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@Corjan-Meijerink Within a mapping application, I don't need to control volume. My volume control when riding is my Cardo. My phone is full volume all the time on the bike (ear plugs)
@Matt-Flaming Thanks for the explanation
I do think this wouldn’t be a general solution for all but might be a preference for some! -
@Matt-Flaming Thanks for the explanation
I do think this wouldn’t be a general solution for all but might be a preference for some!@Corjan-Meijerink Maybe, like zumo XT, each rider can configer a number of buttons on the screen. So he select the buttons he would like.
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Because the display on a satnav is necessarily a close up view it is sometimes difficult to sense where you are and how far along the route. Therefore most systems have an overview feature.
I have attached a couple of screenshots of how this feature works in Sygic, as a good example. The overview button (bottom left) is activated by a single press, which brings up a new screen with an overview of the whole route, also showing your position. The route can be returned to by selecting the ‘Re-Centre” button or automatically after about 15secs.
I think is an essential feature.
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Because the display on a satnav is necessarily a close up view it is sometimes difficult to sense where you are and how far along the route. Therefore most systems have an overview feature.
I have attached a couple of screenshots of how this feature works in Sygic, as a good example. The overview button (bottom left) is activated by a single press, which brings up a new screen with an overview of the whole route, also showing your position. The route can be returned to by selecting the ‘Re-Centre” button or automatically after about 15secs.
I think is an essential feature.
@David-Bonner Cool, thanks!
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One thing that would solve a lot of these issues is to support keyboard control.
Those of us with BMWs and Wunderlinq could then use the handlebar wheel to zoom in and out and navigate around the app. Those without could use a remote Bluetooth control (the ones with up/down/left/right/enter)
I really hope Wunderlinq support comes to the app as it would be a game chargers and requires very little in terms of development to implement
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One thing that would solve a lot of these issues is to support keyboard control.
Those of us with BMWs and Wunderlinq could then use the handlebar wheel to zoom in and out and navigate around the app. Those without could use a remote Bluetooth control (the ones with up/down/left/right/enter)
I really hope Wunderlinq support comes to the app as it would be a game chargers and requires very little in terms of development to implement
@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
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@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
@Corjan-Meijerink wow, do you mean some generic ones, not related to BMW etc?
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@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
@Corjan-Meijerink said in Show Route and Zoom Options:
@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
Full Wunderlinq or just the basic cursor etc?
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@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
@Corjan-Meijerink said in Show Route and Zoom Options:
@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
Can you please support the Carpe Iter controllers? I can put you in touch with the developer if you need more details.
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@Stanisław @Dae-0 @Matt-Flaming Wow! That took off
We are currently investigating the support of generic keyboard mappings. This to support Wunderlinq and other devices that emit wireless keyboard instructions. One example is barbuttons, we met last week with their person - https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/
Current development plans such as offline maps and CarPlay require our focus but this is something fun on the side
Small teaser:
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@Corjan-Meijerink said in Show Route and Zoom Options:
@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
Can you please support the Carpe Iter controllers? I can put you in touch with the developer if you need more details.
@Matt-Flaming Feel free to! corjan@myrouteapp.com is the email to share
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@Matt-Flaming Feel free to! corjan@myrouteapp.com is the email to share
Much appreciated!@Corjan-Meijerink said in Show Route and Zoom Options:
@Matt-Flaming Feel free to! corjan@myrouteapp.com is the email to share
Much appreciated!Thanks. I've sent your email to the dev and asked him to contact you.
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@Stanisław @Dae-0 @Matt-Flaming Wow! That took off
We are currently investigating the support of generic keyboard mappings. This to support Wunderlinq and other devices that emit wireless keyboard instructions. One example is barbuttons, we met last week with their person - https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/
Current development plans such as offline maps and CarPlay require our focus but this is something fun on the side
Small teaser:
@Corjan-Meijerink I’m making some room on my handlebars for the new PlayStation controller
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@Dae-0 Keyboard controls are coming!
@Corjan-Meijerink we use the BMW WonderWheel with MotoMedia Link (similar to WunderLinq), Tasker and AutoInput to control Next (zoom, skip waypoints, record tracks, stop navigating, etc). @b0hd1 and me are developing this.
It would be incredible if we could have access to the api vía intents that everybody could use, for example, with Tasker -
@Corjan-Meijerink we use the BMW WonderWheel with MotoMedia Link (similar to WunderLinq), Tasker and AutoInput to control Next (zoom, skip waypoints, record tracks, stop navigating, etc). @b0hd1 and me are developing this.
It would be incredible if we could have access to the api vía intents that everybody could use, for example, with Tasker@bluetuz yes we know!
Been in contact with @b0hd1 before. Feel free to reach out on corjan@myrouteapp.com -
@bluetuz yes we know!
Been in contact with @b0hd1 before. Feel free to reach out on corjan@myrouteapp.com@Corjan-Meijerink Would these developments be able to be implemented in iOS as most are currently Android centric I think?
Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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@Corjan-Meijerink Would these developments be able to be implemented in iOS as most are currently Android centric I think?
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Hi @Dave-J-0 I don’t agree with making changes to the app just to make it easier to use while on the move.
As you know, in the UK and it’s probably the same in the EU, it's illegal to hold and use a phone, sat nav, tablet, or any device that can send or receive data, while driving or riding a motorcycle.I’m not a copper
but I have had more than enough ‘too close for comfort’ encounters with drivers in tin boxes on their phone.Yes, make it as glove friendly as possible. But I think the app should be optimised to be the very best that it can be without the possible restrictions that could be imposed just to make it easier to use while on the move.
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Hi @Dave-J-0 I don’t agree with making changes to the app just to make it easier to use while on the move.
As you know, in the UK and it’s probably the same in the EU, it's illegal to hold and use a phone, sat nav, tablet, or any device that can send or receive data, while driving or riding a motorcycle.I’m not a copper
but I have had more than enough ‘too close for comfort’ encounters with drivers in tin boxes on their phone.Yes, make it as glove friendly as possible. But I think the app should be optimised to be the very best that it can be without the possible restrictions that could be imposed just to make it easier to use while on the move.
@Nick-Carthew said in Show Route and Zoom Options:
Hi @Dave-J-0 I don’t agree with making changes to the app just to make it easier to use while on the move.
As you know, in the UK and it’s probably the same in the EU, it's illegal to hold and use a phone, sat nav, tablet, or any device that can send or receive data, while driving or riding a motorcycle.Yes, make it as glove friendly as possible. But I think the app should be optimised to be the very best that it can be without the possible restrictions that could be imposed just to make it easier to use while on the move.
You are not ‘holding’ the phone. The phone is mounted on a cradle. Touching a phone, which is mounted on a cradle is not illegal.
This from the Government’s website:
Using Using devices hands-free
It’s illegal to hold and use a phone, sat nav, tablet, or any device that can send or receive data, while driving or riding a motorcycle.
This means you must not use a device in your hand for any reason, whether online or offline.
The important words are: hold and in your hand.
The same Government instructions, go on to say:
Using devices hands-free
You can use devices with hands-free access, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Hands-free access means using, for example:
a Bluetooth headset
voice command
a dashboard holder or mat
a windscreen mount
a built-in sat nav
The device must not block your view of the road and traffic ahead.A phone in a cradle on a motorbike is the equivalent of either a windscreen mount and/ or a dashboard holder or mat in a car.
Whether or not a rider of a motorcycle (or indeed a driver of a car) should tap away at either a cradle mounted phone or a cradle mounted GPS device (all whilst retaining control of the vehicle) is another matter entirely. That is down to personal choice, nothing more.
https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
Umpteen Garmin / TomTom GPS units (along with even more phone screen based app’s) allow finger touch alteration of what is displayed on the screen, whilst on the move. These, when mounted as described above, are perfectly legal.
If and when the law is ever changed and it becomes illegal to do so, the manufacturers will be required to patch the software to lock the screen whilst its motion detectors detect movement. Of course this is going to be tricky to implement if the phone is being used by someone riding on say a train or by the passenger in a car, both of whom can hold and operate their phone quite legally.
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@bluetuz yes we know!
Been in contact with @b0hd1 before. Feel free to reach out on corjan@myrouteapp.com@Corjan-Meijerink Another small sample. This time with Samsung active tab 3.
