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Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app

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  • Dirk Kevin K.undefined Dirk Kevin K.

    Good morning,

    why don't you use the "Drive" app to transfer directly to the XT(2) without a cable via Bluetooth or use "Garmin Explore" and save Tracks and Routes and Favorits in the "Garmin Cloud".

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    @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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    • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

      @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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      @TomOnTour
      and why not Transfer the GPX via "Drive" App to the XT2?

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      • Dirk Kevin K.undefined Dirk Kevin K.

        @TomOnTour
        and why not Transfer the GPX via "Drive" App to the XT2?

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        @Dirk-Kevin-K As far as I know the XT2 does not support the Drive APP. The Drive APP is only for the XT.

        Greetings
        Thomas

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        • austin 1undefined austin 1

          I've recently added an XT2 to my stable and have run into an odd problem.

          Garmin documentation indicates the XT2 is no longer compatible with Garmin Basecamp. That in itself is not a surprise. What is a surprise is Garmin insists only output from the Garmin Tread application is compatible with the XT2.

          I've tried importing MRA gpx files in v1.1 and v1.2 format and neither work

          The only reliable workaround I've discovered is to delete any route files from MRA and convert the track files that are also sent along into routes. Somewhat cumbersome.

          Does anyone know if Garmin has adopted a more recent .gpx file format version or have they moved the route file format version into the 'private and not published' status?

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          @austin-1 Is is possible to see the XT2 as a storage location when you connect it to the Mac. If so, just export the GPX1.2 to a location and copy that file to the GPX dir in the XT2. If you disconnect the GPS (which shuts the GPS down). Start it again and it will ask to import the new route (from track to tour).

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          • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

            @Dirk-Kevin-K As far as I know the XT2 does not support the Drive APP. The Drive APP is only for the XT.

            Greetings
            Thomas

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            @TomOnTour
            Last experiment

            This does not seem to be an MRA problem, perhaps you can get help here Naviboard / XT2

            Furthermore, I know that there is a "Secret / Hidden Menu" where you can activate the MTP protocol, but be careful ⚠️ I do not give any guarantee ‼️
            https://www.gps-forums.com/threads/garmin-secret-menus.46595/

            And then there is the "Android File Transfer" programme for the Mac.
            https://www.androidcentral.com/how-transfer-files-your-android-phone-mac

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            • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

              @truckpilot
              No, I really do mean Garmin Express.
              It allows you to easily upload your gpx files diretly into the GPX Folder on the XT2

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                #41

                Hi All,

                I have simply given up and removed Tread from all my devices and only transfer my routes from MRA with a wired connection… I know we all go round in circles with this subject but has anyone managed to successfully get a route from MRA to Tread to their XT2 OTA (Bluetooth)

                Personally I cannot get any of the file formats to go on without some form of error in the route, this always starts with the Tread app…

                Thanks,

                Andy.

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                • Andy Beviereundefined Andy Beviere

                  Hi All,

                  I have simply given up and removed Tread from all my devices and only transfer my routes from MRA with a wired connection… I know we all go round in circles with this subject but has anyone managed to successfully get a route from MRA to Tread to their XT2 OTA (Bluetooth)

                  Personally I cannot get any of the file formats to go on without some form of error in the route, this always starts with the Tread app…

                  Thanks,

                  Andy.

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                  @Andy-Beviere. Same with me. I gave up with Tread some months ago and have also sold my XT2 now; I was so fed up with the Garmin experience.

                  Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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                  • Carl Leeundefined Carl Lee

                    Been playing a little more with this thing. I'm now happy that my system works fine to wirelessly import MRA routes and tracks in GPX 1.1 (auto recalculate in auto). Important for when on bike tours away from a computer.

                    Using the MRA wired connector also means you can import GPX 1.2 files in the normal way which is great as these follow your track exactly (auto recalculate off).

                    I've also found how to make a track visible under the route. On the main map, click on Layers - Collections - Unorganised. Make sure first to make the intended track your colour of choice (black seems to work best), make it widest and 'show on top'. Your other tracks may be there but they will probably be yellow. Obviously, reorganise or delete after use to avoid confusion.

                    I hope I'm not teaching anyone to suck eggs and this is useful. At least it's a starting point to develop further discussion.

                    Maybe a new GPX will get created to work with Garmin Explore.

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                    @Carl-Lee said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

                    Been playing a little more with this thing. I'm now happy that my system works fine to wirelessly import MRA routes and tracks in GPX 1.1 (auto recalculate in auto).

                    How are you wirelessly importing your GPX files into the XT2?

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                    • Ron Zundefined Ron Z

                      @Carl-Lee said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

                      Been playing a little more with this thing. I'm now happy that my system works fine to wirelessly import MRA routes and tracks in GPX 1.1 (auto recalculate in auto).

                      How are you wirelessly importing your GPX files into the XT2?

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                      @Ron-Z import the GPX file into Tread app and it’s there. The trick is to make sure there are enough shaping points so that Tread (and the Zumo) don’t think better and reroute it.

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                      • Carl Leeundefined Carl Lee

                        @Ron-Z import the GPX file into Tread app and it’s there. The trick is to make sure there are enough shaping points so that Tread (and the Zumo) don’t think better and reroute it.

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                        @Carl-Lee You are correct, that is exactly how it should be if you read the descriptions of Garmin, but unfortunately in reality it is a bit different:
                        My experience was, that it works from time to time, but not always. Specially my experience that Tread messes up not only the routes etc. on the XT2, but also the Garmin explore data in such a away, that I haven't been able to "repair" differences between Tread APP, my XT2 and the Garmin Explore webpage. It was that bad that I lost all the data I already have migrated from various sources into the Garmin Tread and Explore universe.

                        Beside that I must admit, that it have worked for a very short period of time and only as long as used it more or less seldom. As soon it is was used heavily for planning and organising things, it messes it totally up.

                        Greetings
                        Thomas

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