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  • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

    The manual is great, but doesn't help with my problem opening the HERE route in the app. Can anyone help please?

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    Rob Verhoeff
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    wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
    #7

    @Tom-Grzelinski No offence, but you have created one route that is nearly 4600km long! That's at least a journey of 15 days if you drive 300km every day. First of all: why on earth would you make a route that long? Why not break it up into daily routes? There are so many overlapping segments in that route that I can imagine MRA would choke on it.

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    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

      @Tom-Grzelinski No offence, but you have created one route that is nearly 4600km long! That's at least a journey of 15 days if you drive 300km every day. First of all: why on earth would you make a route that long? Why not break it up into daily routes? There are so many overlapping segments in that route that I can imagine MRA would choke on it.

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      @Rob-Verhoeff
      Hi Rob,

      I am doing this in 14 days this September! It makes (and made) sense to me to do it all as one route so that I had the totals, but also it is all one big trip and I can see the whole route together.

      No offence either, but MRA copes perfectly well with this. The route we are talking about is my v5 route. v1-4 use OpenStreetMap and open perfectly and navigate perfectly in the App.

      I only changed v5 to HERE map to avoid the seasonal closures, but maybe that was a bad idea. Maybe I should stick with the OpenStreetMap version.

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      • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

        @Rob-Verhoeff
        Hi Rob,

        I am doing this in 14 days this September! It makes (and made) sense to me to do it all as one route so that I had the totals, but also it is all one big trip and I can see the whole route together.

        No offence either, but MRA copes perfectly well with this. The route we are talking about is my v5 route. v1-4 use OpenStreetMap and open perfectly and navigate perfectly in the App.

        I only changed v5 to HERE map to avoid the seasonal closures, but maybe that was a bad idea. Maybe I should stick with the OpenStreetMap version.

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        #9

        @Tom-Grzelinski Okay, I do find it quite interesting! However, if you create the route in OSM and then open it for navigation, you will receive a warning that the route may deviate because the navigation module only uses the Here map. In that case, I don't find it strange that something went wrong as per the notification you receive! Somewhere along the route, the app simply cannot calculate a route. Always create the route you want to navigate in the Here map, or if you export to TomTom, use the TomTom map.

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        • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

          @Tom-Grzelinski Okay, I do find it quite interesting! However, if you create the route in OSM and then open it for navigation, you will receive a warning that the route may deviate because the navigation module only uses the Here map. In that case, I don't find it strange that something went wrong as per the notification you receive! Somewhere along the route, the app simply cannot calculate a route. Always create the route you want to navigate in the Here map, or if you export to TomTom, use the TomTom map.

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          wrote on last edited by Herko ter Horst
          #10

          Is @Tom-Grzelinski even using the actual (paid) navigation module I wonder, or just "follow the line" navigation in the free part of the app?

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          • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

            @Tom-Grzelinski Okay, I do find it quite interesting! However, if you create the route in OSM and then open it for navigation, you will receive a warning that the route may deviate because the navigation module only uses the Here map. In that case, I don't find it strange that something went wrong as per the notification you receive! Somewhere along the route, the app simply cannot calculate a route. Always create the route you want to navigate in the Here map, or if you export to TomTom, use the TomTom map.

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            @Rob-Verhoeff
            Hi Rob, v5 (mk5) was created in HERE map and avoids the navigation changes... I just can't open it in the app!

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            • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

              @Rob-Verhoeff
              Hi Rob,

              I am doing this in 14 days this September! It makes (and made) sense to me to do it all as one route so that I had the totals, but also it is all one big trip and I can see the whole route together.

              No offence either, but MRA copes perfectly well with this. The route we are talking about is my v5 route. v1-4 use OpenStreetMap and open perfectly and navigate perfectly in the App.

              I only changed v5 to HERE map to avoid the seasonal closures, but maybe that was a bad idea. Maybe I should stick with the OpenStreetMap version.

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              #12

              @Tom-Grzelinski Some of your waypoints are also located very far from the road! Always make sure they are right on top of the route line. Otherwise, you do indeed run the risk of the navigation not being able to calculate the route because a waypoint simply cannot be found.

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              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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              • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                Is @Tom-Grzelinski even using the actual (paid) navigation module I wonder, or just "follow the line" navigation in the free part of the app?

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                @Herko-ter-Horst
                Hi Herko, I have been using MRA for about 4 months, building this trip. I purchased the Lifetime package last week, hence I am trying to get the route to work on the App... before I leave on the trip in September!!!

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                • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

                  @Rob-Verhoeff
                  Hi Rob, v5 (mk5) was created in HERE map and avoids the navigation changes... I just can't open it in the app!

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                  #14

                  @Tom-Grzelinski Take for example waypoint 27:

                  This is yours:

                  Scherm­afbeelding 2023-08-07 om 23.01.37.png

                  I would do it like this:

                  Scherm­afbeelding 2023-08-07 om 23.02.33.png

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                  • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                    @Tom-Grzelinski Some of your waypoints are also located very far from the road! Always make sure they are right on top of the route line. Otherwise, you do indeed run the risk of the navigation not being able to calculate the route because a waypoint simply cannot be found.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @Rob-Verhoeff
                    Thanks Rob. All the waypoints were made through MRA web, searching for locations. I thought they were all on road locations. I will take a close look again.

                    P.S. as a new user I am limited to only being able to post every 120 seconds... which is frustrating! Sorry for the delays in replying 😆

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                    • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

                      @Rob-Verhoeff
                      Thanks Rob. All the waypoints were made through MRA web, searching for locations. I thought they were all on road locations. I will take a close look again.

                      P.S. as a new user I am limited to only being able to post every 120 seconds... which is frustrating! Sorry for the delays in replying 😆

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                      #16

                      @Tom-Grzelinski That delay will pass. I strongly advise you to still break down the route into manageable segments and make sure all waypoints are placed precisely on top of the route line. I wouldn't have much confidence in your approach otherwise. Also, take a look at the support section for a guide on creating a multi-day trip. By the way, there are very helpful videos on this topic circulating on YouTube. Good luck!

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                      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                        @Tom-Grzelinski That delay will pass. I strongly advise you to still break down the route into manageable segments and make sure all waypoints are placed precisely on top of the route line. I wouldn't have much confidence in your approach otherwise. Also, take a look at the support section for a guide on creating a multi-day trip. By the way, there are very helpful videos on this topic circulating on YouTube. Good luck!

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                        #17

                        @Rob-Verhoeff
                        Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

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                        • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

                          @Rob-Verhoeff
                          Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

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                          @Tom-Grzelinski said in Newbie needs help opening HERE map in app...:

                          @Rob-Verhoeff
                          Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

                          There's a 'Split' option available to Gold users - it's in the Toolkit menu. A lifesaver after putting all that effort in!

                          All you have to do is select the waypoints where you want to split the route up. It won't overwrite your existing route, so you can experiment without risk.

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                          • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

                            @Rob-Verhoeff
                            Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

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                            @Tom-Grzelinski I tried splitting your route in half and then half again. In each case the route loads but failed when attempting to navigate. I took a look at the last section of your route, the Waypoints are generally fine but it appears you may be dealing with closed roads. See below red sections. I had the traffic layer turned on.
                            EuroTrip Mk5 (2) (1).JPG

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                            • Tom Grzelinskiundefined Tom Grzelinski

                              @Rob-Verhoeff
                              Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

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                              @Tom-Grzelinski I did a little more testing. I'm not able to open the entire map but I split the map into two half's and I'm able to open each half. I'm also able to start navigation as long as I quickly turn off the option to navigate from current location (can't navigate from Canada 😊 ). So the end result is that I don't know why the app can't open the entire route ... other than it is simply too large. I had a similar problem when planning a 2 week trip. Once I was finished planning on the Web site I split into separate routes for each day. Good luck.

                              Screenshot_20230808-143117.jpg

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                              • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                @Tom-Grzelinski said in Newbie needs help opening HERE map in app...:

                                @Rob-Verhoeff
                                Again, thanks Rob, I will look at multi-day trips.

                                There's a 'Split' option available to Gold users - it's in the Toolkit menu. A lifesaver after putting all that effort in!

                                All you have to do is select the waypoints where you want to split the route up. It won't overwrite your existing route, so you can experiment without risk.

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                                @richtea999
                                Hi Rich, THANK YOU. This worked perfectly 👍
                                Tom

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                                • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                                  @Tom-Grzelinski I did a little more testing. I'm not able to open the entire map but I split the map into two half's and I'm able to open each half. I'm also able to start navigation as long as I quickly turn off the option to navigate from current location (can't navigate from Canada 😊 ). So the end result is that I don't know why the app can't open the entire route ... other than it is simply too large. I had a similar problem when planning a 2 week trip. Once I was finished planning on the Web site I split into separate routes for each day. Good luck.

                                  Screenshot_20230808-143117.jpg

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                                  @Doug-Robinson
                                  Doug, thank you so much. I successfully SPLIT my route in to 13 days and each one opens perfectly in the iPhone app.

                                  I am indeed navigating a lot of Apline passes that are often closed. I am hoping that going in September will mean I can do all the passes I intend to, but I have seen photos that there is already snow on the Grossglockner Pass!

                                  Tom

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                                    The more I use MRA, the more impressed I am. Well done to the team MRA 👍

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                                      The more I use MRA, the more impressed I am. Well done to the team MRA 👍

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                                      @Tom-Grzelinski we keep pushing 💪

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