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  • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom :

    Danke, das ist mir schon alles so bekannt, die Route kommt wahrscheinlich als Basis aus BaseCamp aber was mich hier im Moment so stört ist das beim Import der Datei in Richtung MyRoute-App auf den unterschiedlichen Wegen so unterschiedliche Ergebnisse entstehen.

    Diese habe ich ja oben ausführlich schon beschrieben….

    Die Datei ist ein Track und enthält zusätzliche Punkte die nichts direkt mit der Route zu tun haben.

    Die beste und sauberste Lösung ist der Weg über MRA Upload wobei im Beispiel die Route falsch erstellt wird, dort werden die Punkte wahllos verbunden…

    Die Datei schicke ich per Chat wenn das geht ?!

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom

    Thank you, I already know all this, the route probably comes as a base from BaseCamp but what bothers me here at the moment is that when importing the file in the direction of MyRoute app in the different ways such different results arise.

    I have already described these in detail above....

    The file is a track and contains additional points that have nothing directly to do with the route.

    The best and cleanest solution is the way via MRA upload whereby in the example the route is created incorrectly, there the points are randomly connected...

    I'll send the file via chat if that's possible?!

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    @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
    I've looked at your file.
    When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
    Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
    I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
    That gave the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
    Then I started use route with the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
    An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
    Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

    Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
    34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

    A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

    Coinclusion:
    If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
    Can be done but it takes some work.
    have fun

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    Honda Silverwing GL 650
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      #9

      It seems to me that the main issue is that:

      • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
      • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

      The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

      In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

      • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
      • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
        I've looked at your file.
        When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
        Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
        I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
        That gave the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
        Then I started use route with the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
        An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
        Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

        Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
        34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

        A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

        Coinclusion:
        If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
        Can be done but it takes some work.
        have fun

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        #10

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

        @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
        I've looked at your file.
        When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
        Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
        I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
        That gave the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
        Then I started use route with the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
        An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
        Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

        Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
        34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

        A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

        Coinclusion:
        If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
        Can be done but it takes some work.
        have fun

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom
        Thanks for the test with the same file, I came to the same result.

        I have often had the fact that the MRA cannot load this file and aborts it with an error message, but this should be solved.

        The MRA should be more intelligent and recognize that the example file is a track and additionally contains points (POI). It would be nice if that could be optimized.

        —-

        Danke für den Test mit der gleichen Datei, ich bin zum gleichen Ergebnis gekommen.

        Das die MRA diese Datei nicht laden kann und mit einer Fehlermeldung abbricht habe ich auch schon öfter gehabt, dieses sollte aber gelöst werden.

        Die MRA sollte intelligenter sein und erkennen das die Beispiel Datei ein Track ist und zusätzlich Punkte (POI) enthält. Wäre schön wenn das optimiert werden könnte.

        VG Hubert
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        • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

          It seems to me that the main issue is that:

          • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
          • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

          The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

          In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

          • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
          • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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          #11

          @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

          It seems to me that the main issue is that:

          • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
          • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

          The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

          In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

          • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
          • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs

          @Herko-ter-Horst

          Hey, that would be my suggestion 👍

          Hey, genau das wäre auch mein Vorschlag 👍

          VG Hubert
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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

            @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
            I've looked at your file.
            When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
            Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
            I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
            That gave the following result:
            Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
            Then I started use route with the following result:
            Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
            An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
            Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

            Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
            34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

            A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

            Coinclusion:
            If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
            Can be done but it takes some work.
            have fun

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            #12

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom

            Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

            War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

            IMG_9420.png

            The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

            Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

            VG Hubert
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            • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

              @Marinus-van-Deudekom

              Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

              War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

              IMG_9420.png

              The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

              Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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              #13

              @Marinus-van-Deudekom

              The funny thing is that this file via WhatsApp as an attached file then does not lead to this error by clicking and the file is loaded in MRA as a route track.

              Das komische ist das diese Datei über WhatsApp als ein angehängte Datei dann per Klick nicht zu diesem Fehler führt und die Datei in MRA als Route-Track geladen wird.

              IMG_9421.png

              IMG_9423.png

              VG Hubert
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              • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

                War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

                IMG_9420.png

                The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

                Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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                #14

                @Hubert-Thoring no error message at all. In the phone or just kept hanging

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                • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                  It seems to me that the main issue is that:

                  • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
                  • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

                  The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

                  In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

                  • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
                  • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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                  #15

                  @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

                  In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

                  warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

                  If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

                    In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

                    warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

                    If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

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                    #16

                    @Con-Hennekens :

                    Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

                    To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

                    @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                    Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

                    Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

                    Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

                    A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

                    If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

                    If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

                    Test that the

                    Testet das mal der Link zur Route

                    IMG_9407.png

                    VG Hubert
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                    • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                      @Con-Hennekens :

                      Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

                      To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

                      @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                      Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

                      Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

                      Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

                      A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

                      If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

                      If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

                      Test that the

                      Testet das mal der Link zur Route

                      IMG_9407.png

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                      #17

                      @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                      I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                      When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                      My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                        I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                        When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                        My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                        #18

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                        Thank you first!!

                        Which cell phone do you have?

                        • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                        Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                        VG 👋

                        Danke erst einmal!!

                        Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                        • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                        Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                        VG 👋

                        I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                        Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

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                          I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                          I’m using an iPhone 11

                          IMG_4284.png

                          Always willing to help if I can.
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                          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                            I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                            I’m using an iPhone 11

                            IMG_4284.png

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                            @Nick-Carthew

                            Thank you first of all 👋

                            Question about the exact procedure !!️

                            You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                            Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                            Was that like that or different

                            Danke erst einmal 👋

                            Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                            Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                            Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                            War das so oder anders

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                            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                              @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                              I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                              When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                              My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                              @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                              The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                              It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                              • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                                I’m using an iPhone 11

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                                @Nick-Carthew

                                Could it also be that you have the wrong open one because "red" is not transmitted in GPX 1.1 ... 👋

                                Könnte es auch sein das Du die falsche geöffnete hast denn „Rot“ wird nicht im GPX 1.1 übertragen … 👋

                                VG Hubert
                                Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
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                                • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                  @Nick-Carthew

                                  Thank you first of all 👋

                                  Question about the exact procedure !!️

                                  You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                                  Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                                  Was that like that or different

                                  Danke erst einmal 👋

                                  Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                                  Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                                  Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                                  War das so oder anders

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                                  @Hubert-Thoring I saved your route to my MRA library by using the +Use route button. I then opened the route in the MRA mobile app and used the download button and chose.gpx 1.1 and then I clicked the Export button and chose WhatsApp.
                                  I opened WhatsApp, clicked the link and it opened as it should.

                                  But I don’t know why you are using this method.
                                  Just open the route then click the 3 dots top right and choose share. There is no need to use the download button and export.

                                  Always willing to help if I can.
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                                  • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                                    Thank you first!!

                                    Which cell phone do you have?

                                    • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                                    Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                                    VG 👋

                                    Danke erst einmal!!

                                    Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                                    • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                                    Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                                    VG 👋

                                    I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                                    Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

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                                    @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                                    Like stated in my signature I use an Samsung S20FE.
                                    I'm allergic to Aple so I can"t help you there 🙂

                                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                                      The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                                      It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

                                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

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                                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom, "having no advantage" is not equal to "Here can't handle that profile". That profile is introduced by Here themselves, hence it is available in the app. "Having no advantage" is only true, as far as you know it. I agree that the advantage seems to be very limited, but for me even just the helmet icon is an advantage in itself, indicating for which purpose a route was designed.

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                          Except for not having shortest route option, there aren't disadvantages.
                                          Advantages are better ETA calculation and maneuvers that make sense for bikes.

                                          Motorcycle mode:
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                                          Car mode:
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                                          In general motorcycle mode will allow more sharp turns as your turn radius is significantly less than for cars. Besides that roads disallowed only for cars can also be allowed but that information is quite often not as accurate and treated just as for cars 😉

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