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  • richtea999undefined Offline
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    richtea999
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    @OGRIII
    I'm assuming you mean the scenic route A->B?

    I just had a go, and it worked OK for me.
    I tried Banbury -> Circencester, very cuvry, large height differences, and then selected the second route, which was via Burford rather than Stow-on-the-Wold.

    Are there any specific steps? Or maybe you could share some example start and end points (and the curvy/height options) that fail, and I'll give it another go

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      I suspect @OGRIII means that if you choose a curvy setting, that curvy setting should be the default for the next route (make the setting "sticky"). I can think of at least as many arguments against the idea, as in favor of it, and PLEASE don't make it a setting... 😉

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • richtea999undefined richtea999

        @OGRIII
        I'm assuming you mean the scenic route A->B?

        I just had a go, and it worked OK for me.
        I tried Banbury -> Circencester, very cuvry, large height differences, and then selected the second route, which was via Burford rather than Stow-on-the-Wold.

        Are there any specific steps? Or maybe you could share some example start and end points (and the curvy/height options) that fail, and I'll give it another go

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        @richtea999 thanks for your help.

        No I am talking about a simple route to a chosen destination - not a scenic route.

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          I suspect @OGRIII means that if you choose a curvy setting, that curvy setting should be the default for the next route (make the setting "sticky"). I can think of at least as many arguments against the idea, as in favor of it, and PLEASE don't make it a setting... 😉

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          @Con-Hennekens thanks for your reply.

          No I am talking about using the app to select an end location not a curvy or scenic route.
          Usually at least three options to choose from are given in addition to the default route. Unfortunately if you select one of the options (using android auto) and drive off it defaults to the original route.
          This does not happen using TomTom App or Google App only MRA seems to have this problem.

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          • richtea999undefined richtea999

            @OGRIII
            I'm assuming you mean the scenic route A->B?

            I just had a go, and it worked OK for me.
            I tried Banbury -> Circencester, very cuvry, large height differences, and then selected the second route, which was via Burford rather than Stow-on-the-Wold.

            Are there any specific steps? Or maybe you could share some example start and end points (and the curvy/height options) that fail, and I'll give it another go

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            @richtea999
            Did you use your mobile phone only or were you connected to an Android Auto screen? I have noticed that Android Auto does not do exactly what the mobile app on its own does. If so I will have to try A to B route on my mobile phone only and see if that fixes the problem.

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            • OGRIIIundefined OGRIII

              @richtea999
              Did you use your mobile phone only or were you connected to an Android Auto screen? I have noticed that Android Auto does not do exactly what the mobile app on its own does. If so I will have to try A to B route on my mobile phone only and see if that fixes the problem.

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              @OGRIII said in A to B route choice bug:

              @richtea999
              Did you use your mobile phone only or were you connected to an Android Auto screen? I have noticed that Android Auto does not do exactly what the mobile app on its own does. If so I will have to try A to B route on my mobile phone only and see if that fixes the problem.

              Apols for the late reply.

              On a PC, i.e web, and not via the app.

              I've not tried Android Auto yet.

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              • richtea999undefined richtea999

                @OGRIII said in A to B route choice bug:

                @richtea999
                Did you use your mobile phone only or were you connected to an Android Auto screen? I have noticed that Android Auto does not do exactly what the mobile app on its own does. If so I will have to try A to B route on my mobile phone only and see if that fixes the problem.

                Apols for the late reply.

                On a PC, i.e web, and not via the app.

                I've not tried Android Auto yet.

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                @richtea999
                Txs for the reply. Although MRA is improving, at long last, it still does not work as well with Android Auto unlike TomTom phone app, which works seamlessly.
                Cheers OGRIII

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                  On recalculation, the newest faster route is calculated.
                  Could be that a recalculation occurred and it immediately decided to take the other route 🙂

                  It's a tradeoff between sticking to user choice and forcing back to a route you want anymore because the other is faster.

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    On recalculation, the newest faster route is calculated.
                    Could be that a recalculation occurred and it immediately decided to take the other route 🙂

                    It's a tradeoff between sticking to user choice and forcing back to a route you want anymore because the other is faster.

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                    @Corjan-Meijerink Txs Corjan, but how do I make sure it fixes the route I choose, not the default fastest?

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                    • OGRIIIundefined OGRIII

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Txs Corjan, but how do I make sure it fixes the route I choose, not the default fastest?

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                      @OGRIII You can't 🙂

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                      • OGRIIIundefined OGRIII

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Txs Corjan, but how do I make sure it fixes the route I choose, not the default fastest?

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                        @OGRIII, To put it into perspective 😉 : A single destination is considered as a request for the fastest (or shortest) route. Any calculation will generate just that. That's why the route can change big time when you deviate. It is by public request on this forum that this method was chosen.

                        @Corjan-Meijerink, I am very much in favor of how it works now, but @OGRIII has a point than when you chose a specific (non-default) one from the suggested options, it is a bit strange that it is thrown overboard at the first occasion. Maybe it is an option to start a track instead of a route when any of the non-default route options are chosen? Then it would stick to the track instead of going for the fastest recalculation. Just a thought...

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                          @OGRIII, To put it into perspective 😉 : A single destination is considered as a request for the fastest (or shortest) route. Any calculation will generate just that. That's why the route can change big time when you deviate. It is by public request on this forum that this method was chosen.

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, I am very much in favor of how it works now, but @OGRIII has a point than when you chose a specific (non-default) one from the suggested options, it is a bit strange that it is thrown overboard at the first occasion. Maybe it is an option to start a track instead of a route when any of the non-default route options are chosen? Then it would stick to the track instead of going for the fastest recalculation. Just a thought...

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                          @Con-Hennekens thanks for your reply.
                          I find it hard to believe that people requested to ignore the route options and to always use the default. What's the point of giving options if the system ignores them? As I said earlier the TomTom App offers alternative A to B routes. When you select a non default it takes you on that route. Furthermore as you ride the route it shows green faster alternatives en route that you can ignore or take.
                          This is clearly a bug in the MRA software!

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                          • OGRIIIundefined OGRIII

                            @Con-Hennekens thanks for your reply.
                            I find it hard to believe that people requested to ignore the route options and to always use the default. What's the point of giving options if the system ignores them? As I said earlier the TomTom App offers alternative A to B routes. When you select a non default it takes you on that route. Furthermore as you ride the route it shows green faster alternatives en route that you can ignore or take.
                            This is clearly a bug in the MRA software!

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                            @OGRIII, It is not for you to decide if it is a bug or not. That's a developers prerogative 😉 .

                            In this case I can be clear: it is by design. The straight line option to destination is intended just like that: fastest way to destination. Options like avoid highway are still respected, aren't they? People requested that as a measure against being send back into the route when deviating. Other people than you found it "a bug" when the route was respected while explicitly chosen for the straight line route. It's one or the other, with a possible solution I presented in my earlier post above. It's for the dev team to decide what to do with it. To be honest, I think there are more urgent matters, since you are the first and only one to complain about this.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              @OGRIII, It is not for you to decide if it is a bug or not. That's a developers prerogative 😉 .

                              In this case I can be clear: it is by design. The straight line option to destination is intended just like that: fastest way to destination. Options like avoid highway are still respected, aren't they? People requested that as a measure against being send back into the route when deviating. Other people than you found it "a bug" when the route was respected while explicitly chosen for the straight line route. It's one or the other, with a possible solution I presented in my earlier post above. It's for the dev team to decide what to do with it. To be honest, I think there are more urgent matters, since you are the first and only one to complain about this.

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                              @Con-Hennekens Txs again Con, but as you are not affiliated to MRA I would prefer an answer from the developers.
                              I accept that MRA main function is not a "simple" A to B route. I can use other more suitable apps for that. However, sometimes if the simple things aren't pointed out and rectified they can create a knock on effect in the future.

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                              • OGRIIIundefined OGRIII

                                @Con-Hennekens Txs again Con, but as you are not affiliated to MRA I would prefer an answer from the developers.
                                I accept that MRA main function is not a "simple" A to B route. I can use other more suitable apps for that. However, sometimes if the simple things aren't pointed out and rectified they can create a knock on effect in the future.

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                                @OGRIII, here you go 😉

                                ea49e9a3-2f09-4f1d-9199-67ec8fe618c0-image.png

                                Source: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/56221

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                  @OGRIII, here you go 😉

                                  ea49e9a3-2f09-4f1d-9199-67ec8fe618c0-image.png

                                  Source: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/56221

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                                  @Con-Hennekens Cheers Con. Txs for your positive inputs. Warm regards OGRIII.

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                                    @Con-Hennekens Cheers Con. Txs for your positive inputs. Warm regards OGRIII.

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                                    @OGRIII, you're welcome 😉 Mind you that I feel like your suggestion was valid. If you choose a specific one out of 3 suggestions, it is a bit strange for it to not be honored at the first possible occasion. Most people use that feature like a "get me there fastest way, I don't care how" option. Choosing one of the non-default options should perhaps reconsider that.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                      @OGRIII, you're welcome 😉 Mind you that I feel like your suggestion was valid. If you choose a specific one out of 3 suggestions, it is a bit strange for it to not be honored at the first possible occasion. Most people use that feature like a "get me there fastest way, I don't care how" option. Choosing one of the non-default options should perhaps reconsider that.

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                                      @Con-Hennekens Agreed. Cheers.

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                                        Thanks @Con-Hennekens

                                        @OGRIII we specialise in scenic routing.
                                        Sticking to a specific AB fastest route resulted in many unwanted recalculations forcing you to stick to that option where another option is available. It is indeed a deliberate choice.

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