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  • undefined Jay Salvo
    8 Apr 2025, 16:33

    @Peter-Zehentreiter Hi Peter, as Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it and the C1 works in Googlemaps with cable connection as do Waze, Kurviger and DMD2 but MRA won't. I can't easily disconnect it to try the C1 with bluetooth on MRA so I will have to wait and see how Corjan gets on when he receives his C1.

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    Guzzist
    wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:20 last edited by
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    @Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:

    ...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...

    Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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    • undefined Guzzist
      21 Apr 2025, 20:20

      @Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:

      ...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...

      Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?

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      Jay Salvo
      wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:30 last edited by
      #22

      @Guzzist Hi they sent me an email, this it it pasted(im just trying to work out how I can pass you the zip file they sent:

      Hi,

      We have done integration work with DMD2 app and Firmware update for C1 controller is needed.

      After this update, F-mode toggle is implemented by "pinching" the joysticks: The Control (left) joystick to right and The Panning (right) joystick to left.

      After this update in F1 mode, you can define all Controller joystick moves (4 of them) into action in DMD2 app. As well the cable connection is now fully supported in DMD2 and Buttons app.

      Please follow the link https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update for installation instructions.

      The update file is attached on this email

      Sama suomeksi:

      Olemme tehneet integrointityötä DMD2 ohjelman kanssa ja Firmware päivitys C1 ohjaimeen on tarpeen.

      Tämän päivityksen jälkeen F-moodit vaihtuu "puristamalla" joystickeja toisiaan kohden: Vasenta oikealle ja Oikeaa vasemmalle.

      Päivityksen jälkeen F1 tilassa voit määritellä kaikki 4 suuntaa DMD2 toiminnoiksi. Myös kaapeliyhteys (serial connection) on täysin tuettu DMD2 ja Buttons -ohjelmissa.

      Seuraa linkkiä https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update

      Päivitys tiedosto on liitetiedostona tässä sähköpostissa.

      Best Regards

      Riku Pasanen
      tel+358 40570 2779

      www.silverfoxcontrollers.com
      www.facebook.com/SilverFoxcontrollers

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      • undefined Guzzist
        21 Apr 2025, 20:20

        @Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:

        ...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...

        Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?

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        Jay Salvo
        wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:33 last edited by Jay Salvo
        #23

        @Guzzist You can download it from their site here:

        https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update

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        • undefined Jay Salvo
          21 Apr 2025, 20:33

          @Guzzist You can download it from their site here:

          https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update

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          Guzzist
          wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:39 last edited by
          #24

          @Jay-Salvo thank you very much for detailed information. But I just wondered how to update the Button App. I don't intend to use SilverFox controller.

          Nothing is impossible ;-)
          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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          • undefined Guzzist
            21 Apr 2025, 20:20

            @Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:

            ...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...

            Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?

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            Peter Zehentreiter
            wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:48 last edited by
            #25

            @Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
            I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
            To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.

            BMW R 1250 GS
            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
            SPC Universal mount
            Motorola Edge 40
            Sena SLR 3
            Sena 50 R

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            • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
              21 Apr 2025, 20:48

              @Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
              I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
              To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.

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              Guzzist
              wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 20:54 last edited by
              #26

              @Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.

              Nothing is impossible ;-)
              In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
              In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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              • undefined Guzzist
                21 Apr 2025, 20:54

                @Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.

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                Peter Zehentreiter
                wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 03:16 last edited by
                #27

                @Guzzist My button app isn't from the Play Store either. You can find the app as an "APK file" either in the DMD forum or on the SilverFox website.

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • undefined Kenny Thierens
                  21 Apr 2025, 17:36

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry to bother you. Have you had a chance to test your new C1 controller? Once I am sure all functions work in MRA Navigation, I will order this controller.
                  Thank you in advance.

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                  Corjan Meijerink
                  administrator
                  wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 06:57 last edited by
                  #28

                  @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case 🙂

                  I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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                  • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                    22 Apr 2025, 06:57

                    @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case 🙂

                    I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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                    Jay Salvo
                    wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 08:50 last edited by
                    #29

                    @Corjan-Meijerink Hi, ive update everything but I cant zoom in and out with the joystick on the C1, The left joystick does nothing in MRA but works in other apps. I have a wired connection. Look forward to seeing if you have the same problem and cant resolve it. Thanks.

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                    • undefined Jay Salvo
                      22 Apr 2025, 08:50

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Hi, ive update everything but I cant zoom in and out with the joystick on the C1, The left joystick does nothing in MRA but works in other apps. I have a wired connection. Look forward to seeing if you have the same problem and cant resolve it. Thanks.

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                      Kenny Thierens
                      wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 12:56 last edited by
                      #30

                      @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

                      '07 BMW R1200RT
                      DMD² T865x tablet
                      Silverfox C1 controller
                      Samsung S24+
                      Cardo Spirit HD headset

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                      • undefined Kenny Thierens
                        22 Apr 2025, 12:56

                        @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

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                        Peter Zehentreiter
                        wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 13:30 last edited by
                        #31

                        @Kenny-Thierens I also mentioned that issue 15 days ago to him......I also think, that could be an issue.

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • undefined Kenny Thierens
                          22 Apr 2025, 12:56

                          @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

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                          Jay Salvo
                          wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 13:44 last edited by
                          #32

                          @Kenny-Thierens no it’s wired, I can’t easily disconnect the wiring to try Bluetooth as it’s buried in the bike. All other navigation platforms work with a wired connection

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                          • undefined Jay Salvo
                            22 Apr 2025, 13:44

                            @Kenny-Thierens no it’s wired, I can’t easily disconnect the wiring to try Bluetooth as it’s buried in the bike. All other navigation platforms work with a wired connection

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                            Peter Zehentreiter
                            wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:02 last edited by
                            #33

                            @Jay-SalvoI In our Button app we can disable cable connection, do you have the same possibility in your Button app?

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                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                            • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                              22 Apr 2025, 06:57

                              @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case 🙂

                              I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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                              Peter Zehentreiter
                              wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:06 last edited by
                              #34

                              @Corjan-Meijerink The only thing I´d like to know... is there a possibilty to skip waypoints with the controller, if yes please be so kind and explain how to do.

                              Thanks in advance
                              Peter

                              BMW R 1250 GS
                              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                              SPC Universal mount
                              Motorola Edge 40
                              Sena SLR 3
                              Sena 50 R

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                              • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                                22 Apr 2025, 17:02

                                @Jay-SalvoI In our Button app we can disable cable connection, do you have the same possibility in your Button app?

                                Screenshot 2025-04-22 190045.jpg

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                                Jay Salvo
                                wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:34 last edited by
                                #35

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter Thank you Peter, just gone and tried it and it works via the Bluetooth although as soon as power is lost I have to reconnect bluetooth again and deselect cable in the buttons app.

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                                • undefined Jay Salvo
                                  22 Apr 2025, 17:34

                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter Thank you Peter, just gone and tried it and it works via the Bluetooth although as soon as power is lost I have to reconnect bluetooth again and deselect cable in the buttons app.

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                                  Peter Zehentreiter
                                  wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:40 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Jay-Salvo I am glad to read that you can celebrate at least a partial success

                                  BMW R 1250 GS
                                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                  SPC Universal mount
                                  Motorola Edge 40
                                  Sena SLR 3
                                  Sena 50 R

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                                  • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                                    22 Apr 2025, 17:40

                                    @Jay-Salvo I am glad to read that you can celebrate at least a partial success

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                                    Jay Salvo
                                    wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:58 last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too😀

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                                      22 Apr 2025, 17:58

                                      @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too😀

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                                      Peter Zehentreiter
                                      wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 18:03 last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @Jay-Salvo I'll keep you informed 😉

                                      BMW R 1250 GS
                                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                      SPC Universal mount
                                      Motorola Edge 40
                                      Sena SLR 3
                                      Sena 50 R

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                                        22 Apr 2025, 17:58

                                        @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too😀

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                                        Peter Zehentreiter
                                        wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 09:05 last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I got it 🙂
                                        This link leads to the SilverFox Bluetooth controller commands:
                                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/support

                                        According to the commands listed in the table, the code "D" is the relevant command for skipping waypoints.

                                        Screenshot 2025-04-24 105136.jpg

                                        On the SilverFox website: https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/motorcycle-navigation-installation, you can find further information about which commands the two joysticks can execute.

                                        According to this description, you need to push the control joystick up and hold it briefly.

                                        I've tested it; it works for both via and shaping points.

                                        Screenshot 2025-04-24 110000.jpg

                                        BMW R 1250 GS
                                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                        SPC Universal mount
                                        Motorola Edge 40
                                        Sena SLR 3
                                        Sena 50 R

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                                        • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                                          24 Apr 2025, 09:05

                                          @Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I got it 🙂
                                          This link leads to the SilverFox Bluetooth controller commands:
                                          https://www.myrouteapp.com/support

                                          According to the commands listed in the table, the code "D" is the relevant command for skipping waypoints.

                                          Screenshot 2025-04-24 105136.jpg

                                          On the SilverFox website: https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/motorcycle-navigation-installation, you can find further information about which commands the two joysticks can execute.

                                          According to this description, you need to push the control joystick up and hold it briefly.

                                          I've tested it; it works for both via and shaping points.

                                          Screenshot 2025-04-24 110000.jpg

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                                          Jay Salvo
                                          wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 10:51 last edited by
                                          #40

                                          @Peter-Zehentreiter That's Brilliant, a huge thank you, I will have a play this weekend to see it working.👍

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