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  • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
    27 Nov 2024, 10:03

    @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
    I've looked at your file.
    When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
    Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
    I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
    That gave the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
    Then I started use route with the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
    An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
    Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

    Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
    34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

    A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

    Coinclusion:
    If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
    Can be done but it takes some work.
    have fun

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    Valued contributor
    wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 12:23 last edited by
    #10

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

    @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
    I've looked at your file.
    When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
    Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
    I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
    That gave the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
    Then I started use route with the following result:
    Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
    An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
    Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

    Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
    34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

    A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

    Coinclusion:
    If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
    Can be done but it takes some work.
    have fun

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom
    Thanks for the test with the same file, I came to the same result.

    I have often had the fact that the MRA cannot load this file and aborts it with an error message, but this should be solved.

    The MRA should be more intelligent and recognize that the example file is a track and additionally contains points (POI). It would be nice if that could be optimized.

    —-

    Danke für den Test mit der gleichen Datei, ich bin zum gleichen Ergebnis gekommen.

    Das die MRA diese Datei nicht laden kann und mit einer Fehlermeldung abbricht habe ich auch schon öfter gehabt, dieses sollte aber gelöst werden.

    Die MRA sollte intelligenter sein und erkennen das die Beispiel Datei ein Track ist und zusätzlich Punkte (POI) enthält. Wäre schön wenn das optimiert werden könnte.

    VG Hubert
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    • undefined Herko ter Horst
      27 Nov 2024, 11:14

      It seems to me that the main issue is that:

      • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
      • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

      The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

      In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

      • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
      • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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      Valued contributor
      wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 12:25 last edited by
      #11

      @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

      It seems to me that the main issue is that:

      • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
      • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

      The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

      In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

      • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
      • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs

      @Herko-ter-Horst

      Hey, that would be my suggestion 👍

      Hey, genau das wäre auch mein Vorschlag 👍

      VG Hubert
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      • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
        27 Nov 2024, 10:03

        @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
        I've looked at your file.
        When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
        Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
        I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
        That gave the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
        Then I started use route with the following result:
        Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
        An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
        Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

        Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
        34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

        A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

        Coinclusion:
        If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
        Can be done but it takes some work.
        have fun

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        Hubert Thoring
        Valued contributor
        wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 12:29 last edited by Hubert Thoring
        #12

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom

        Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

        War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

        IMG_9420.png

        The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

        Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

        VG Hubert
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        ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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        • undefined Hubert Thoring
          27 Nov 2024, 12:29

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom

          Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

          War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

          IMG_9420.png

          The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

          Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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          wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 12:38 last edited by Hubert Thoring
          #13

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom

          The funny thing is that this file via WhatsApp as an attached file then does not lead to this error by clicking and the file is loaded in MRA as a route track.

          Das komische ist das diese Datei über WhatsApp als ein angehängte Datei dann per Klick nicht zu diesem Fehler führt und die Datei in MRA als Route-Track geladen wird.

          IMG_9421.png

          IMG_9423.png

          VG Hubert
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          • undefined Hubert Thoring
            27 Nov 2024, 12:29

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom

            Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

            War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

            IMG_9420.png

            The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

            Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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            Marinus van Deudekom
            Valued contributor
            wrote on 27 Nov 2024, 15:00 last edited by
            #14

            @Hubert-Thoring no error message at all. In the phone or just kept hanging

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            • undefined Herko ter Horst
              27 Nov 2024, 11:14

              It seems to me that the main issue is that:

              • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
              • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

              The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

              In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

              • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
              • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 28 Nov 2024, 15:47 last edited by
              #15

              @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

              In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

              warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

              If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • undefined Con Hennekens
                28 Nov 2024, 15:47

                @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

                In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

                warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

                If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

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                Hubert Thoring
                Valued contributor
                wrote on 28 Nov 2024, 18:45 last edited by Hubert Thoring
                #16

                @Con-Hennekens :

                Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

                To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

                @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

                Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

                Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

                A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

                If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

                If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

                Test that the

                Testet das mal der Link zur Route

                IMG_9407.png

                VG Hubert
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                • undefined Hubert Thoring
                  28 Nov 2024, 18:45

                  @Con-Hennekens :

                  Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

                  To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

                  @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                  Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

                  Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

                  Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

                  A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

                  If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

                  If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

                  Test that the

                  Testet das mal der Link zur Route

                  IMG_9407.png

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                  Marinus van Deudekom
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on 28 Nov 2024, 22:39 last edited by
                  #17

                  @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                  I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                  When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                  My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                  • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
                    28 Nov 2024, 22:39

                    @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                    I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                    When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                    My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                    Valued contributor
                    wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 08:36 last edited by Hubert Thoring
                    #18

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                    Thank you first!!

                    Which cell phone do you have?

                    • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                    Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                    VG 👋

                    Danke erst einmal!!

                    Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                    • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                    Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                    VG 👋

                    I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                    Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

                    IMG_9438.jpeg

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                      wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 08:50 last edited by
                      #19

                      I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                      I’m using an iPhone 11

                      IMG_4284.png

                      Always willing to help if I can.
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                      • undefined Nick Carthew
                        29 Nov 2024, 08:50

                        I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                        I’m using an iPhone 11

                        IMG_4284.png

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                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 09:01 last edited by
                        #20

                        @Nick-Carthew

                        Thank you first of all 👋

                        Question about the exact procedure !!️

                        You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                        Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                        Was that like that or different

                        Danke erst einmal 👋

                        Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                        Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                        Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                        War das so oder anders

                        VG Hubert
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                        • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
                          28 Nov 2024, 22:39

                          @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                          I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                          When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                          My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 09:22 last edited by
                          #21

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                          The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                          It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                          • undefined Nick Carthew
                            29 Nov 2024, 08:50

                            I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                            I’m using an iPhone 11

                            IMG_4284.png

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                            Valued contributor
                            wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 09:34 last edited by
                            #22

                            @Nick-Carthew

                            Could it also be that you have the wrong open one because "red" is not transmitted in GPX 1.1 ... 👋

                            Könnte es auch sein das Du die falsche geöffnete hast denn „Rot“ wird nicht im GPX 1.1 übertragen … 👋

                            VG Hubert
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                            • undefined Hubert Thoring
                              29 Nov 2024, 09:01

                              @Nick-Carthew

                              Thank you first of all 👋

                              Question about the exact procedure !!️

                              You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                              Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                              Was that like that or different

                              Danke erst einmal 👋

                              Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                              Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                              Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                              War das so oder anders

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                              RouteXpert
                              wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 09:34 last edited by
                              #23

                              @Hubert-Thoring I saved your route to my MRA library by using the +Use route button. I then opened the route in the MRA mobile app and used the download button and chose.gpx 1.1 and then I clicked the Export button and chose WhatsApp.
                              I opened WhatsApp, clicked the link and it opened as it should.

                              But I don’t know why you are using this method.
                              Just open the route then click the 3 dots top right and choose share. There is no need to use the download button and export.

                              Always willing to help if I can.
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                              MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
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                              • undefined Hubert Thoring
                                29 Nov 2024, 08:36

                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                                Thank you first!!

                                Which cell phone do you have?

                                • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                                Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                                VG 👋

                                Danke erst einmal!!

                                Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                                • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                                Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                                VG 👋

                                I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                                Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

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                                Marinus van Deudekom
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                                wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 10:24 last edited by
                                #24

                                @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                                Like stated in my signature I use an Samsung S20FE.
                                I'm allergic to Aple so I can"t help you there 🙂

                                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                  29 Nov 2024, 09:22

                                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                                  The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                                  It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                                  Marinus van Deudekom
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                                  wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 10:26 last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

                                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                    29 Nov 2024, 10:26

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

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                                    Con Hennekens
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                                    wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 12:59 last edited by Con Hennekens
                                    #26

                                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom, "having no advantage" is not equal to "Here can't handle that profile". That profile is introduced by Here themselves, hence it is available in the app. "Having no advantage" is only true, as far as you know it. I agree that the advantage seems to be very limited, but for me even just the helmet icon is an advantage in itself, indicating for which purpose a route was designed.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      Corjan Meijerink
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                                      wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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                                      Except for not having shortest route option, there aren't disadvantages.
                                      Advantages are better ETA calculation and maneuvers that make sense for bikes.

                                      Motorcycle mode:
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                                      Car mode:
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                                      In general motorcycle mode will allow more sharp turns as your turn radius is significantly less than for cars. Besides that roads disallowed only for cars can also be allowed but that information is quite often not as accurate and treated just as for cars 😉

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                                      • undefined Nick Carthew
                                        29 Nov 2024, 09:34

                                        @Hubert-Thoring I saved your route to my MRA library by using the +Use route button. I then opened the route in the MRA mobile app and used the download button and chose.gpx 1.1 and then I clicked the Export button and chose WhatsApp.
                                        I opened WhatsApp, clicked the link and it opened as it should.

                                        But I don’t know why you are using this method.
                                        Just open the route then click the 3 dots top right and choose share. There is no need to use the download button and export.

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                                        wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 15:31 last edited by
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                                        @Nick-Carthew, @Marinus-van-Deudekom @Con-Hennekens

                                        Hello everyone,
                                        Thanks again for your cooperation, for clarification, I think we are still talking/writing at cross-purposes.

                                        The respective test was not carried out exactly 1:1 either, because friends in the test at least with the iPhone iOS / iPad iOS encountered these two errors in exactly the same way.

                                        Test:

                                        • 1.) WhatsApp, share the file received here with a click to MRA
                                        • 2.) Share the file from the phone storage with a click to MRA

                                        I would like to show the malfunction of these two already shown ways of transferring files with a route that has several Via WPs. Because during the transfer, a route track is always created in which the 10 Via WPs mentioned are missing even though it is one route and that is the error in each case.

                                        I am aware of the many other internal MRA options, but the beta is about possible errors or malfunctions, so I ask that you test exactly what I will write down step by step in the next post.

                                        Thank you very much for that.

                                        Hallo an alle,
                                        Danke noch einmal für die Zusammenarbeit, zur Erklärung, ich glaube wir reden / schreiben teilweise noch aneinander vorbei.

                                        Auch der jeweilige Test wurde nicht ganz so 1:1 durchgeführt, weil bei Freunden im Test zumindest mit dem iPhone iOS / iPad iOS diese zwei Fehler genau so aufgetreten sind.

                                        Test:

                                        • 1.) WhatsApp, hier erhaltene Datei per Klick teilen an MRA
                                        • 2.) Datei vom Handy Speicher per Klick teilen an MRA

                                        Ich möchte grundsätzlich die Fehlfunktion dieser zwei schon aufgezeigten Wege zur Dateiübertragung mit einer Route aufzeigen die mehreren Via WP hat. Denn daraus wird bei der Übertragung jeweils dann immer ein Routen-Track in der die besagten 10 Via WP fehlen obwohl es eine Route ist und das ist jeweils der Fehler.

                                        Die vielen MRA internen anderen Möglichkeiten sind mir bekannt aber im Beta geht es um mögliche Fehler- oder Fehlfunktionen, also bitte ich darum genau das zu testen was ich im nächsten Beitrag noch einmal Schritt für Schritt aufschreibe.

                                        Vielen Dank schon einmal dafür.

                                        VG Hubert
                                        Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                                        iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                                        ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                                          29 Nov 2024, 15:31

                                          @Nick-Carthew, @Marinus-van-Deudekom @Con-Hennekens

                                          Hello everyone,
                                          Thanks again for your cooperation, for clarification, I think we are still talking/writing at cross-purposes.

                                          The respective test was not carried out exactly 1:1 either, because friends in the test at least with the iPhone iOS / iPad iOS encountered these two errors in exactly the same way.

                                          Test:

                                          • 1.) WhatsApp, share the file received here with a click to MRA
                                          • 2.) Share the file from the phone storage with a click to MRA

                                          I would like to show the malfunction of these two already shown ways of transferring files with a route that has several Via WPs. Because during the transfer, a route track is always created in which the 10 Via WPs mentioned are missing even though it is one route and that is the error in each case.

                                          I am aware of the many other internal MRA options, but the beta is about possible errors or malfunctions, so I ask that you test exactly what I will write down step by step in the next post.

                                          Thank you very much for that.

                                          Hallo an alle,
                                          Danke noch einmal für die Zusammenarbeit, zur Erklärung, ich glaube wir reden / schreiben teilweise noch aneinander vorbei.

                                          Auch der jeweilige Test wurde nicht ganz so 1:1 durchgeführt, weil bei Freunden im Test zumindest mit dem iPhone iOS / iPad iOS diese zwei Fehler genau so aufgetreten sind.

                                          Test:

                                          • 1.) WhatsApp, hier erhaltene Datei per Klick teilen an MRA
                                          • 2.) Datei vom Handy Speicher per Klick teilen an MRA

                                          Ich möchte grundsätzlich die Fehlfunktion dieser zwei schon aufgezeigten Wege zur Dateiübertragung mit einer Route aufzeigen die mehreren Via WP hat. Denn daraus wird bei der Übertragung jeweils dann immer ein Routen-Track in der die besagten 10 Via WP fehlen obwohl es eine Route ist und das ist jeweils der Fehler.

                                          Die vielen MRA internen anderen Möglichkeiten sind mir bekannt aber im Beta geht es um mögliche Fehler- oder Fehlfunktionen, also bitte ich darum genau das zu testen was ich im nächsten Beitrag noch einmal Schritt für Schritt aufschreibe.

                                          Vielen Dank schon einmal dafür.

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                                          wrote on 29 Nov 2024, 16:27 last edited by Hubert Thoring
                                          #29

                                          Test: WhatsApp
                                          To explain, there are many bikers who don't have an MRA yet but have good routes, which are often sent to friends via WhatsApp. Now to the problem, when sharing directly from WhatsApp to the MRA, the error occurs and a good route with, for example, some important Via WPs becomes a route track in which these important Via WPs are missing.

                                          To test / show this, I created this route with 10 additional Via WPs.

                                          Please proceed exactly as follows when testing:

                                          Preparation for the test:
                                          1.) Please only carry out the test on your mobile phone
                                          2.) Please add the route = Link to route to your own library using +Route (use).
                                          2.) Please download the route from the MRA in 1.1 GPX format and then send it to your own WhatsApp address.

                                          Perform test:
                                          3.) Search for the received route in WhatsApp
                                          4.) Click to share this file with the route to MRA
                                          5.) The MRA opens with a route? or route track?

                                          Info: This is how it is for me - The MRA opens with a route track even though the file was once a route, the 10 Via hands are missing.

                                          5.) Please save in MRA now.

                                          You probably have two files with the same name but different content under routes, but the 10 Via WP are missing in one of them.

                                          I had Via WP at 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 shown with a red hand. Red is not transferred in the GPX but the Via points should be there.

                                          How is your test now????

                                          In my opinion, this is a mistake, at least in an iOS mobile application.

                                          Test: WhatsApp
                                          Zur Erklärung, es gibt viele Biker die noch keine MRA haben aber dafür gute Routen, diese werden dann oft mit der WhatsApp an Freunde geschickt. Jetzt zum Problem, beim direkten teilen aus der WhatsApp an die MRA tritt dann der Fehler auf und aus einer guten Route mit zum Beispiel einigen wichtigen Via WP wird ein Routen-Track in dem diese wichtigen Via WP fehlen.

                                          Um dieses zu testen / zu zeigen habe ich diese Route mit 10 zusätzlichen Via WP erstellt.

                                          Bitte beim Test genau so vorgehen:

                                          Vorbereitung zum Test:
                                          1.) Bitte Test nur am Handy durchführen
                                          2.) Bitte die Route = Link zur Route per +Route (benutzen) in die eigene Bibliothek übernehmen.
                                          2.) Bitte die Route aus der MRA per Herunterladen im 1.1 GPX Format laden und dann bitte an deine eigene WhatsApp Adresse schicken.

                                          Test durchführen:
                                          3.) Erhaltene Route in WhatsApp suchen
                                          4.) Diese Datei mit der Route jetzt per Klick an MRA teilen
                                          5.) Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Route ? oder Routen-Track ?

                                          Info bei mir ist es so - Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Routen-Track obwohl die Datei mal eine Route war, es fehlen die 10 Via Hände.

                                          5.) Bitte jetzt in MRA speichern.

                                          Jetzt hast Du wahrscheinlich zwei Dateien mit gleichem Namen aber unterschiedlichem Inhalt unter Routen liegen, in der einen fehlen aber die 10 Via WP.

                                          Ich hatte Via WP bei 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 mit roter Hand dargestellt. Rot wird in der GPX nicht übertragen aber die Via Punkte sollten vorhanden sein.

                                          Wie ist das bei eurem Test jetzt ????

                                          Aus meiner Sicht ist das ein Fehler, zumindest bei einer iOS Handy Anwendung.

                                          VG Hubert
                                          Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                                          iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                                          ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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