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  • undefined Jack van Tilburg
    12 Feb 2023, 14:33

    @Silvano-Besana
    There may be changes to the path of your route over time. It is therefore advisable to check the route with the latest maps as available in MRA Planner.

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    Silvano Besana
    wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 14:56 last edited by
    #3

    @Jack-van-Tilburg Grazie per la risposta ma le mappe sono recenti. Sembra proprio che certe strade siano chiuse, come quando i passi alpini sono chiusi per neve.
    Ma se uno utilizza la funzione in oggetto, il tracciato si dovrebbe vedere comunque, ed invece ciò non avviene.

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      Jack van Tilburg
      wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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      Thanks for the reply but the maps are recent. It seems that certain roads are closed, such as when the Alpine passes are closed due to snow.
      But if one uses the function in question, the path should still be visible, but instead this does not happen.

      There can be several reasons for closed roads. For example due to roadworks.
      You can place a link to your route here. Don't forget to set the privacy setting to "Public".
      But please also indicate where the problem can be seen. Preferably with a screenshot and arrows on the deviations.

      Ci possono essere diversi motivi per le strade chiuse. Ad esempio a causa di lavori stradali.
      Puoi inserire un link al tuo percorso qui. Non dimenticare di impostare l'impostazione della privacy su "Pubblico".
      Ma per favore indica anche dove si può vedere il problema. Preferibilmente con uno screenshot e frecce sulle deviazioni.

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      • undefined Jack van Tilburg
        12 Feb 2023, 15:22

        Thanks for the reply but the maps are recent. It seems that certain roads are closed, such as when the Alpine passes are closed due to snow.
        But if one uses the function in question, the path should still be visible, but instead this does not happen.

        There can be several reasons for closed roads. For example due to roadworks.
        You can place a link to your route here. Don't forget to set the privacy setting to "Public".
        But please also indicate where the problem can be seen. Preferably with a screenshot and arrows on the deviations.

        Ci possono essere diversi motivi per le strade chiuse. Ad esempio a causa di lavori stradali.
        Puoi inserire un link al tuo percorso qui. Non dimenticare di impostare l'impostazione della privacy su "Pubblico".
        Ma per favore indica anche dove si può vedere il problema. Preferibilmente con uno screenshot e frecce sulle deviazioni.

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        Silvano Besana
        wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 18:52 last edited by
        #5

        @Jack-van-Tilburg Qui trovi uno screeshot.
        noterai che ci sono tracce mancanti tra dei waypoints, e tracce senza waypoint che sono le deviazioni che il programma ti da in automatico.
        Ma se disabilito le chiusure stagionali, voglio vedere il mio percorso, anche se in quel momento la strada è interrotta oppure se il passo alpino è chiusScreenshot_20230212_193804.png o per neve.

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          Jack van Tilburg
          wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 19:57 last edited by
          #6

          Please give a link to your route as I asked before.

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          • undefined Jack van Tilburg
            12 Feb 2023, 19:57

            Please give a link to your route as I asked before.

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            Silvano Besana
            wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 20:29 last edited by
            #7

            @Jack-van-Tilburg
            Volevi questo? https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/6889530

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            • undefined Silvano Besana
              12 Feb 2023, 20:29

              @Jack-van-Tilburg
              Volevi questo? https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/6889530

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              Jack van Tilburg
              wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 20:38 last edited by
              #8

              @Silvano-Besana
              Sì, è quello che intendo. Ma poi devi impostare l'impostazione "Privacy" su "Pubblico" in modo che io possa aprire il percorso.

              Scherm­afbeelding 2023-02-12 om 21.35.50.png

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              • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                12 Feb 2023, 20:38

                @Silvano-Besana
                Sì, è quello che intendo. Ma poi devi impostare l'impostazione "Privacy" su "Pubblico" in modo che io possa aprire il percorso.

                Scherm­afbeelding 2023-02-12 om 21.35.50.png

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                Silvano Besana
                wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 22:50 last edited by
                #9

                @Jack-van-Tilburg
                Ok l'ho fatto ma tieni presente che ho molti altri percorsi che sono "privati" oppure "amici" . Devo mettere tutti i miei percorsi "pubblici" ?

                Non mi piace molto questa cosa, voglio essere io a decidere chi può vedere i miei percorsi.

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                • undefined Silvano Besana
                  12 Feb 2023, 22:50

                  @Jack-van-Tilburg
                  Ok l'ho fatto ma tieni presente che ho molti altri percorsi che sono "privati" oppure "amici" . Devo mettere tutti i miei percorsi "pubblici" ?

                  Non mi piace molto questa cosa, voglio essere io a decidere chi può vedere i miei percorsi.

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                  Jack van Tilburg
                  wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 07:31 last edited by
                  #10

                  @Silvano-Besana
                  Nel modo in cui ti mostro, rendi pubblico solo il percorso pertinente.

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                  • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                    13 Feb 2023, 07:31

                    @Silvano-Besana
                    Nel modo in cui ti mostro, rendi pubblico solo il percorso pertinente.

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                    Silvano Besana
                    wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 07:46 last edited by
                    #11

                    @Jack-van-Tilburg
                    ok, quindi hai idea del perchè succede questo?

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                    • undefined Silvano Besana
                      13 Feb 2023, 07:46

                      @Jack-van-Tilburg
                      ok, quindi hai idea del perchè succede questo?

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                      Paul Pals
                      wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 08:27 last edited by
                      #12

                      @Silvano-Besana Road work

                      Road work.png

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                      • undefined Silvano Besana
                        13 Feb 2023, 07:46

                        @Jack-van-Tilburg
                        ok, quindi hai idea del perchè succede questo?

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                        Jack van Tilburg
                        wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 08:30 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
                        #13

                        @Silvano-Besana
                        Se attivi il 'Traffico' in <Livelli mappa>, puoi vedere che sono in corso lavori tra i punti 10 e 11 ei punti 14 e 15, per cui sono stati chiusi.
                        Non afferma fino a quando questa situazione dura. Ma potresti riuscire a trovarlo sul WWW.

                        If you activate 'Traffic' in <Map Layers>, you can see that there is work going on between points 10 and 11 and points 14 and 15, so they are closed.
                        It does not state how long this situation lasts. But you may be able to find it on the WWW.

                        Scherm­afbeelding 2023-02-13 om 09.24.53.png

                        Ora puoi reimpostare le impostazioni del tuo percorso su "Privato".

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                        • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                          13 Feb 2023, 08:30

                          @Silvano-Besana
                          Se attivi il 'Traffico' in <Livelli mappa>, puoi vedere che sono in corso lavori tra i punti 10 e 11 ei punti 14 e 15, per cui sono stati chiusi.
                          Non afferma fino a quando questa situazione dura. Ma potresti riuscire a trovarlo sul WWW.

                          If you activate 'Traffic' in <Map Layers>, you can see that there is work going on between points 10 and 11 and points 14 and 15, so they are closed.
                          It does not state how long this situation lasts. But you may be able to find it on the WWW.

                          Scherm­afbeelding 2023-02-13 om 09.24.53.png

                          Ora puoi reimpostare le impostazioni del tuo percorso su "Privato".

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                          Silvano Besana
                          wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 11:03 last edited by
                          #14

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg
                          Sei molto gentile ma a me compare nella finestra OpenStreetMap solamente TomTom Default Gold, tutto il resto non lo vedo e neppure Traffic Gold.
                          Perchè?

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                          • undefined Silvano Besana
                            13 Feb 2023, 11:03

                            @Jack-van-Tilburg
                            Sei molto gentile ma a me compare nella finestra OpenStreetMap solamente TomTom Default Gold, tutto il resto non lo vedo e neppure Traffic Gold.
                            Perchè?

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                            Jack van Tilburg
                            wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 12:11 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
                            #15

                            @Silvano-Besana
                            Se fai clic su questa icona puoi trovare i diversi livelli della mappa.

                            but to me only TomTom Default Gold appears in the OpenStreetMap window, I don't see all the rest and neither does Traffic Gold.
                            Why?

                            If you click on this icon you can find the different layers of the map.

                            Scherm­afbeelding 2023-02-13 om 13.08.56.png

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                            • undefined Silvano Besana
                              13 Feb 2023, 11:03

                              @Jack-van-Tilburg
                              Sei molto gentile ma a me compare nella finestra OpenStreetMap solamente TomTom Default Gold, tutto il resto non lo vedo e neppure Traffic Gold.
                              Perchè?

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                              Jack van Tilburg
                              wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 12:15 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
                              #16

                              @Silvano-Besana

                              In questo articolo di supporto puoi leggere di più sui vari layer della mappa.
                              In inglese. Ma non è complicato.

                              You can read more about the various map layers in this help article.
                              In English. But it's not complicated.

                              Manual 'Map Layers'

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                              • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                                13 Feb 2023, 12:15

                                @Silvano-Besana

                                In questo articolo di supporto puoi leggere di più sui vari layer della mappa.
                                In inglese. Ma non è complicato.

                                You can read more about the various map layers in this help article.
                                In English. But it's not complicated.

                                Manual 'Map Layers'

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                                Silvano Besana
                                wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 16:01 last edited by
                                #17

                                @Jack-van-Tilburg Grazie Jack per il supporto, ora vedo le varie interruzioni del tracciato.
                                A questo punto devo dedurre che non è possibile avere un tracciato come quello che io avevo previsto, se per esempio quella strada al momento è interrotta.
                                Ciò avviene in automatico sia che io abilito o disabilito le chiusure stagionali.
                                E' corretto?

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                                • undefined Silvano Besana
                                  13 Feb 2023, 16:01

                                  @Jack-van-Tilburg Grazie Jack per il supporto, ora vedo le varie interruzioni del tracciato.
                                  A questo punto devo dedurre che non è possibile avere un tracciato come quello che io avevo previsto, se per esempio quella strada al momento è interrotta.
                                  Ciò avviene in automatico sia che io abilito o disabilito le chiusure stagionali.
                                  E' corretto?

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                                  Jack van Tilburg
                                  wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 16:15 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
                                  #18

                                  @Silvano-Besana
                                  In effetti, l'attivazione o la disattivazione della chiusura stagionale non influisce sulle strade chiuse per qualsiasi altro motivo.

                                  Thanks Jack for the support, now I see the various track breaks.
                                  At this point I have to deduce that it is not possible to have a route like the one I had foreseen, if for example that road is currently blocked.
                                  This happens automatically whether I enable or disable seasonal closures.
                                  Is this correct?

                                  In fact, turning seasonal closure on or off doesn't affect roads that are closed for any other reason.

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                                  • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                                    13 Feb 2023, 16:15

                                    @Silvano-Besana
                                    In effetti, l'attivazione o la disattivazione della chiusura stagionale non influisce sulle strade chiuse per qualsiasi altro motivo.

                                    Thanks Jack for the support, now I see the various track breaks.
                                    At this point I have to deduce that it is not possible to have a route like the one I had foreseen, if for example that road is currently blocked.
                                    This happens automatically whether I enable or disable seasonal closures.
                                    Is this correct?

                                    In fact, turning seasonal closure on or off doesn't affect roads that are closed for any other reason.

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                                    Silvano Besana
                                    wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 16:37 last edited by
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                                    @Jack-van-Tilburg Grazie ancora sei stato di grande aiuto.😊 👏 👍

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                                      paul69
                                      wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 10:58 last edited by
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                                      hi,

                                      I must comment, this was an interesting thread, as I had the same problem when I opened my routes later in the year to the Austrian Alps, they had changed, I presumed this was due to road closures etc.
                                      this thread changed to a native language, yes I know I could copy and paste into google translate. but I have no idea if there is a fix, or an answer.

                                      can I ask, when you save a route, there seems to be a possibility that it will change each time you open it.

                                      if I saved the route to a file on my computer and then reimported it at a later date would it be the original or will it change to suit the road closures on that particular day etc.

                                      OR

                                      If I send the saved route to a friend via email, there is a good chance that the original planned route would not be the same.
                                      this is definitely something I will need to be aware of in the future.

                                      this does seem strange, but I imagine it's beyond the fix for the MRA gang.

                                      I do have "disable seasonal closures" ticked

                                      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                                        14 Feb 2023, 10:58

                                        hi,

                                        I must comment, this was an interesting thread, as I had the same problem when I opened my routes later in the year to the Austrian Alps, they had changed, I presumed this was due to road closures etc.
                                        this thread changed to a native language, yes I know I could copy and paste into google translate. but I have no idea if there is a fix, or an answer.

                                        can I ask, when you save a route, there seems to be a possibility that it will change each time you open it.

                                        if I saved the route to a file on my computer and then reimported it at a later date would it be the original or will it change to suit the road closures on that particular day etc.

                                        OR

                                        If I send the saved route to a friend via email, there is a good chance that the original planned route would not be the same.
                                        this is definitely something I will need to be aware of in the future.

                                        this does seem strange, but I imagine it's beyond the fix for the MRA gang.

                                        I do have "disable seasonal closures" ticked

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                                        Jack van Tilburg
                                        wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 11:11 last edited by
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                                        @paul-69
                                        There are indeed all kinds of influences that can change a route. Not just seasonal closures. Roadworks and other temporary measures may be included in the maps (if known to the mapmaker). But the traffic situation on the spot may also have changed permanently.
                                        In addition to the route, I almost always save a track of the route in MRA. This way I can check the route and adjust it as best as possible to the original planning.
                                        If you share routes, you always have to take into account that the recipient may eventually have a different route. For example by using a different type of navigator or different map version.

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                                          14 Feb 2023, 11:11

                                          @paul-69
                                          There are indeed all kinds of influences that can change a route. Not just seasonal closures. Roadworks and other temporary measures may be included in the maps (if known to the mapmaker). But the traffic situation on the spot may also have changed permanently.
                                          In addition to the route, I almost always save a track of the route in MRA. This way I can check the route and adjust it as best as possible to the original planning.
                                          If you share routes, you always have to take into account that the recipient may eventually have a different route. For example by using a different type of navigator or different map version.

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                                          paul69
                                          wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 11:56 last edited by paul69
                                          #22

                                          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Disable seasonal closures:

                                          hi @Jack-van-Tilburg, thanks for quick response,

                                          it is definitely something to be aware of, a planned route may not necessarily be the same when reopened a few weeks later,

                                          In addition to the route, I almost always save a track of the route in MRA

                                          out of interest, excuse my ignorance, how do you automatically save a track to MRA,

                                          when I save a route as .gpx 1.1 (track, POI) it downloads to my computer, I then have to import it back into MRA, where it would then show in "my routes" as a Route-track.
                                          is this the correct way of carrying out this task

                                          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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