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Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route

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  • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
    16 Mar 2025, 16:30

    @Ton-Machielsen Looking at your route itself raises a lot of issues. Only waypoint 14 and 17 are ON the route. The rest is of or even way of. That's a chance to get your route to get messed up.
    Are You navigation with the Next app of are you using a dedicated device.
    If you're navigating with the next app witch settings are you using. Did you select start navigating from the nearest waypoint. If you are in fact linvibng near waypoint 18 and you have that setting active it's by design that youy are routed home, since that's the nearest waypoint.
    Add some screeshots of your settings

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    wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:03 last edited by
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    @Marinus-van-Deudekom
    Something to add to your comment.

    When waypoints are way off route/road and you're riding a route (not a track). How can MRA Navigation (or other navigation) hit those waypoints when they are not on the road or very close to the road.
    Those waypoints causes recalculations just because the waypoints are too far off-road.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • undefined Ton Machielsen
      16 Mar 2025, 17:01

      @Marinus-van-Deudekom

      I get 18…
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      On the CarPlay I get none.
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      Marinus van Deudekom
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      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:06 last edited by
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      @Ton-Machielsen there you have it. The app is trying to get you to the nearest waypoint, that would be nr 18. Since you know where waypoint 1 is, you've driving towards that waypoint nr 1 and meanwhile the app tries to get you to go to waypoint 18.
      The fact that your waypoints are not ON the route is not good but the aopp will disregard those of route waypoints and try to navigate as close as possible to thoes waypoints. Your problems lies in the fact that you didn't not selct waypoint 1

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • undefined M. Schrijver
        16 Mar 2025, 17:03

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom
        Something to add to your comment.

        When waypoints are way off route/road and you're riding a route (not a track). How can MRA Navigation (or other navigation) hit those waypoints when they are not on the road or very close to the road.
        Those waypoints causes recalculations just because the waypoints are too far off-road.

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        Ton Machielsen
        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:06 last edited by
        #20

        @M-Schrijver Understand. That’s why I am suggesting a radius for the waypoint hits. If you pass the waypoint within that distance the waypoint is considered as hit.

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        • undefined Ton Machielsen
          16 Mar 2025, 17:01

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom

          I get 18…
          bc03d878-7163-49d7-b5a7-d673b0f0fec5-image.png

          On the CarPlay I get none.
          a5a30c10-3229-4d91-94dc-4f12e8b0f005-image.jpeg

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          M. Schrijver
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          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:06 last edited by
          #21

          @Ton-Machielsen
          Ahh cause found.
          You've select "start at nearest waypoint" that is Waypoint 18 in your case. Unselect this option and try again.

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • undefined Ton Machielsen
            16 Mar 2025, 17:06

            @M-Schrijver Understand. That’s why I am suggesting a radius for the waypoint hits. If you pass the waypoint within that distance the waypoint is considered as hit.

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            Marinus van Deudekom
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            wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:09 last edited by
            #22

            @Ton-Machielsen when navigating with the nex app is will go OK. If you would use such a route in lets say an Garmin XT, you would be in great trouble.
            That's why we have and use MRA next

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • undefined Ton Machielsen
              16 Mar 2025, 17:06

              @M-Schrijver Understand. That’s why I am suggesting a radius for the waypoint hits. If you pass the waypoint within that distance the waypoint is considered as hit.

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              M. Schrijver
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              wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:09 last edited by
              #23

              @Ton-Machielsen
              There is already a radius. But this radius is limited for a reason. Point 7, 11, 12 and 16 on route shows why. It is normal practice that you do your best to place the waypoints on the road.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • undefined M. Schrijver
                16 Mar 2025, 17:06

                @Ton-Machielsen
                Ahh cause found.
                You've select "start at nearest waypoint" that is Waypoint 18 in your case. Unselect this option and try again.

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                wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:12 last edited by
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                • undefined M. Schrijver
                  16 Mar 2025, 17:06

                  @Ton-Machielsen
                  Ahh cause found.
                  You've select "start at nearest waypoint" that is Waypoint 18 in your case. Unselect this option and try again.

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                  Ton Machielsen
                  wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:15 last edited by
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                  @M-Schrijver Where can I find this setting?

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                    M. Schrijver
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                    wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:17 last edited by
                    #26

                    It is the first option below de "start" button

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                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      Ton Machielsen
                      wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:18 last edited by
                      #27

                      Ha! Never seen that menu before!! Thanks!

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                        Ton Machielsen
                        wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:21 last edited by
                        #28

                        Any idea why I don’t get the waypoint hand and Skip Waypoint icon on the CarPlay? (see https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/61333)

                        Remember I am on a bike. I have the phone in my pocket and am navigating through the CarPlay device.

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                        • undefined Ton Machielsen
                          16 Mar 2025, 17:21

                          Any idea why I don’t get the waypoint hand and Skip Waypoint icon on the CarPlay? (see https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/61333)

                          Remember I am on a bike. I have the phone in my pocket and am navigating through the CarPlay device.

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                          Marinus van Deudekom
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                          wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:26 last edited by
                          #29

                          @Ton-Machielsen Due to restrictions by Apple and Google the viapoint sign is NOT on Androis Auto and Carplay

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                          • undefined M. Schrijver
                            16 Mar 2025, 17:03

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom
                            Something to add to your comment.

                            When waypoints are way off route/road and you're riding a route (not a track). How can MRA Navigation (or other navigation) hit those waypoints when they are not on the road or very close to the road.
                            Those waypoints causes recalculations just because the waypoints are too far off-road.

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                            Ton Machielsen
                            wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 17:27 last edited by
                            #30

                            @M-Schrijver Is the “Navigate routes as tracks” option my solution?

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                            • undefined Ton Machielsen
                              16 Mar 2025, 17:06

                              @M-Schrijver Understand. That’s why I am suggesting a radius for the waypoint hits. If you pass the waypoint within that distance the waypoint is considered as hit.

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                              richtea999
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                              wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:39 last edited by richtea999
                              #31

                              @Ton-Machielsen said in Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route:

                              @M-Schrijver Understand. That’s why I am suggesting a radius for the waypoint hits. If you pass the waypoint within that distance the waypoint is considered as hit.

                              That is a sensible suggestion - agreed, but I suspect the radius must change depending on the circumstances. Roads that are close together will require a smaller radius to be drawn by MRA, so basically, the radius info would just be telling you what you know you need to do anyway - i.e. drop the waypoints 'accurately'! 😁

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                              • undefined Ton Machielsen
                                16 Mar 2025, 17:27

                                @M-Schrijver Is the “Navigate routes as tracks” option my solution?

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                                M. Schrijver
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                                wrote on 16 Mar 2025, 21:46 last edited by
                                #32

                                @Ton-Machielsen
                                No. If you want route to be riden reliable. The route itself should be made reliable. A navigation cannot fix a badly made route.

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                • undefined Ton Machielsen
                                  16 Mar 2025, 17:15

                                  @M-Schrijver Where can I find this setting?

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                                  wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 10:35 last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @Ton-Machielsen, I guess this thread gives some "food for thought" 😉
                                  Great thread, that shows the power of an "old-fashioned" forum! 💪

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • undefined M. Schrijver
                                    16 Mar 2025, 21:46

                                    @Ton-Machielsen
                                    No. If you want route to be riden reliable. The route itself should be made reliable. A navigation cannot fix a badly made route.

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                                    wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 11:39 last edited by
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                                    @M-Schrijver said in Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route:

                                    @Ton-Machielsen
                                    No. If you want route to be riden reliable. The route itself should be made reliable. A navigation cannot fix a badly made route.

                                    Ok, i'll bite. Define "a badly made route".
                                    My take is that if the app shows the route i want to ride, the app should follow that route.
                                    What's your take?

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                                    • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
                                      16 Mar 2025, 17:26

                                      @Ton-Machielsen Due to restrictions by Apple and Google the viapoint sign is NOT on Androis Auto and Carplay

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                                      wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 11:41 last edited by
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                                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route:

                                      @Ton-Machielsen Due to restrictions by Apple and Google the viapoint sign is NOT on Androis Auto and Carplay

                                      Meaning the "Skip Waypoint" icon is also not? So how do i skip waypoints? Stopping, taking my gloves off, taking my phone out of my pocket, click "Skip waypoint", dress up and continue?

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                                      • undefined Ton Machielsen
                                        17 Mar 2025, 11:41

                                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route:

                                        @Ton-Machielsen Due to restrictions by Apple and Google the viapoint sign is NOT on Androis Auto and Carplay

                                        Meaning the "Skip Waypoint" icon is also not? So how do i skip waypoints? Stopping, taking my gloves off, taking my phone out of my pocket, click "Skip waypoint", dress up and continue?

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                                        Marinus van Deudekom
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                                        wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 16:05 last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @Ton-Machielsen yep unfortunately that's the case when using Android Auto or CarPlay.

                                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                        • undefined Ton Machielsen
                                          17 Mar 2025, 11:39

                                          @M-Schrijver said in Another day MyRoute-app screwed up My Route:

                                          @Ton-Machielsen
                                          No. If you want route to be riden reliable. The route itself should be made reliable. A navigation cannot fix a badly made route.

                                          Ok, i'll bite. Define "a badly made route".
                                          My take is that if the app shows the route i want to ride, the app should follow that route.
                                          What's your take?

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                                          wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 16:09 last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @Ton-Machielsen not completely true. As long as you stay within MRA its by design that MRA will save the day and keep you on the route, even if the route is not made correctly like in your example. However if you wanted to use that same route in a dedicated device like a Garmin XT you would be in for a real bad day with a messed up route.

                                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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