Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet

[Adrian Avram]

@Con-Hennekens said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

the in-app slider has no function at all

It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

[Con Hennekens]

@Adrian-Avram said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

Boosting Audio can only be done by lowering other sources. It would be great if Google added a seperate speech channel in Android, like they did in Android Auto...

@Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

The volume of the Sena (mesh) can be easily increased and decreased using the Wonderwheel (this has been working for about two years).

Nice, but that seems to be an MRA app independent feature to me.
Setups like this have already coupled 4 BT devices into one knot. It is bound to go wrong sooner or later. That is what I call the "extra layer of complexity" when it comes to AA/CP solutions. I am an IT guy but no gadget freak . That being said, of course I hope you will find a solution for this strange behavior.

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Con-Hennekens I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

[Westerwald_Rider]

@Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

HHello Peter,

thanks a lot. Your solution sounds linke a workaround. I check it out. But what happend in my Car? I don't know.
I'm just wondering why now? It didn't do that in an older version. Okay there were other problems. Like freezing, hangup during navigation. Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)
With the new version on Android and Samsung S20 FE it drives me crazy. And my phone heats up. Even though it hangs in the wind .
It seems the better way I use my old Garmin during a longer ride. It got a lot of lacks but all navigation command are loud and correct.

have a good ride

regards from Westerwald

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Westerwald_Rider I am pretty happy with MRA … just had a 4 days trip in Slowenia.
Without problems except the loudness issue( which is in my opinion resulting because of wrong adjustment in the Sena App)
The other problems you are mentioning are NOT existing on my side.
If you want.. we can talk together via phone and I‘ll let you know me secrets
I assume you are German so we could talk in German which makes it easier.

Regards
Peter

[Con Hennekens]

@Westerwald_Rider said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)

That happened to me too... I forgot to disable "start at closest waypoint"
(this was in Westerwald actually, Freudenberg ).

[M. Schrijver]

A few beta versions ago there was a line in the release note that the volume can be set louder than before.
In that specific version. The line of the volumeslider was a bit different It was a dotted or dashed line. Not continiuous. I didn't had the change to test that specific version because a newer version was there pretty soon.
In the current version the slider has it's usual continuous shape again. And at maximum volume level, the volume is still low.

Is possible that this change has disappeared in the newer versions

[Con Hennekens]

@M.-Schrijver, I do not remember the slider's looks changed much. That volume slider just mimics the phones volume buttons and system slider. Some claim it is louder since that changed, but personally I don't notice any difference regarding the loudness of the voice.

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Con-Hennekens I would also welcome it if it were louder, because at the moment it is sometimes difficult to understand.

[Westerwald_Rider]

Hi at all, a üretty good workaround for Samsung Smartphones can be Sound Assistent from Samsung market place. I test IT during my holiday Trip and use mra Navigation App in my car and carpuride. And I am verry happy, with it. My better Part of m life means mra is better than g**** maps..more detailed. More professional. directions where early enough and very good. (Peter thanks for your crash course)

Hava a good ride all time

Westerwald rider

[Brian McG]

Hi @Westerwald_Rider "So that the navigation instructions can be heard clearly above the music."
I suspect if you have NO music playing, the MRA audio volume will be plenty loud enough to hear clearly, this is easy to test

IF the volume is loud enough with NO music then what I think the issue about MRA being quiet WITH music is because the user sets the volume level that they want the music to be comfortable at
What is not realised is that a lot of music player apps boost the volume so that they can be produce very high volumes,
quiet or even medium volume rock & roll is just NOT rock & roll

If you set the volume for comfortable music then MRA will sound quieter in comparison because it is not boosted

I learned this because I had the same issue, quiet MRA voice instructions
My fix has been to use a music app with equalizer or Replay gain settings so that I can control/reduce the music app volume output so it is un-boosted & matches the normal volume output of other apps such as MRA
With the music app & mra set to the same output levels then both increase equally using the phone volume controls

Thats was the case for me, it was not MRA's fault but mine for using a loud music app that drowned out the MRA app, other cases may be different especially using carpuride/android auto

[Westerwald_Rider]

Hello Brian,
I heared music during mra. My samsung is intergated in the BT Stack of my car and android carplay. The media channel is my bt stack of my car. Internet radio, mp3 and Spottify. It runs. Only my native radio in my car, I don't use it. Only for traffic and news. These samsung Audio App, you can Set indivdual Volume levels. Spotify is Set for 75% mra 100%. Internet Radio 80%. So you are able to hear mra Navigation instructions clear, clean an loud. Tested during my holiday trip with capuride w903. It runs perfect for me. A stop? No Problem. Only one Thing, mra has to be started first and later the carpuride. So the stopped Navigation runs perfekt for further Tour. Mra navigate me perfekt trough Hamburg. Loud an clean with music. I hope it helps for you.

Regards

Westerwald rider

[Westerwald_Rider]

[Westerwald_Rider]

These are my actual settings I reduced all for 71% or 72%

[Con Hennekens]

@Westerwald_Rider, Yes, some Samsung phones have that feature, I believe not all do. But of course only Google can do something generic to Android to end the problems. Either make a feature like Samsung's, or introduce a speech channel.