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  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

    @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

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    @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
    if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
    Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
    No difference in light or dark mode.

    BMW R1200GS DOHC
    Carpuride 7"
    MRA next navigation
    Tomtom go app
    Samsung A53 5G
    Cardo Spirit HD

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    • RobdH RobdH

      @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
      if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
      Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
      No difference in light or dark mode.

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      @RobdH I discovered yesterday an indentical behavior on a i Phone of a friend of mine.
      Here Maps only worked in 3 D Mode!
      We did not start a route, therefore I can not say whether Here Maps is working then.

      BMW R 1250 GS
      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
      DMD-NOR7E 7"
      SPC Universal mount
      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
      Sena SLR 3
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      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

        @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

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        @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

        When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

        Any idea what that could be?

        Best regards Peter

        BMW R 1250 GS
        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
        DMD-NOR7E 7"
        SPC Universal mount
        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
        Sena SLR 3
        Sena 50 R

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        • RobdH RobdH

          @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
          if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
          Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
          No difference in light or dark mode.

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          Alpha tester
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

          When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

          Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
          Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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          • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

            @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

            When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

            Any idea what that could be?

            Best regards Peter

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            Con Hennekens
            Alpha tester
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick ๐Ÿ˜‰
            The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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            • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

              @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick ๐Ÿ˜‰
              The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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              @Con-Hennekens Hi Con, thanks for prompt reply.
              We'll check and come back asap.

              Concerning his settings.....we checked all twice, indentical with my settings.

              BMW R 1250 GS
              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
              DMD-NOR7E 7"
              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
              Sena SLR 3
              Sena 50 R

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              • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick ๐Ÿ˜‰
                The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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                wrote on last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
                #9

                @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                Any Idea?

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                DMD-NOR7E 7"
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                  @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                  Any Idea?

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                  #10

                  @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                    @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                    Any Idea?

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                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                      @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

                      When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

                      Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
                      Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                      It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                      All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                      Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

                      BMW R1200GS DOHC
                      Carpuride 7"
                      MRA next navigation
                      Tomtom go app
                      Samsung A53 5G
                      Cardo Spirit HD

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                      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

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                        #13

                        @Con-Hennekens Sorry, I seem to have misunderstood that.
                        Of course, there's an internet connection via the provider's SIM card.

                        "No WiFi" means, that no company or third-party WiFi is used for the connection.

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        DMD-NOR7E 7"
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • RobdH RobdH

                          It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                          It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                          All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                          Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

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                          wrote on last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
                          #14

                          @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                          I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobileโ€ฆ.but with my Computer is easy to do.

                          BMW R 1250 GS
                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                          DMD-NOR7E 7"
                          SPC Universal mount
                          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                          Sena SLR 3
                          Sena 50 R

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                          • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                            @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                            I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobileโ€ฆ.but with my Computer is easy to do.

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                            @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                            • Adrian Avram Adrian Avram

                              @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                              @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                              Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                              As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                              When opening a route, Here map is working.

                              My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                              On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                              On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                              On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                              .

                              I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

                              BMW R 1250 GS
                              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                              DMD-NOR7E 7"
                              SPC Universal mount
                              Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                              Sena SLR 3
                              Sena 50 R

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                              • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                                @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                                Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                                As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                                When opening a route, Here map is working.

                                My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                                On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                                .

                                I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

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                                #17

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                                This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                                From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                  • Adrian Avram Adrian Avram

                                    @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                                    This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                                    From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                    @Adrian-Avram Hello Adrian, thank you for your efforts and thank you for confirming that the Here map isn't working for you either. Regarding navigation, I agree with you; there are no restrictions. I'm still surprised, though, because it works on all my devices.

                                    BMW R 1250 GS
                                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                    DMD-NOR7E 7"
                                    SPC Universal mount
                                    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                    Sena SLR 3
                                    Sena 50 R

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                                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                      Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

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                                      @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, thank you very much for your support and efforts to solve such issues.
                                      Regards
                                      Peter

                                      BMW R 1250 GS
                                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                      DMD-NOR7E 7"
                                      SPC Universal mount
                                      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                      Sena SLR 3
                                      Sena 50 R

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                                        #21

                                        This might be solved in the 4.3.9 update.
                                        We've updated the engine used to render these maps. However, as I could not reproduce the issue, I cannot guarantee it ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Edit: will be solved in the 4.3.9 update ๐Ÿ™‚

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