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New beta! 4.3.4 (369) - massive navigation improvements

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  • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

    @Corjan-Meijerink
    Wow, you've been really busy the last month, well done.

    Can you please explain what the difference is now when I choose a route to navigate or a track?

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    Hubert Thoring
    Valued contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @Jörgen

    To drive a planned route with via points now as a track with via points and to set the automatic recalculation to off beforehand. So the picture remains much clearer to stay on the planned path even if there are disturbances on the track.

    This can now be done via the navigation settings / functions 👍

    IMG_9474.jpeg

    IMG_9473.jpeg

    VG Hubert
    Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
    iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
    ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

      @Corjan-Meijerink
      Wow, you've been really busy the last month, well done.

      Can you please explain what the difference is now when I choose a route to navigate or a track?

      Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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      Corjan Meijerink
      Developer
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      @Jörgen not very much! The route calculation uses the individual waypoints and when placed correctly is the same as the track.

      The track however really uses the data how the route originally created 🙂

      The improvement is really to ensure that the navigation of any route or track you drive is perfect! A lot of users get a GPX file from tour operators which is a track. This then leads to unexpected results but not anymore! 🎉

      Try it yourself and notice how it feels the same 😉

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      • CD130undefined CD130

        Nice update, thank you!! 👏👏👏

        Question, I would like to pause the navigation (and the track) during, for example, a tank stop or a visit to a restaurant. I don’t want the MRA app to charge my battery unnecessarily during the break and keep hearing instructions coming out of my pocket. What is the best way to do that with the current app? Placing the app to the background is not enough, is it? So choose to stop navigation? That is very inconvenient, because you always have to restart the route. Or can that be done very quickly? Is a “pause navigation” button might be useful?

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        Corjan Meijerink
        Developer
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        @CD130 that’s easy: stop and resume is the way to go and works perfect 🙂

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        • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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          Nick Carthew
          RouteXpert
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @Corjan-Meijerink I’m looking forward to testing Stop navigation on destination reached and Pause tracklog automatically a great addition to an already very capable navigation app.
          I’m assuming that with these new features, I can put the bike away, go inside and take my bike gear off, make a coffee and then save the tracklog?
          Whereas before, it always seemed like a rush to stop navigation and tracklog and then save.

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            @Corjan-Meijerink I’m looking forward to testing Stop navigation on destination reached and Pause tracklog automatically a great addition to an already very capable navigation app.
            I’m assuming that with these new features, I can put the bike away, go inside and take my bike gear off, make a coffee and then save the tracklog?
            Whereas before, it always seemed like a rush to stop navigation and tracklog and then save.

            Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @Nick-Carthew that’s entirely correct! 🙂
            Do make sure the destination can actually be reached for it to stop. Otherwise it will still trigger when a recalculation happens extremely close to this destination 😉

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              @Jörgen not very much! The route calculation uses the individual waypoints and when placed correctly is the same as the track.

              The track however really uses the data how the route originally created 🙂

              The improvement is really to ensure that the navigation of any route or track you drive is perfect! A lot of users get a GPX file from tour operators which is a track. This then leads to unexpected results but not anymore! 🎉

              Try it yourself and notice how it feels the same 😉

              Dave J 0undefined Offline
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              Dave J 0
              Valued contributor
              wrote on last edited by Dave J 0
              #16

              @Corjan-Meijerink Really liking the changes but I have been trying some different settings with routes that I have to run as tracks. Where I have a circular route, the track is very different to the route. An example for this route and is similar to a number of these training routes I use for Advanced Riding with the same problem although this is probably the worst example:

              As a route:
              IMG_0844.png

              Waypoint order as expected:
              IMG_0843.png

              Change to route as track:
              IMG_0845.png

              The track display showing the start now at the end with nothing else (white planned route):
              IMG_0847.png

              Waypoint order has now changed:
              IMG_0848.png

              Not what I was expecting and thought I should highlight here.

              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
              iPhone 15 Pro
              CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
              CHIGEE AIO-5 Play
              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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              • CD130undefined CD130

                Nice update, thank you!! 👏👏👏

                Question, I would like to pause the navigation (and the track) during, for example, a tank stop or a visit to a restaurant. I don’t want the MRA app to charge my battery unnecessarily during the break and keep hearing instructions coming out of my pocket. What is the best way to do that with the current app? Placing the app to the background is not enough, is it? So choose to stop navigation? That is very inconvenient, because you always have to restart the route. Or can that be done very quickly? Is a “pause navigation” button might be useful?

                RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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                RetiredWingMan
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                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                @CD130 I stop navigation when I stop for a break. I also pause the tracklog. When I'm ready to head out again I resume navigation. The tracklog automatically starts again.

                2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Really liking the changes but I have been trying some different settings with routes that I have to run as tracks. Where I have a circular route, the track is very different to the route. An example for this route and is similar to a number of these training routes I use for Advanced Riding with the same problem although this is probably the worst example:

                  As a route:
                  IMG_0844.png

                  Waypoint order as expected:
                  IMG_0843.png

                  Change to route as track:
                  IMG_0845.png

                  The track display showing the start now at the end with nothing else (white planned route):
                  IMG_0847.png

                  Waypoint order has now changed:
                  IMG_0848.png

                  Not what I was expecting and thought I should highlight here.

                  Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                  Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                  Corjan Meijerink
                  Developer
                  wrote on last edited by Corjan Meijerink
                  #18

                  @Dave-J-0 does not seem too strange to be honest. You’re not near the start and it seems te finish is closest to you. Try turning off “start nearest point on track” or simply longpress anywhere on the first section of the track.

                  Waypoints only include the viapoints with the original number (as changing that into order would make you loose sense of the viapoint numbering).

                  Edit: after further investigation, the behavior is indeed not logic and is improved in a new beta / the release 🙂 Thanks @Dave-J-0!

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                  • Richard 18undefined Offline
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                    Richard 18
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    Great stuff.

                    Thank you everyone at MyRoute for the hard work you put in and being so open with the whole development process.

                    Richard

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      @Dave-J-0 does not seem too strange to be honest. You’re not near the start and it seems te finish is closest to you. Try turning off “start nearest point on track” or simply longpress anywhere on the first section of the track.

                      Waypoints only include the viapoints with the original number (as changing that into order would make you loose sense of the viapoint numbering).

                      Edit: after further investigation, the behavior is indeed not logic and is improved in a new beta / the release 🙂 Thanks @Dave-J-0!

                      Dave J 0undefined Offline
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                      Dave J 0
                      Valued contributor
                      wrote on last edited by Dave J 0
                      #20

                      @Corjan-Meijerink said in New beta! 4.3.4 (369) - massive navigation improvements:

                      Try turning off “start nearest point on track”

                      This was ‘off’ for the missing loop which is why I thought it strange. If I select this on then the full loop appears to be correct and shown.

                      Aware that the ‘route as track’ will only show vias but if i select ‘waypoints’ then i receive a white box:

                      image0.png

                      Should this not show the info for the vias?

                      Great work, love what the MRA Team are doing.

                      Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                      Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                      iPhone 15 Pro
                      CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
                      CHIGEE AIO-5 Play
                      Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                      Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                      • white.mouseundefined Offline
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                        white.mouse
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                        #21

                        This sounds fantastic. My compliments for what you have done again.
                        I hope to be offered the new Beta version soon. Unfortunately, it is not yet available for Android.

                        Dit klinkt fantastisch. Mijn complimenten voor hetgeen jullie weer verricht hebben.
                        Ik hoop de nieuwe Beta versie snel aangeboden te krijgen. Helaas is deze voor Android nog niet beschikbaar.

                        met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App; de Garmin Zumo XT en My Route App in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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                        • Stanisławundefined Offline
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                          Stanisław
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                          #22

                          Just installed on IOS. Does it mean that we are able now to plan route using tomotom routing in the planner and then navigate by track having info about waypoints etc? I would be great!

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                          • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Really liking the changes but I have been trying some different settings with routes that I have to run as tracks. Where I have a circular route, the track is very different to the route. An example for this route and is similar to a number of these training routes I use for Advanced Riding with the same problem although this is probably the worst example:

                            As a route:
                            IMG_0844.png

                            Waypoint order as expected:
                            IMG_0843.png

                            Change to route as track:
                            IMG_0845.png

                            The track display showing the start now at the end with nothing else (white planned route):
                            IMG_0847.png

                            Waypoint order has now changed:
                            IMG_0848.png

                            Not what I was expecting and thought I should highlight here.

                            Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                            Corjan Meijerink
                            Developer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            @Dave-J-0 I've improved this in a next beta update / the release 🙂

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                            • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                              @Corjan-Meijerink said in New beta! 4.3.4 (369) - massive navigation improvements:

                              Try turning off “start nearest point on track”

                              This was ‘off’ for the missing loop which is why I thought it strange. If I select this on then the full loop appears to be correct and shown.

                              Aware that the ‘route as track’ will only show vias but if i select ‘waypoints’ then i receive a white box:

                              image0.png

                              Should this not show the info for the vias?

                              Great work, love what the MRA Team are doing.

                              Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                              Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                              Corjan Meijerink
                              Developer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              @Dave-J-0 Thanks for sharing, fixed this too! 🙂

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                              • Stanisławundefined Stanisław

                                Just installed on IOS. Does it mean that we are able now to plan route using tomotom routing in the planner and then navigate by track having info about waypoints etc? I would be great!

                                Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                                Corjan Meijerink
                                Developer
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                @Stanisław that's indeed correct however I'm slightly unsure why you'd want to do this 😉 Unless it's to use the TomTom scenic routing options and then preserve those by driving as track.

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                                • Stanisławundefined Stanisław

                                  Just installed on IOS. Does it mean that we are able now to plan route using tomotom routing in the planner and then navigate by track having info about waypoints etc? I would be great!

                                  Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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                                  Nick Carthew
                                  RouteXpert
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  @Stanisław No, the app does not use the planning map from TomTom.
                                  If you want to use the TomTom planning map, use the Compare route with HERE tool to ensure that your TomTom route is followed accurately by the HERE map.

                                  Always willing to help if I can.
                                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                    @Stanisław that's indeed correct however I'm slightly unsure why you'd want to do this 😉 Unless it's to use the TomTom scenic routing options and then preserve those by driving as track.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink Tomtom in general is better for paved roads then Here, I used it for years and I liked it. Maybe it is not so important in case of well planned trips but can be an interesting option. I will test it for sure - thank you!

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                                    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                      @Stanisław No, the app does not use the planning map from TomTom.
                                      If you want to use the TomTom planning map, use the Compare route with HERE tool to ensure that your TomTom route is followed accurately by the HERE map.

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                                      #28

                                      @Nick-Carthew In case of track based navigation we could say that we can use the road planned in the MRA planner using Tomtom/Openstreet maps algorythm, moved to the MRA navigation as a track - am I wrong?

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                                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                        @Dave-J-0 Thanks for sharing, fixed this too! 🙂

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                                        #29

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for this. Just wondering how adding additional stops (petrol, coffee) should show; I appear to be able to select a venue in CarPlay but this does not get added to track. I understand that I am navigating as a track but curious how these will be added to the existing track or will I be able to? On the iPhone, do not have the’Add Stop’ option.

                                        Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                                        Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                                        iPhone 15 Pro
                                        CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
                                        CHIGEE AIO-5 Play
                                        Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                                        Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                                        • Stanisławundefined Stanisław

                                          @Nick-Carthew In case of track based navigation we could say that we can use the road planned in the MRA planner using Tomtom/Openstreet maps algorythm, moved to the MRA navigation as a track - am I wrong?

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                                          RouteXpert
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @Stanisław said in New beta! 4.3.4 (369) - massive navigation improvements:

                                          @Nick-Carthew In case of track based navigation we could say that we can use the road planned in the MRA planner using Tomtom/Openstreet maps algorythm, moved to the MRA navigation as a track - am I wrong?

                                          Well according to Corjan, no you are not wrong so I stand corrected.

                                          Always willing to help if I can.
                                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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