Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Support
  • MyRoute-app
Collapse
Brand Logo

MRA Community Forum

  1. Home
  2. Announcements
  3. MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard

MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Announcements
87 Posts 27 Posters 20.2k Views 10 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • undefined Dae 0
    28 Feb 2023, 10:44

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

    The same page can be used to view the keymappings MyRoute-app uses.
    It's as follows:

    Map (home) screen:

    • +/- zoom in / out
    • arrow keys panning
    • n open drawer
    • c cycle center state
    • d (long press n) start opened route if available

    Routing screen:

    • +/- zoom in / out
    • arrow keys panning
    • n toggle “from current location”
    • c start navigation
    • d (long press n) cancel routing

    Turn by turn screen (navigation):

    • +/- zoom in / out
    • arrow keys panning
    • n open drawer
    • c cycle center state
    • d (long press n) skip waypoint

    Drawer (menu):

    • arrow keys move focus
    • c selected focussed element
    • n close drawer

    Is there any plan to allow users to change the keys associated with events?

    I ask because the WunderLINQ device sends Up/Down/Left/Right/Enter/Escape. Being able to change the mappings potentially allows those with BMWs to use the built in nav wheel rather than adding a set of physical buttons which duplicate the existing handlebar controls.

    undefined Offline
    undefined Offline
    Corjan Meijerink
    Developer
    wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 11:27 last edited by
    #4

    @Dae-0 Wunderlinq is definitely planned. We aim to support multiple keymappings eventually.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • undefined Offline
      undefined Offline
      Jure Sirena 0
      wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 14:11 last edited by Jure Sirena 0
      #5

      I drive same bike as you as you know Corjan, it is always challenging to find place on the wheel for everything, and this bike is bad at this. My feeling (will take survey) is not positive as I personaly dont like this items on bike - simple reason - more you have, more will be distractive. There's phones, Gopros, etc etc.
      It is going into direction of BMW wheel / jogger which I tried also.

      You are listing here tons of functionalities to play during ride, as I like myself I will say no to it 🙂

      There are always positives and negatives for sure, but my oppinion spending lot of time on bike is navigation should be managed only at stop, so set it up, click GO and it should work till next point you want (stop, destination or similar). Its why I also like very much the Carplay, its just a screen navigating you, with limited options - the most necessary
      Also when riding in all conditions or long journeys phone does not come in handy - in cold, rain, hot, they tent to have problems, or you need ponchos etc etc, so dedicated moto navigation device is still prefered.
      I guess this combination is very good for daily or short ride

      I guess what would be interesting is a very very minimal device with 2 buttons only, maybe 3 - +/- for zoom in / out (this is most used while navigating) and third one to maybe toggle between sound / screen the rest just +/-. that would be interesting

      challenging question: Almost all bikes support BT connectivity with on board commands, is it so different from bike to bike to have it integrated in app?

      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 28 Feb 2023, 15:15
      0
      • undefined Jure Sirena 0
        28 Feb 2023, 14:11

        I drive same bike as you as you know Corjan, it is always challenging to find place on the wheel for everything, and this bike is bad at this. My feeling (will take survey) is not positive as I personaly dont like this items on bike - simple reason - more you have, more will be distractive. There's phones, Gopros, etc etc.
        It is going into direction of BMW wheel / jogger which I tried also.

        You are listing here tons of functionalities to play during ride, as I like myself I will say no to it 🙂

        There are always positives and negatives for sure, but my oppinion spending lot of time on bike is navigation should be managed only at stop, so set it up, click GO and it should work till next point you want (stop, destination or similar). Its why I also like very much the Carplay, its just a screen navigating you, with limited options - the most necessary
        Also when riding in all conditions or long journeys phone does not come in handy - in cold, rain, hot, they tent to have problems, or you need ponchos etc etc, so dedicated moto navigation device is still prefered.
        I guess this combination is very good for daily or short ride

        I guess what would be interesting is a very very minimal device with 2 buttons only, maybe 3 - +/- for zoom in / out (this is most used while navigating) and third one to maybe toggle between sound / screen the rest just +/-. that would be interesting

        challenging question: Almost all bikes support BT connectivity with on board commands, is it so different from bike to bike to have it integrated in app?

        undefined Offline
        undefined Offline
        Con Hennekens
        Alpha tester
        wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 15:15 last edited by
        #6

        @Jure-Sirena-0 said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

        what would be interesting is a very very minimal device with 2 buttons only, maybe 3 - +/- for zoom in / out (this is most used while navigating) and third one to maybe toggle between sound / screen

        The beauty of BarButtons is that if you get the DIY pack (free!) you can built whatever you like for yourself, for just a few bucks on some cheap parts. Just design a case with less buttons if you like that.
        I agree that playing with buttons on your bike is unsafe, but I still think it is safer then what you often see happening: playing without buttons, on the screen, to attempt to get things done. Especially while riding in groups, you don't want to pull over for each waypoint to skip, or to up/down the volume. Having a button for that is A LOT safer than trying that on screen.
        Besides1: The buttons are also very handy to use while standing still WITHOUT the need to take off gloves.
        Besides2: it is not obligatory to use 😉

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • undefined Offline
          undefined Offline
          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
          wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 15:23 last edited by Corjan Meijerink
          #7

          BarButtons also experimented with a minimal version! 😉

          b7683ca7-d0e9-498b-aee4-005111fbfc2b.png

          665b0f24-e58c-45b4-9a14-acc0ed734088.png

          It's all work in progress and a ongoing process!
          We are excited to share the current progress and look forward to the community input.

          undefined undefined 2 Replies Last reply 28 Feb 2023, 15:57
          3
          • undefined Corjan Meijerink
            28 Feb 2023, 15:23

            BarButtons also experimented with a minimal version! 😉

            b7683ca7-d0e9-498b-aee4-005111fbfc2b.png

            665b0f24-e58c-45b4-9a14-acc0ed734088.png

            It's all work in progress and a ongoing process!
            We are excited to share the current progress and look forward to the community input.

            undefined Offline
            undefined Offline
            Jure Sirena 0
            wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 15:57 last edited by
            #8

            @Corjan-Meijerink That seems a very good concept

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • undefined Offline
              undefined Offline
              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 20:53 last edited by
              #9
              This post is deleted!
              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 1 Mar 2023, 21:04
              0
              • undefined Con Hennekens
                1 Mar 2023, 20:53

                This post is deleted!

                undefined Offline
                undefined Offline
                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 21:04 last edited by
                #10

                To reply to myself: I found it...
                Button one in keymap 3 seems to send a "=" not a "+"
                I'll notify Joost.

                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 1 Mar 2023, 22:56
                0
                • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                  28 Feb 2023, 09:54

                  Hi everybody! 👋

                  We are currently working very hard on the Navigation Next Beta.
                  For those seeking more information, check out: https://mranavigationnext.app/

                  With nearly 1500 Beta testers we are receiving a huge amount of positive feedback and we are continuously improving the app. In the Beta update of this week we included:

                  • Offline maps
                  • Dark mode in Navigation
                  • Waypoint list
                  • Support for bluetooth keyboard input

                  Do you want access to the Beta? Simply purchase Navigation Next in the shop and you'll be granted access too! 🎉

                  The reason for this post is to elaborate a bit more on the app's connectivity features. This Beta is the first iteration of allowing bluetooth 'keyboards' to communicate with our app!

                  One of the main frustrations for motorcyclists is that controlling an app while driving can be difficult, if not dangerous. Winter gloves, rain or small buttons are the main causes for such frustrations.

                  Two weeks ago, we met with the inventor of BarButtons (https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/) to see if a simple integration with MyRoute-app would be possible. It turns out - this was the case 💪

                  196a926d-c0c7-4549-8d9c-24849c249833.png

                  In the first iteration - available now in the NavNext Beta 😏 - you can already control the app using this device! Check out a live demo by me here: https://youtu.be/YH_JCfabwI0

                  b11c43ac-b6b7-480a-82b6-de94f873d90b.png

                  We are very curious about your opinion about such a device! MRA might be able to create a custom branded premium version. The image below does not in any way reflect a definitive product - just a small mockup with custom branding and a joystick rather than a D-pad 😉

                  Please complete this survey so we can get more useful information from our community! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SMRXGTM

                  870a3c5b-5119-4a3d-bdf4-33376e66c32a.png

                  Is this exclusive to MyRoute-app? Not at all! The BarButtons can already be used by quite some other apps. For a full list, see this page: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/compatible-applications/

                  The same page can be used to view the keymappings MyRoute-app uses.
                  It's as follows:

                  Map (home) screen:

                  • +/- zoom in / out
                  • arrow keys panning
                  • n open drawer
                  • c cycle center state
                  • d (long press n) start opened route if available

                  Routing screen:

                  • +/- zoom in / out
                  • arrow keys panning
                  • n toggle “from current location”
                  • c start navigation
                  • d (long press n) cancel routing

                  Turn by turn screen (navigation):

                  • +/- zoom in / out
                  • arrow keys panning
                  • n open drawer
                  • c cycle center state
                  • d (long press n) skip waypoint

                  Drawer (menu):

                  • arrow keys move focus
                  • c selected focussed element
                  • n close drawer

                  A large part of the app is fully compatible / traversable using just these controls! However, some menu's still require actual screen interaction. In a future iteration, we will make sure those issues are resolved 😃

                  If you, as individual or company, want to get in touch about bluetooth compatibility with MyRoute-app - reach on corjan@myrouteapp.com. Any bluetooth connected device (iOS & Android) emitting the supported keyboard event will work!

                  Do you want to get a pair of BarButtons? Contact them on https://jaxeadv.com/contact/ and mention MyRoute-app 😉

                  Youtube demo: https://youtu.be/YH_JCfabwI0
                  Survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SMRXGTM

                  Best,
                  Team MRA

                  undefined Offline
                  undefined Offline
                  Steve Lynch
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 21:11 last edited by
                  #11

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  You can count me in for the Branded MRA Version. 👍 😁

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • undefined Offline
                    undefined Offline
                    Con Hennekens
                    Alpha tester
                    wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 22:42 last edited by
                    #12

                    To reply again on myself 😉
                    Joost informed me that BarButtons needs the preview of V3 firmware to work with MRA. After upgrading the firmware I can completely work along with @Corjan-Meijerink's great demo.

                    I found 2 problems though:

                    • Through the buttons I can open the drawer and navigate to the routes menu. from there buttons don't work, so you cannot select a route.
                    • The new menu's that are introduced in this last beta update, can also not be navigated by buttons.

                    I deleted my previous post with the keymaps, because they will only bring confusion.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • undefined Con Hennekens
                      1 Mar 2023, 21:04

                      To reply to myself: I found it...
                      Button one in keymap 3 seems to send a "=" not a "+"
                      I'll notify Joost.

                      undefined Offline
                      undefined Offline
                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 22:56 last edited by
                      #13

                      @Con-Hennekens I believe our BarButtons run the preview version! https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/barbuttons-user-guide-preview/

                      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 1 Mar 2023, 23:01
                      0
                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                        1 Mar 2023, 22:56

                        @Con-Hennekens I believe our BarButtons run the preview version! https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/barbuttons-user-guide-preview/

                        undefined Offline
                        undefined Offline
                        Con Hennekens
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on 1 Mar 2023, 23:01 last edited by
                        #14

                        @Corjan-Meijerink, yes, that must be so. But exactly the points I made, you left them out of the review 😉 It doesn't work on my side, I assume it will not work on yours.

                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 2 Mar 2023, 06:29
                        0
                        • undefined Con Hennekens
                          1 Mar 2023, 23:01

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, yes, that must be so. But exactly the points I made, you left them out of the review 😉 It doesn't work on my side, I assume it will not work on yours.

                          undefined Offline
                          undefined Offline
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote on 2 Mar 2023, 06:29 last edited by
                          #15

                          @Con-Hennekens good point! 🙂

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • undefined Offline
                            undefined Offline
                            Jack van Tilburg
                            wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 13:22 last edited by
                            #16

                            Relive the good old times 👍 🙂

                            streetpilot2720.jpg

                            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 13:44
                            2
                            • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                              3 Mar 2023, 13:22

                              Relive the good old times 👍 🙂

                              streetpilot2720.jpg

                              undefined Offline
                              undefined Offline
                              Corjan Meijerink
                              Developer
                              wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 13:44 last edited by
                              #17

                              @Jack-van-Tilburg Wow! That's a nice relic 🙂

                              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 13:55
                              3
                              • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                3 Mar 2023, 13:44

                                @Jack-van-Tilburg Wow! That's a nice relic 🙂

                                undefined Offline
                                undefined Offline
                                Con Hennekens
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 13:55 last edited by
                                #18

                                @Corjan-Meijerink, take a look at the SPEAK button. It repeats the last voice instruction 😉 I knew i did not think that up myself, when suggesting a similar feature 🤣

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • undefined Offline
                                  undefined Offline
                                  Maicro
                                  wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 16:22 last edited by Maicro 3 Mar 2023, 16:23
                                  #19

                                  When I saw the video yesterday: https://youtu.be/YH_JCfabwI0

                                  The first thing I said: Oh my god! 💗 💗 💗

                                  This is what I have always longed to have to control MRA and not have to touch the screen.

                                  I was actually going to purchase it but, after reading this thread, I have my doubts. The minimalist version looks wonderful.

                                  Must-haves for me:
                                  -Skip next Waypoint
                                  -Zoom.

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink, please what do you advise, wait for your version or buy it now?

                                  Thank you very much for your excellent work.

                                  undefined 1 Reply Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 20:20
                                  1
                                  • undefined Offline
                                    undefined Offline
                                    Jörgen
                                    Valued contributor
                                    wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 19:03 last edited by
                                    #20

                                    Same for me, I would like to get it asap, but not sure to buy now or to wait? What is the recommendation?

                                    Hardware
                                    iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                                    Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                                    Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                    Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                    Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                    For more information, click here

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • undefined Maicro
                                      3 Mar 2023, 16:22

                                      When I saw the video yesterday: https://youtu.be/YH_JCfabwI0

                                      The first thing I said: Oh my god! 💗 💗 💗

                                      This is what I have always longed to have to control MRA and not have to touch the screen.

                                      I was actually going to purchase it but, after reading this thread, I have my doubts. The minimalist version looks wonderful.

                                      Must-haves for me:
                                      -Skip next Waypoint
                                      -Zoom.

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink, please what do you advise, wait for your version or buy it now?

                                      Thank you very much for your excellent work.

                                      undefined Offline
                                      undefined Offline
                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      Developer
                                      wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 20:20 last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @Maicro Happy to hear your enthusiasm! 🙂 This is exactly why we are looking into these integrations.

                                      To answer your questions (and @Jörgen), given the price I’d buy it now if you are enthusiastic. The product might be redesigned or get a custom branding but feature wise it won’t change a lot!

                                      @Maicro skipping waypoint is possible already! See demo video. It’s a long press on a button. Zooming works too! However when navigating the camera stops following you when you changed the zoom. This is however a feature that will be added in the app! 😉

                                      undefined undefined undefined 3 Replies Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 20:41
                                      1
                                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                        3 Mar 2023, 20:20

                                        @Maicro Happy to hear your enthusiasm! 🙂 This is exactly why we are looking into these integrations.

                                        To answer your questions (and @Jörgen), given the price I’d buy it now if you are enthusiastic. The product might be redesigned or get a custom branding but feature wise it won’t change a lot!

                                        @Maicro skipping waypoint is possible already! See demo video. It’s a long press on a button. Zooming works too! However when navigating the camera stops following you when you changed the zoom. This is however a feature that will be added in the app! 😉

                                        undefined Offline
                                        undefined Offline
                                        Ronni
                                        wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 20:41 last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                        The product might be redesigned...

                                        I have seen the pics with the smaller versions, which i would prefer. Did you get any Informations about an Release date? I definitely want to use this keyboard this season.

                                        greetings
                                        Ronni

                                        Die Linke zum Gruße / Greetings from the Left

                                        Samsung Galaxy A54 5G - Android 14 - One UI-Version 6.0
                                        Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 - Android 9 - One UI-Version 1.1
                                        Samsung Chronos Laptop - Intel I7, 2,3 GHz - 8GB RAM - 64 bit - Windows 10 Pro - 22H2

                                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 20:50
                                        0
                                        • undefined Ronni
                                          3 Mar 2023, 20:41

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                          The product might be redesigned...

                                          I have seen the pics with the smaller versions, which i would prefer. Did you get any Informations about an Release date? I definitely want to use this keyboard this season.

                                          greetings
                                          Ronni

                                          undefined Offline
                                          undefined Offline
                                          Corjan Meijerink
                                          Developer
                                          wrote on 3 Mar 2023, 20:50 last edited by
                                          #23

                                          @Ronni we don’t have any information about this. It’s all about prototyping and brainstorming now 🙂
                                          However, if there would be a MRA branded version, I’d guess that will be available around the release of the the app.

                                          undefined undefined 3 Replies Last reply 3 Mar 2023, 21:19
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes

                                          13/87

                                          1 Mar 2023, 22:56

                                          74 unread

                                          • 1
                                          • 2
                                          • 3
                                          • 4
                                          • 5
                                          ACTIVE USERS
                                          RetiredWingManundefined
                                          RetiredWingMan
                                          about 2 hours ago
                                          undefined
                                          Corjan Meijerink
                                          about 3 hours ago
                                          Nick Carthewundefined
                                          Nick Carthew
                                          about 7 hours ago
                                          undefined
                                          Con Hennekens
                                          about 13 hours ago
                                          Hubert Thoringundefined
                                          Hubert Thoring
                                          about 17 hours ago
                                          undefined
                                          Jörgen
                                          a day ago
                                          undefined
                                          G.Grote Ganseij
                                          6 days ago
                                          undefined
                                          Jack van Tilburg
                                          22 May 2025, 08:28
                                          Drabslabundefined
                                          Drabslab
                                          21 May 2025, 08:14
                                          undefined
                                          Dae 0
                                          19 May 2025, 20:28
                                          richtea999undefined
                                          richtea999
                                          15 May 2025, 10:57
                                          Pletseundefined
                                          Pletse
                                          6 Mar 2025, 22:57
                                          undefined
                                          Mark Hamilton 0
                                          27 Jan 2025, 17:13
                                          undefined
                                          Paul Pals
                                          2 Jan 2025, 13:09
                                          undefined
                                          Vlad Popovici 0
                                          2 Nov 2024, 10:51
                                          undefined
                                          Steve Lynch
                                          12 Oct 2024, 10:18
                                          undefined
                                          Mork 0
                                          31 Aug 2024, 16:54
                                          undefined
                                          Eric Minschart
                                          2 Jun 2024, 20:30
                                          undefined
                                          Ronni
                                          10 Apr 2024, 20:38
                                          undefined
                                          Jure Sirena 0
                                          31 Oct 2023, 23:44
                                          undefined
                                          Maicro
                                          24 Sept 2023, 17:36
                                          undefined
                                          Sanders Johnny 1
                                          19 Sept 2023, 12:01
                                          undefined
                                          Devezon Eric
                                          28 Aug 2023, 15:46
                                          Ninundefined
                                          Nin
                                          4 Jul 2023, 12:14
                                          POPULAR TOPICS
                                          • Arrow behind the actual position on Android Auto
                                            undefined
                                            Corjan Meijerink
                                            about 3 hours ago
                                            0
                                            7
                                            138

                                          • MRA-Routeplanner - distance simulation
                                            Guzzistundefined
                                            Guzzist
                                            about 7 hours ago
                                            0
                                            7
                                            89

                                          • Should Pixel 8, Android Auto and Android 16 Work?
                                            undefined
                                            M. Schrijver
                                            about 8 hours ago
                                            0
                                            5
                                            81

                                          • Herberekenen loopt vast
                                            undefined
                                            Bouke Ent
                                            about 16 hours ago
                                            0
                                            29
                                            694

                                          • How can friends view my routes?
                                            RetiredWingManundefined
                                            RetiredWingMan
                                            about 2 hours ago
                                            0
                                            3
                                            17

                                          • Scrolling Through Waypoints
                                            Stefan Hummelinkundefined
                                            Stefan Hummelink
                                            about 5 hours ago
                                            0
                                            14
                                            245

                                          • Is it possible to view multiple routes from my library at the same time?
                                            Nick Carthewundefined
                                            Nick Carthew
                                            about 7 hours ago
                                            0
                                            3
                                            53

                                          • Stuttering menu after 4.4.0 update ?
                                            Adrian Avramundefined
                                            Adrian Avram
                                            about 7 hours ago
                                            0
                                            3
                                            49
                                          MY GROUPS
                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          1 / 5
                                          • First post
                                            13/87
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Popular
                                          • Support
                                          • MyRoute-app