When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual

[Cleo]

A toggle will be helpfull and don't use only for my designed routes but also voor simple a to b

[M. Schrijver]

I think i agree with Cleo.
When a route ends, it simply ends.
For me there are 2 reasons why a route ends

• I arrived at my destination. A hotel, restaurant, etc.
• The route ends somewhere and from there i will ride straight to home.

First reason. If your're there, you're there. Do you need MRA to navigate you to a seat for eating or drinking?
You could probably add a suggestion for a nearby parking.

Mainly the second reason is why i agree with Cleo.
When the route stops just somewhere and I drive straight to home. The navigation will be nagging me to turn around.

I've discussed this before.
For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
I'm very simple with this.

I start a route and start driving. Once driving I try the best i can to follow the route. When this is not possible, it is the navigations job to find a solution as fast and good as possible. Without me need to push anything on the screen. This includes automatic skipping shaping points as much as necessary.
This is the part where TomTom Go really shines. The Riders not so much because they are too slow in calculations.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@M-Schrijver but you can just quit the navigation when you parked your car No need to do while driving.

Not stopping navigation means you can just ignore it but if navigation is stopped and you do need to use it, you need a lot more actions / interactions with your phone before you can continue

[Cleo]

@Corjan-Meijerink Why do the stop manual? That’s an extra step, even to step because you have to confirm that want to stop.
Why do something by hand if you can automate it? A toggle switch will do.

[M. Schrijver]

@Corjan-Meijerink
I use MRA on Android Auto on my Motorcycle which doesn't have a touch screen. I need the arrow buttons for it. It cost me at least 5 seconds eyes off the road to select the option to cancel the route. Which is not safe
The smartphone is out of reach. What typical is when using Android Auto or Apple Carplay.

Besides that. Routes rarely ends on parkings ,etc Mostly just somewhere on a road.

[Lynchy67]

@M-Schrijver

I am not familiar with Android Auto (or Car Play) but surely if you are about to cancel the Route anyway, why wouldn’t you just stop and cancel the Route on the phone?
Surely that’s a safer option?

[M. Schrijver]

You mean stop on middle of the road, take the phone out of my trunk, backpack or whatever to push a cancel button???

I don't see the logic of that.

[Jörgen]

Why do you need to stop in the middle of the road and switch off navigation?
Leave it running and search for a parking place.

[Drabslab]

@Corjan-Meijerink

These kind of things are not worth discussing because the simple solution is to have an option button so everybody can set it the way they want it.

[M. Schrijver]

@Jörgen
It is just about the principal.
When a route ends, it ends. Simple as it can be.

I can understand if the navigation suggest an extra route to a parking place at the end of the route.

It has already been suggested twice here. Let the user choose.

I understand. I lot of options/toggles does not make the software user friendly. It is a real art to create a piece of software which suits a big group.

[Con Hennekens]

@M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
I'm very simple with this.

For safety reasons: you don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding, when you had to pass your destination but had no method of safe stopping or parking. My routes are not over until I say so... I'm very simple with this

@Cleo said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

Why do the stop manual? That’s an extra step

It is a lot more extra steps if you need to restart the route manually while riding.

@M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

It has already been suggested twice here. Let the user choose.

Two suggestions are not mainstream. And maybe some users need to be protected against themselves?

[Jörgen]

The topic has already been discussed in detail in the past, and the decision was not made for an automatic stop.
I think there are more important issues at the moment.

[Bart De Medts]

@Jörgen Exact

[M. Schrijver]

@Con-Hennekens said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

And maybe some users need to be protected against themselves?

Indeed. That's why it is important a route stops when it ends
I've seen what happens when people who are not familiar enough with navigation. They just ride and follow the navigation and keep on riding in circles.
When navigation stops on your endpoint. You know are there where you want or need to be.

@Con-Hennekens said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

It is a lot more extra steps if you need to restart the route manually while riding.

I don't get this one. Like i said a route ends when it's end. Normally that's on a location where you want or need to be. Why do you need to start the navigation again on that location?

[M. Schrijver]

@Jörgen said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

I think there are more important issues at the moment.

Yes, a proper recalculation procedure. The current one is not good enough.

[M. Schrijver]

Just a question to be sure.

Are we talking about stopping the navigation at the end of the route or somewhere halfway for a lunchstop e.g.?

[Con Hennekens]

@M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

I don't get this one.

indeed

[Corjan Meijerink]

@M-Schrijver if you are unsatisfied with the waypoint skip algorithm, you can turn it off

No harm in providing feedback but do know that’s why it can be turned on / off on user preference.

[Daryl Saunders Qld Australia]

Not sure if this belongs in this topic or a new.

I find Cancelling Navigation too many confirms.

1. Tap ... at bottom right.
2. Stop Navigation at top of list.
3. Confirm Stop Navigation. and if you are not quick enough it disappears.
4. Resume navigation? NO

By this time if I haven't had an accident it's a miracle!

Google Map tap X bottom left. Couldn't be simpler!

Put an X above speed icon.

I am using Android 13.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Daryl-Saunders-Qld-Australia it could be way less options, that’s correct.

However, let me tell you why.
You don’t have to stop the navigation while driving is at the center of that all.
If you are still driving, why even bother stopping it.

Last week I was driving by car in The Hague city center. Lots of one way streets, blocked roads, road works and traffic

While using Google Maps, I was near my destination but on the wrong side of the street. Trams drive in between the road sides so you can’t just cross. The app however thought I was there so it stopped the navigation.
I had to drive another kilometer to get to the other side through one way streets. No clue how to go.

Restarting the navigation was a bitch. Tapping search, getting latest search, clicking it, loading, press start.

By this time if I haven’t had an accident it’s a miracle!

Now I am approaching my destination, guess what: no parking. Google Maps however stopped again.
Same procedure to restart.

At this point I wish that the Google Maps app would not stop navigation so aggressively.

End of story: our users drive long and complicated routes. On a bike with gloves. The last thing you need is having to force selecting your destination again. Either because you reached the destination falsely or you (or a drop of rain) accidentally touched the stop button

Simply stop the navigation yourself when you are so sure you arrived. This is usually when you undo your seatbelt or put your sidestand down

That’s the rationale