MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever

[Thomas Piechocki]

@M-Schrijver
The connection is made via Bluetooth.

[cvlmtg]

@Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

not a simpler app, just a smarter one

No, I really think a simpler one. You cannot automate a thinking process for everyone in general. What is smart for you, can be very dumb for me (en vice versa of course). Many features lead to many switches and toggles and sometimes it is too much for the one, while the other desires even more.

Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

[Con Hennekens]

@cvlmtg said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

That switch is there to prevent data usage when there actually IS an internet connection. Also to prevent the app from accidentally using internet data when you don't want that. It's not that difficult...

[Mzokk]

@Corjan-Meijerink sort of off topic but here is something that I discovered with Android Auto and my Africa Twin which might help some folk.

I recently got a new phone a Motorola edge 40 neo (Android14). When I used it for Android Auto plugged into the car for AA or if I tried it on my Africa Twin it would invariably operate normally for a while, then repeatedly cycle on and off AA every couple of minutes. I never had this when using my old Motorola G8 or G7. I tried a few different leads and that did not make any difference, then I tried using wireless AA in the car and it never glitched. Long story short after a lot of Googling and my own observations, I realised that the glitching started when the phone Battery was 100% full. Some phones are set up so that Android issues regular notifications when the battery is 100% full. Flashing the phone screen at a regular interval (completely pointless??). This appears to cause Android auto to glitch. Anyhow, I turned this notification off on the phone (not easy to find as its part of the OS) and have had no issues since. My old MotoG8 (Android 11) and my wifes old MotoG7 (Android 10) had the 100% charged warning switched off by default. This might help someone who is having similar issues.

The glitch affected all apps.

[cvlmtg]

@Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

That switch is there to prevent data usage when there actually IS an internet connection. Also to prevent the app from accidentally using internet data when you don't want that. It's not that difficult...

1. I had to switch that setting otherwise the app would not calculate a route when I had no internet connection, so no, it is not there just to prevent using internet data. And this is the reason why I talk about smarter apps
2. if you don't want to use internet data when there is internet connection, you can just put the phone in airplane mode. on ios there is also a setting to switch off just the data connection. or disable roaming so it is off only when abroad. there are plenty of possibilities without the need to put such an option in the MRA app which, IMHO, makes just the app more difficult to use and learn

[M. Schrijver]

@Thomas-Piechocki
If possible. Did you try it wired?
Normally wireless should work. But just to rule out issues, try it wired also.

[Thomas Piechocki]

@M-Schrijver

Yes, of course. I tried four different USB cables, all supposedly AA-capable, but none of them really worked properly with AA, even though the vehicle system (2023) was supposed to support it. Connected via Bluetooth, I have no problems at all with AA, with the exception of MRA.

[Stephen Holmes]

Hi Im having the same issue with my newly installed Aoocci using AA. The phone works well and tracks/guides me on a route however the Aoocci C6 Pro Ive installed initially opens the map with the triangle illustrating my location, but after that the navigation doesn't work.

Pulling my hair out

[Nick Carthew]

@Stephen-Holmes The developers are aware of this and I believe this issue will be resolved in the next update.

[Stephen Holmes]

@Nick-Carthew thanks for coming back so swiftly. Have you seen this in writing anywhere/how do you know? How sure are you that they are committed and any idea of timescales? Much appreciated.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Stephen-Holmes I confirmed to be working on it
I am hoping to put something in beta next week!
Minor public update in ~2 weeks?

[pvspike]

Ik heb hetzelfde probleem. MRA navigeert de routes van de routeplanner nooit zonder problemen of fouten. Maar mijn probleem is opgelost vandaag. Heb route van MRA van 260 km gereden op de motor via app Osmand op CarPlay. Niet te geloven maar van de eerste keer foutloos !!! Heb ik na bijna 2 jaar MRA Navigation niet voor mekaar gekregen. Dus het ligt niet aan de motor en niet aan de iPhone en niet aan de verbinding, maar aan MRA! Hoe leg je dit uit ?

[M. Schrijver]

Routes gemaakt in MRA kunnen echt wel foutloos gereden worden. Carplay en Android Auto kunnen het inderdaad complexer maken.
Ben nu in Ierland en heb nu 5 dagen achter elkaar (zo lang ben ik hier) MRA op Android Auto volledig foutloos en zonder problemen gebruikt. Versie 5.2

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@pvspike als je routes in MRA nooit foutloos verlopen en in Osmand wel foutloos zou ik bijna zeggen dat je de routes in MRA met de OSM kaart hebt gemaakt ipv met de Here kaart.
Ik heb inmiddels al ruim 15000 km met MRA routes gereden. De laatste 2 jaar, zeg maar 10000 km nagenoeg foutloos met MRA next. Daar waar het in het verleden niet goed ging bleek dat proefondervindelijk aan mijn eigen in de route gemaakte fouten te hebben gelegen.
Dus als al jouw routes niet goed gaan moet je ff in de spiegel kijken.
Tip er zijn echt heel veel goede instructie filmpjes te zien hoe je de routes wel goed kunt maken. Ook kun je je inschrijven voor de gratis online cursussen die frequent worden aangeboden.
Bij problemen kun je ook dit forum raadplegen en dan gaan we je zeker van goed advies voorzien zodat je routes rijden weer fijn gaat worden op. Ergernis
Have fun

[pvspike]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom
Ik zeg niet dat ik misschien geen fout maak, maar ik heb al mijn route opgestuurd naar MRA en de route bleek foutloos te zijn. Ik heb al twee online cursussen gevolgd en heb mij al serieus verdiept in MRA. De routeplanner is top, maar het rijden gaat fout. Ik rijd met een iPhone 12 op een Honda NT 1100 en gebruik CarPlay op het Honda scherm. ik deed gisteren hetzelfde met Osmand en het ging van de eerste keer perfect. Dus het zal niet aan de motor liggen of aan het CarPlay scherm of aan de bekabelde verbinding of weet ik veel. Dus wat gaat er fout?

[Marinus van Deudekom]

De route op jouw CarPlay scherm is identiek aan die welke in je telefoon op het scherm komt.
Wel is het een bekend probleem, dat nog verder onderzocht wordt, de combinatie van sommige telefoons en CP of AA niet lekker verloopt.
Kun je aangeven wat er fout gaat zodat we je dat misschien mee kunnen helpen
Als we het probleem kunnen isoleren, kunnen we het in de regel ook oplossen.
De beperkingen die door Apple en Google zijn opgelegd zien niet op het navigeren zelf. Alleen op wat je op je CP scherm te zien kunt krijgen. Dat heeft op zich niks te maken met het navigeren zelf.
Stuur me anders en link naar een van die routes, dan kijk ik daar naar om je te helpen met het isoleren van het probleem

[M. Schrijver]

Gebruik je de originele kabel of een Apple Certified kabel. Dit kan absoluut invloed hebben op de stabiliteit.
Daarnaast moet je tijd wennen aan een stuk software. Ze namelijk allemaal bepaalde eigenaardigheden. Die moet je doorgronden

[Mzokk]

@pvspike I've been using MyRoute app as my primary navigation tool for the past 15 months despite having a Garmin Zumo XT. (Earlier testing is on this thread) two years ago. I have a 2021 MY Honda Africa twin with Android Auto and was using a wired connection until October 2025 until the wired connection to my phone got wet on tour (In Scotland) and I had to revert to my ZumoXT. I now use it with a wireless dongle. I have found the app very stable for over a year and have used it on 5 multi day trips in that period leading up to eight other riders. I have a lifetime gold subscription and the 5.2 iteration of the app is very good for me as I often design my routes with optional "Loops" so that they can be bypassed so I can now select a forward waypoint to bypass loops as required. I also use OSMand+ from time to time for off road tracks and hill walking. But it's much less user friendly than MRA for motorcycle navigation and creating Via points with information and skipping optional parts of routes is much more difficult as the navigation is Track based.

I keep my XT as a backup these days and for proximity alerted POI's which neither MRA or OSMand+ do.

[Gerard Wullink]

I am not saying @thomas-piechocki has no problems, but I have to say I am overall satisfied+ regarding MRA Navigation App. I rode Scotland with it on a €60 6,25" Wireless AA display from our Chinese friends. And Yes: every sometimes connection is lost. I thought I could reduce that to having a less good GPS signal, resulting in a position calculation error, which resulted in restart of the communication: BT connect, WiFi connect and on it goes; automaticly. Sometimes 5 times aday sometimes ten. This reaction might be dependent of the used AA display. Other improvement point, which is far more anoying, is the behaviour wg\hen you come to a standstill. suddenly the screen starts rotating, preferably in the opposite direction from where you came. If you have a bad direction-antenna like me, you are constantly turning arround because MRA tells you so. Look fairly simple to solve using the speed: under 5 kmh, no updates needed. edit: Meanwhile noticed: the "Map Spinning" issue.

For @thomas-piechocki: I use a S25 android phone with offline navigation as much as I can. This saves a lot battery and data. My phone is in the tankbag and is connected to a powerbank: always a stable supply. Hope this helps you a bit.

[jan tomassen]

Ik heb het zelfde meegemaakt, Met MRA Carplay er moet een Software fout in zitten. Vanaf de 5.2 update
Met de ander apps geen probleem, zoals Osmand en Kurvinger
ik zou zeggen duik daar eens in .
Gr Jan