice big built-in screen and a clean interface.

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                    David Rudgley
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                                    I used MRA Navigation Next at the weekend through my AA Capuride W702 which was mostly a good experience. The only issue I have been getting is how the map is displayed on the Phone App is different on the AA device. The tilt and dynamic zoom doesn't look right whereby I don't get the same degree of 'look ahead' on AA compared to the phone screen. I have adjusted the Map Layer, Default Zoom correction and Tilt correction both at max (+2.0 and +15) which seemed to work for me. I have compared with TomTom Go and Google Maps and they don't suffer the same display difference between Phone and AA.

                                    MRA Gold Planner + App + Navigation Next user
                                    Android Pixel 8a + Android Auto - Capuride W702
                                    TomTomGo as backup
                                    KTM 1290 Super Adventure S and KTM 790 Duke

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                                    • David Rudgleyundefined David Rudgley

                                      I used MRA Navigation Next at the weekend through my AA Capuride W702 which was mostly a good experience. The only issue I have been getting is how the map is displayed on the Phone App is different on the AA device. The tilt and dynamic zoom doesn't look right whereby I don't get the same degree of 'look ahead' on AA compared to the phone screen. I have adjusted the Map Layer, Default Zoom correction and Tilt correction both at max (+2.0 and +15) which seemed to work for me. I have compared with TomTom Go and Google Maps and they don't suffer the same display difference between Phone and AA.

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                                      Adrian Avram
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                                      #37

                                      @David-Rudgley its also different between CarPlay and Android Auto. Car Play has more tilt and looks much better !

                                      Best regards,
                                      Adrian

                                      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                                      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                                      Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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