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  • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I can check it at my Win10 PC and my iMac pro but I have problems to find the exact location of the missing or not shown road in the map.

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    #43

    @Reinhard-32 https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5364210/mobile#43.58887733921692;17.518429756164554;14///

    On MY Basecamp the Road ist ok 🙂

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      wrote on last edited by Reinhard-32
      #44

      Thanks for sharing the route. I have open the route in BaseCamp on both machines and found no differences. The gravel road is not there.
      Then I checked it at Here maps with the same result: The gravel road is not in the Here / Garmin map.
      When you switch off the track then you can see that the gravel road is not there.

      HERE Map:

      Bildschirmfoto 2021-10-27 um 15.31.54.png

      Map in BaseCamp on IMac with visible red track:

      Bildschirmfoto 2021-10-27 um 15.27.55.png

      Map in BaseCamp on Mac with invisible track:

      Bildschirmfoto 2021-10-27 um 15.28.15.png

      Kindly regards
      Reinhard

      ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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        Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
        Instructor RouteXperts administrator
        wrote on last edited by
        #45

        Same here

        Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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          Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
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          #46

          I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

            I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

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            #47

            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

            https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

            Kindly regards
            Reinhard

            ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

              I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

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              #48

              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

              Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

              Now I have loaded the route on my 595, the calculation works and the route can be started.

              So again checked the Zümo, I do not have OSM maps installed.
              I am now quite confused, thought I understand it after all these years.

              Would Garmin now route me on the route even though it does NOT exist on the map?

              Again, apologies and thanks to all.

              lg Kudee

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              • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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                Nick Carthew
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                #49

                The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

                Always willing to help if I can.
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                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                  The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

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                  #50

                  @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
                  Hope i understand it the right way?
                  lg Kudee

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                  • Kudeeundefined Kudee

                    @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
                    Hope i understand it the right way?
                    lg Kudee

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #51

                    @Kudee I was being funny 😁

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                    • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

                      https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

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                      #52

                      @Reinhard-32

                      In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                      • Steve Lynchundefined Offline
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                        #53

                        If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

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                        • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                          If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

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                          #54

                          @Steve-Lynch OSMand as well 🙄

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                          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                            @Reinhard-32

                            In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

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                            wrote on last edited by Reinhard-32
                            #55

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                            Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                            Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                            What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

                            Kindly regards
                            Reinhard

                            ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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                            • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                              Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                              Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                              What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

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                              Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                              Instructor RouteXperts administrator
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #56

                              @Reinhard-32

                              Thanks

                              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                #57

                                So...
                                Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                                Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                                But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                  So...
                                  Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                                  Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                                  But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

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                                  #58

                                  @Con-Hennekens
                                  Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                                  What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                                  lg Kudee

                                  PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                                  OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

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                                  • Kudeeundefined Kudee

                                    @Con-Hennekens
                                    Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                                    What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                                    lg Kudee

                                    PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                                    OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

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                                    @Kudee

                                    The TET routes are generally a mix of routable roads and off-road tracks.
                                    I.e. Linking off-road tracks together via routable roads.
                                    I have no experience with OSMand so can’t comment on that.
                                    The TET tracks are freely available so in theory you could import them into
                                    OSMand and see what you get.
                                    The Garmin XT can handle off-road tracks but the Here maps can’t as far as I know.

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