SilverFox Controller C 1
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I've ordered a C1 controller. Awaiting production and shipment so I guess I'll know more in three weeks (next production batch is over 2 weeks).
And indeed, that is unfortunately not possible.
As MRA we do not ambition creating hardware such as Carpe Iter so indeed, using their module is on of the ways to integrate with BMW.@Corjan-Meijerink Ok I´ll wait until I get some more infromation from your side concerning the C1 Controller, then I will decide between SilverFox and Carpe Iter.
Thanks
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I've ordered a C1 controller. Awaiting production and shipment so I guess I'll know more in three weeks (next production batch is over 2 weeks).
And indeed, that is unfortunately not possible.
As MRA we do not ambition creating hardware such as Carpe Iter so indeed, using their module is on of the ways to integrate with BMW.@Corjan-Meijerink Hi Corjan, I already got my C1 Controller and I installed everthing needed
Functions with Control Joystick
zooming in and out
Re-center by klick upwards
No function so far when clicking down ?Functions with the panning Joystick
Map moving to the left, right, up and downWould be great to be informed whether there are some other functions available, eg. press and hold >> by one or both Joysticks.
Thanks in advance
PeterBMW R 1250 GS
MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
BMW Connected Ride Cradle
SPC Universal mount
Motorola Edge 40
Sena SLR 3
Sena 50 R -
@Corjan-Meijerink Hi Corjan, I already got my C1 Controller and I installed everthing needed
Functions with Control Joystick
zooming in and out
Re-center by klick upwards
No function so far when clicking down ?Functions with the panning Joystick
Map moving to the left, right, up and downWould be great to be informed whether there are some other functions available, eg. press and hold >> by one or both Joysticks.
Thanks in advance
Peter@Peter-Zehentreiter Hello Peter I have also the C1 controller, are you using it on the T865 tablet? I can pan in all directions with the right controller but the left controller doesn't do anything, I'm wondering if it needs to be in F1 or F2?
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@Peter-Zehentreiter Hello Peter I have also the C1 controller, are you using it on the T865 tablet? I can pan in all directions with the right controller but the left controller doesn't do anything, I'm wondering if it needs to be in F1 or F2?
Thanks Jay@Jay-Salvo Hello Jay, I am using the controller on a Android mobile phone.
The My Route App needs to be in F2 Mode
The panning Joystick (on the right) allows me to move the map in every direction.
The control Joystick ( on the left) allows me to zoom in and to zoom out, by moving forward or backward the Joystick.
I can switch the moving direction of the control Joystick ( means you can decide by your self whether zoom in or out when moving the Joystick forward or backward.
By clicking up the Controller Joystick, the Map is re- centering.
For Google Maps you need to be in F1 Mode
It is mandatory to install the Button app from the SilverFox Webste.
I also recommend to do the firmware update , explained on the SilverFox Website as well.
I will make a short video today and will provide it here.
Regards
PeterBMW R 1250 GS
MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
BMW Connected Ride Cradle
SPC Universal mount
Motorola Edge 40
Sena SLR 3
Sena 50 R -
@Jay-Salvo Hello Jay, I am using the controller on a Android mobile phone.
The My Route App needs to be in F2 Mode
The panning Joystick (on the right) allows me to move the map in every direction.
The control Joystick ( on the left) allows me to zoom in and to zoom out, by moving forward or backward the Joystick.
I can switch the moving direction of the control Joystick ( means you can decide by your self whether zoom in or out when moving the Joystick forward or backward.
By clicking up the Controller Joystick, the Map is re- centering.
For Google Maps you need to be in F1 Mode
It is mandatory to install the Button app from the SilverFox Webste.
I also recommend to do the firmware update , explained on the SilverFox Website as well.
I will make a short video today and will provide it here.
Regards
Peter@Peter-Zehentreiter Thanks Peter, I look forward to the video.
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@Peter-Zehentreiter Thanks Peter, I look forward to the video.
@Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, please find the video here
https://1drv.ms/f/c/94b7ec629bb8bee5/EvfwBuww8BpLmoF32H5NurABfok3Ae1s7EZ6WcZvUGx-Aw?e=eu5KqFBMW R 1250 GS
MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
BMW Connected Ride Cradle
SPC Universal mount
Motorola Edge 40
Sena SLR 3
Sena 50 R -
@Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, please find the video here
https://1drv.ms/f/c/94b7ec629bb8bee5/EvfwBuww8BpLmoF32H5NurABfok3Ae1s7EZ6WcZvUGx-Aw?e=eu5KqF@Peter-Zehentreiter said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
https://1drv.ms/f/c/94b7ec629bb8bee5/EvfwBuww8BpLmoF32H5NurABfok3Ae1s7EZ6WcZvUGx-Aw?e=eu5KqF
Thanks Peter, I've seen the video really appreciated. I will give it a try tomorrow.
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@Peter-Zehentreiter said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
https://1drv.ms/f/c/94b7ec629bb8bee5/EvfwBuww8BpLmoF32H5NurABfok3Ae1s7EZ6WcZvUGx-Aw?e=eu5KqF
Thanks Peter, I've seen the video really appreciated. I will give it a try tomorrow.
@Jay-Salvo I bought the T865x recently and currently in doubt to order the C1 controller. MRA works flawless and much better and cleaner than on my previous AA device. But a BT controller would make the combination just that extra little bit more convenient and safer. I'll wait for Corjan's test before I'll decide.
I have read that previous Silverfox controllers had more input options, such as holding down a button for longer, for example, but I'm curious to read your experiences so far. TIA'07 BMW R1200RT
DMD² T865x tablet
Silverfox C1 controller
Samsung S24+
Cardo Spirit HD headset -
@Jay-Salvo I bought the T865x recently and currently in doubt to order the C1 controller. MRA works flawless and much better and cleaner than on my previous AA device. But a BT controller would make the combination just that extra little bit more convenient and safer. I'll wait for Corjan's test before I'll decide.
I have read that previous Silverfox controllers had more input options, such as holding down a button for longer, for example, but I'm curious to read your experiences so far. TIA@Kenny-Thierens Hi Kenny, well I had a play today , I couldn't get it to zoom in using either F1 or F2., tried everything, my C1 uses the wired connection, it works brilliantly in DMD2 and you do have 4 separate options on the left joystick and 4 on the right since the update but only the right joystick works currently for panning in MRA. In Waze, Googlemaps it has full functions on both joysticks. Even on Kurviger it had 7 way controls and it states on the website it would be just follow mode and panning. I'm not sure who needs to implement something to address the problem, either Silverfox of MRA.
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@Jay-Salvo I bought the T865x recently and currently in doubt to order the C1 controller. MRA works flawless and much better and cleaner than on my previous AA device. But a BT controller would make the combination just that extra little bit more convenient and safer. I'll wait for Corjan's test before I'll decide.
I have read that previous Silverfox controllers had more input options, such as holding down a button for longer, for example, but I'm curious to read your experiences so far. TIA@Kenny-Thierens said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
I have read that previous Silverfox controllers had more input options, such as holding down a button for longer, for example, but I'm curious to read your experiences so far. TIA
The C1 Controller has also additional input option like press and hold.
F2 Mode
Control Joystick up => letter 'C' for centering the map
Control Joystick up and hold => letter 'D' extra functions on some appsControl Joystick forward => character '-' and KEY_NUM_MINUS
Control Joystick forward hold + => letter 'A'Control Joystick backward => character '=' and KEY_NUM_PLUS
Control Joystick backward and hold - => letter 'B'Control Joystick downward => letter 'E'
Control Joystick downward and hold => jumps to F1 mode and send letter 'X'I am impressed by the precise operation, also the pressure points of the joystick controller are absolutely top.
But of course I am also curious what Corjan has to say
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@Kenny-Thierens Hi Kenny, well I had a play today , I couldn't get it to zoom in using either F1 or F2., tried everything, my C1 uses the wired connection, it works brilliantly in DMD2 and you do have 4 separate options on the left joystick and 4 on the right since the update but only the right joystick works currently for panning in MRA. In Waze, Googlemaps it has full functions on both joysticks. Even on Kurviger it had 7 way controls and it states on the website it would be just follow mode and panning. I'm not sure who needs to implement something to address the problem, either Silverfox of MRA.
@Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I don't know if this is relevant for you, I had to install the Button App to get Apps of the F1 Mode running "Google Maps" Riku from SilverFox told me, I have to make sure that the cable connection has to be disabled.
You are writing, that you are using the cable connection maybe that is causing some problems on your side ?
BMW R 1250 GS
MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
BMW Connected Ride Cradle
SPC Universal mount
Motorola Edge 40
Sena SLR 3
Sena 50 R -
@Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I don't know if this is relevant for you, I had to install the Button App to get Apps of the F1 Mode running "Google Maps" Riku from SilverFox told me, I have to make sure that the cable connection has to be disabled.
You are writing, that you are using the cable connection maybe that is causing some problems on your side ?
@Peter-Zehentreiter Hi Peter, as Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it and the C1 works in Googlemaps with cable connection as do Waze, Kurviger and DMD2 but MRA won't. I can't easily disconnect it to try the C1 with bluetooth on MRA so I will have to wait and see how Corjan gets on when he receives his C1.
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@Peter-Zehentreiter Hi Peter, as Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it and the C1 works in Googlemaps with cable connection as do Waze, Kurviger and DMD2 but MRA won't. I can't easily disconnect it to try the C1 with bluetooth on MRA so I will have to wait and see how Corjan gets on when he receives his C1.
@Corjan-Meijerink Sorry to bother you. Have you had a chance to test your new C1 controller? Once I am sure all functions work in MRA Navigation, I will order this controller.
Thank you in advance.'07 BMW R1200RT
DMD² T865x tablet
Silverfox C1 controller
Samsung S24+
Cardo Spirit HD headset -
@Peter-Zehentreiter Hi Peter, as Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it and the C1 works in Googlemaps with cable connection as do Waze, Kurviger and DMD2 but MRA won't. I can't easily disconnect it to try the C1 with bluetooth on MRA so I will have to wait and see how Corjan gets on when he receives his C1.
@Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...
Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?
Nothing is impossible ;-)
In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner. -
@Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...
Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?
@Guzzist Hi they sent me an email, this it it pasted(im just trying to work out how I can pass you the zip file they sent:
Hi,
We have done integration work with DMD2 app and Firmware update for C1 controller is needed.
After this update, F-mode toggle is implemented by "pinching" the joysticks: The Control (left) joystick to right and The Panning (right) joystick to left.
After this update in F1 mode, you can define all Controller joystick moves (4 of them) into action in DMD2 app. As well the cable connection is now fully supported in DMD2 and Buttons app.
Please follow the link https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update for installation instructions.
The update file is attached on this email
Sama suomeksi:
Olemme tehneet integrointityötä DMD2 ohjelman kanssa ja Firmware päivitys C1 ohjaimeen on tarpeen.
Tämän päivityksen jälkeen F-moodit vaihtuu "puristamalla" joystickeja toisiaan kohden: Vasenta oikealle ja Oikeaa vasemmalle.
Päivityksen jälkeen F1 tilassa voit määritellä kaikki 4 suuntaa DMD2 toiminnoiksi. Myös kaapeliyhteys (serial connection) on täysin tuettu DMD2 ja Buttons -ohjelmissa.
Seuraa linkkiä https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/c1update
Päivitys tiedosto on liitetiedostona tässä sähköpostissa.
Best Regards
Riku Pasanen
tel+358 40570 2779www.silverfoxcontrollers.com
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@Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...
Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?
@Guzzist You can download it from their site here:
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@Guzzist You can download it from their site here:
@Jay-Salvo thank you very much for detailed information. But I just wondered how to update the Button App. I don't intend to use SilverFox controller.
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@Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:
...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...
Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?
@Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.BMW R 1250 GS
MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
BMW Connected Ride Cradle
SPC Universal mount
Motorola Edge 40
Sena SLR 3
Sena 50 R -
@Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.@Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.
Nothing is impossible ;-)
In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner. -
@Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.
@Guzzist My button app isn't from the Play Store either. You can find the app as an "APK file" either in the DMD forum or on the SilverFox website.
