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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom that’s where the fun part starts 😉 (and why it has been quite some work).
    Under the hood we use a lot of internal stops along the track to prevent you ever being sent straight to the end 😃

    If you have 2 viapoints (start & finish) you won’t ever be sent straight to the end. The only situation where this happens would be if you press and hold the end waypoint. You can always long press near a point along the track to resume from there 🎉

    In short:

    • route calculation always has a degree of freedom to calculate the route between individual waypoints. Due to traffic you can indeed get a different route than plannend.
    • track navigation is identical to planned always as we follow the breadcrumb (disclaimer for offroad waypoints). The shown waypoints are there for visual information but do not influence the calculation. You can use them to skip a section / resume from a point. But even without displaying them that would be possible as you can long press anywhere near the line.

    In both situations, viapoints are never skipped / missed 🙂

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    #15

    @Corjan-Meijerink : 😎

    Hey Corjan, that's exactly what I've always missed personally, and the way it looks and apparently behaves, this also applies to this button 1./ 2. /3. / 4./ in the picture.

    Thank you very much for that 👍

    IMG_8512.jpeg

    VG Hubert
    Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
    iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
    ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      @Marinus-van-Deudekom that’s where the fun part starts 😉 (and why it has been quite some work).
      Under the hood we use a lot of internal stops along the track to prevent you ever being sent straight to the end 😃

      If you have 2 viapoints (start & finish) you won’t ever be sent straight to the end. The only situation where this happens would be if you press and hold the end waypoint. You can always long press near a point along the track to resume from there 🎉

      In short:

      • route calculation always has a degree of freedom to calculate the route between individual waypoints. Due to traffic you can indeed get a different route than plannend.
      • track navigation is identical to planned always as we follow the breadcrumb (disclaimer for offroad waypoints). The shown waypoints are there for visual information but do not influence the calculation. You can use them to skip a section / resume from a point. But even without displaying them that would be possible as you can long press anywhere near the line.

      In both situations, viapoints are never skipped / missed 🙂

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      Dave J 0
      wrote on last edited by
      #16

      @Corjan-Meijerink Great work and I am really liking the options. One quick query for when navigating a route as a track, how would a road closure be handled? Would the app route around or would the rider have to take a detour and be directed back and, in this case, would the new directions be to beyond the known closure? Understand that the app can only deal with promulgated and known closures.

      Kind Regards. Help where I can.
      Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
      iPhone 15 Pro
      Chigee AIO-5 Play
      Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
      Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Corjan-Meijerink Hi Corjan. As far as the MRA next app I'm with you all the way. My question was related to the external devices such as the Garmin Zumo's. How do those devices react on the track beein send by for instance the Drive app. Do the Zumo's see the track of the track with all of the fine extra's you've added.

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        Con Hennekens
        wrote on last edited by
        #17

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Updated beta! 4.3.4 (372):

        My question was related to the external devices such as the Garmin Zumo's.

        The change in navigating a route as a track is entirely implemented in the navigation app. Nothing changed in regard to a GPX export, and therefore nothing will change on your Zumo.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Updated beta! 4.3.4 (372):

          My question was related to the external devices such as the Garmin Zumo's.

          The change in navigating a route as a track is entirely implemented in the navigation app. Nothing changed in regard to a GPX export, and therefore nothing will change on your Zumo.

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          Marinus van Deudekom
          RouteXperts
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          @Con-Hennekens That's indeed what I already thought so I will keep exporting the route to my Zumo and leave the track where it is 🙂

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom that’s where the fun part starts 😉 (and why it has been quite some work).
            Under the hood we use a lot of internal stops along the track to prevent you ever being sent straight to the end 😃

            If you have 2 viapoints (start & finish) you won’t ever be sent straight to the end. The only situation where this happens would be if you press and hold the end waypoint. You can always long press near a point along the track to resume from there 🎉

            In short:

            • route calculation always has a degree of freedom to calculate the route between individual waypoints. Due to traffic you can indeed get a different route than plannend.
            • track navigation is identical to planned always as we follow the breadcrumb (disclaimer for offroad waypoints). The shown waypoints are there for visual information but do not influence the calculation. You can use them to skip a section / resume from a point. But even without displaying them that would be possible as you can long press anywhere near the line.

            In both situations, viapoints are never skipped / missed 🙂

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            Stanisław
            wrote on last edited by
            #19

            @Corjan-Meijerink would be possible to have in track navigation more visible info if we are currently on the (planned) track or not? There is a line along the route but quite weakly visible. Maybe some color change od the arrow would be good idea, what do you think?

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              Dave J 0
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              #20

              @Corjan-Meijerink
              I planned a test ride with some of my favourite parts of mid wales in order to test version 4.3.4 - 272 properly on a long route with navigation of the route to be by track with only ‘vias’ showing - display of the navigation was through CarPlay.

              First issue was at the start as the app kept saying, “Reached Waypoint 40” (the end) and then ended the navigation! I had to ride the bike nearer towards Waypoint 1 and skip to Waypoint 2 for navigation of the track to resume correctly.

              All good and no problems on the way to Waypoint 7 for a disconnect and coffee break. On reconnect and recommencing navigation after the ‘stop’, I followed the app to see where it would take me and I followed the instructions to Waypoint 25 - the next via on what appeared to be the fastest route and not the desired track. The routetrack should have taken on a southern loop (white):

              IMG_0911.png IMG_0910.png

              Before stopping at Waypoint 25, I took a SE direction to backtrack the intended track to see what would happen. I was quickly presented with ‘recalculating’ as mobile signals for both data plans on my iPhone dropped but the app did not switch to ‘offline’ for the next 20 mins and the app appeared to have frozen when I stopped at Waypoint 25.

              IMG_0915.png IMG_0913.png IMG_0912.png

              The app had to be closed on the iPhone to resume the track recording but the app would not recalculate the route even though I had signal with both sims. A switch to offline also did not resolve the issue despite having the correct maps loaded for offline use. A soft reset of the iPhone did not resolve the problem either.

              Abandoning the route and setting a ‘course for home’ was met with repeated ‘no route found’ for offline and online. Manually selecting the destination from the map also did not help.

              IMG_0916.png IMG_0917.jpeg

              Not sure what was happening but I will raise a support ticket with app logs attached for you @Corjan-Meijerink .

              Interesting trip.

              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
              iPhone 15 Pro
              Chigee AIO-5 Play
              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                Jörgen
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                #21

                Hi, I used the new version today for a 2-hour trip as A to B route on iOS CarPlay and everything went very well. Traffic jam and roadworks very announced and a shorter way during traffic was recommended. All were displayed on the car screen. The App is becoming better and better. 👍

                Hardware
                iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                For more information, click here

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                  Mopetenpit
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                  #22

                  Hi, I would like to use Track Navigation:
                  To do this, I take a route that I have created in advance in the MRA Webplanner. In the MRA Next settings, I set the “Navigate routes as tracks” switch to ON. Is that all or do I need to adjust other things?

                  Peter

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                  • Mopetenpitundefined Mopetenpit

                    Hi, I would like to use Track Navigation:
                    To do this, I take a route that I have created in advance in the MRA Webplanner. In the MRA Next settings, I set the “Navigate routes as tracks” switch to ON. Is that all or do I need to adjust other things?

                    Peter

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                    Con Hennekens
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                    #23

                    @Mopetenpit, that's all indeed. You do have choice however to enable the visibility (ON) of all waypoints, or only the VIA points (OFF) on your track. The preferred method of track-navigation is still online. Of course only really relevant for the moments when recalculations occur (which you can disable now too).

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                      Hi, I used the new version today for a 2-hour trip as A to B route on iOS CarPlay and everything went very well. Traffic jam and roadworks very announced and a shorter way during traffic was recommended. All were displayed on the car screen. The App is becoming better and better. 👍

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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      administrator
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                      #24

                      @Jörgen Happy to read that you had a positive experience 🙂

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                      • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                        @Corjan-Meijerink
                        I planned a test ride with some of my favourite parts of mid wales in order to test version 4.3.4 - 272 properly on a long route with navigation of the route to be by track with only ‘vias’ showing - display of the navigation was through CarPlay.

                        First issue was at the start as the app kept saying, “Reached Waypoint 40” (the end) and then ended the navigation! I had to ride the bike nearer towards Waypoint 1 and skip to Waypoint 2 for navigation of the track to resume correctly.

                        All good and no problems on the way to Waypoint 7 for a disconnect and coffee break. On reconnect and recommencing navigation after the ‘stop’, I followed the app to see where it would take me and I followed the instructions to Waypoint 25 - the next via on what appeared to be the fastest route and not the desired track. The routetrack should have taken on a southern loop (white):

                        IMG_0911.png IMG_0910.png

                        Before stopping at Waypoint 25, I took a SE direction to backtrack the intended track to see what would happen. I was quickly presented with ‘recalculating’ as mobile signals for both data plans on my iPhone dropped but the app did not switch to ‘offline’ for the next 20 mins and the app appeared to have frozen when I stopped at Waypoint 25.

                        IMG_0915.png IMG_0913.png IMG_0912.png

                        The app had to be closed on the iPhone to resume the track recording but the app would not recalculate the route even though I had signal with both sims. A switch to offline also did not resolve the issue despite having the correct maps loaded for offline use. A soft reset of the iPhone did not resolve the problem either.

                        Abandoning the route and setting a ‘course for home’ was met with repeated ‘no route found’ for offline and online. Manually selecting the destination from the map also did not help.

                        IMG_0916.png IMG_0917.jpeg

                        Not sure what was happening but I will raise a support ticket with app logs attached for you @Corjan-Meijerink .

                        Interesting trip.

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                        Corjan Meijerink
                        administrator
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #25

                        @Dave-J-0 Thanks so much for the elaborate feedback 🙂

                        I've been working on fixing the mentioned issues and with joy can report the following changes that will be included in the next beta update / public release:

                        • Fixed an issue with route not recalculating after deviating (when recalculations are enabled)
                        • Improved determining the nearest marker to start route from (your route specifically had a specific case where the finish was closer than your start marker but the one before the finish marker was extremely far away. This caused your route to start at the finish).
                        • Improve determining next waypoint when deviating from the route.
                        • Improved route generator fallback option when not having internet / online route calculation failed (your last issue).

                        Thanks again for the nice feedback. I believe all the encountered issues are resolved now in upcoming version 374 🎉

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                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                          @Mopetenpit, that's all indeed. You do have choice however to enable the visibility (ON) of all waypoints, or only the VIA points (OFF) on your track. The preferred method of track-navigation is still online. Of course only really relevant for the moments when recalculations occur (which you can disable now too).

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                          @Con-Hennekens Thank you very much for your explanations! Together with the new version (372) it now works as expected.

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                          • Mopetenpitundefined Mopetenpit

                            @Con-Hennekens Thank you very much for your explanations! Together with the new version (372) it now works as expected.

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                            Of course I mean version 374!

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                                TestFlight says 375, Correct?

                                Hardware
                                iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                                Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                                Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                For more information, click here

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