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  • undefined HighPeakRider
    30 May 2024, 09:42

    @paul69 How have you mounted this to the bike, I assume you need to make some kind of custom mount?

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    Lynchy67
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    wrote on 30 May 2024, 13:40 last edited by
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    @HighPeakRider

    Check out the Brodit Mount specifically for the Samsung Active Tab 3.
    You can find it on Amazon.

    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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      No6671
      wrote on 31 May 2024, 13:02 last edited by
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      Just to throw this one in:

      Carpe Iter Pad. - As they write on their website, the actual Android is on the way.

      There is a BT solution for your handlebars. Often sold with the mentioned Carpe Iter. I bet, you can use them with the Galaxy, too.
      Just google "Carpe Iter controller".

      I want to ride some ACTs and TETs. Therefore I decided to buy this one. - Lets see, how it does on the route. 🙂

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      Get up. Travel. Make friends. Sleep. Repeat.

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        Ron Z
        wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 00:20 last edited by
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        Thank you all, I appreciate all the feedback! I just ordered a Galaxy Tab Active5 off eBay in open box condition. It was a bit more expensive than the Active3 but has a slightly brighter screen, faster processor and Android 14. Planning to get the RAM mount for it as well. Looking forward to getting out on the road with this.

        2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
        iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
        Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
        Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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        • undefined Ron Z
          1 Jun 2024, 00:20

          Thank you all, I appreciate all the feedback! I just ordered a Galaxy Tab Active5 off eBay in open box condition. It was a bit more expensive than the Active3 but has a slightly brighter screen, faster processor and Android 14. Planning to get the RAM mount for it as well. Looking forward to getting out on the road with this.

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          Marinus van Deudekom
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          wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 10:38 last edited by
          #22

          @Ron-Z hope that You Will share your findings with it. Especialy in therms of visibility in heavy sunlight

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • undefined HighPeakRider
            30 May 2024, 09:42

            @paul69 How have you mounted this to the bike, I assume you need to make some kind of custom mount?

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            paul69
            wrote on 1 Jun 2024, 18:04 last edited by
            #23

            hi @HighPeakRider

            yes i fashioned a holder not pretty but it did the job, you can pics in the thread
            https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/6209/some-advice-please/21?_=1717264451505

            i have since changed my bike to a K16, it will not fit now, so i have bought a ram X grip with a flexi arm. i do have the TFT screen and connected app, but at the moment i am not confident in relying solely on that. it is ok when it works, but has let me down occasionally, and it's a pain the a#€e to have to keep stopping, getting phone out of my pocket, or the little cubby hole at the front and resetting everything.
            MRA is far more reliable on my tablet.

            to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
            K1600 GTL
            Oukitel RT3
            iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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              Ron Z
              wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 00:15 last edited by Ron Z 6 May 2024, 00:22
              #24

              @Marinus-van-Deudekom I'll reply here with pics once I have it setup on the bike. I'm still waiting for the RAM mount to arrive. I just received the Active5 tablet, and can say it does get very bright. But I'll post a pic in direct sunlight after it's mounted on the bike..

              2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
              iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
              Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
              Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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              • undefined paul69
                1 Jun 2024, 18:04

                hi @HighPeakRider

                yes i fashioned a holder not pretty but it did the job, you can pics in the thread
                https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/6209/some-advice-please/21?_=1717264451505

                i have since changed my bike to a K16, it will not fit now, so i have bought a ram X grip with a flexi arm. i do have the TFT screen and connected app, but at the moment i am not confident in relying solely on that. it is ok when it works, but has let me down occasionally, and it's a pain the a#€e to have to keep stopping, getting phone out of my pocket, or the little cubby hole at the front and resetting everything.
                MRA is far more reliable on my tablet.

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                Ron Z
                wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 00:21 last edited by
                #25

                @paul69 I have a 2022 K16 GTL, and I'm hoping I can get the RAM mount I ordered setup on the bike. I plan on using the center stem mount, but I'll have to experiment with different RAM arms to see what will fit the best. Do you have a picture of how you mounted yours on the K16?

                And I agree about the BMW Connected App, and I just hate that there's no way to set shaping points that don't announce. Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.

                2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
                iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
                Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
                Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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                • undefined Ron Z
                  5 Jun 2024, 00:21

                  @paul69 I have a 2022 K16 GTL, and I'm hoping I can get the RAM mount I ordered setup on the bike. I plan on using the center stem mount, but I'll have to experiment with different RAM arms to see what will fit the best. Do you have a picture of how you mounted yours on the K16?

                  And I agree about the BMW Connected App, and I just hate that there's no way to set shaping points that don't announce. Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.

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                  paul69
                  wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 06:40 last edited by
                  #26

                  @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                  Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.

                  yes it is, and also constantly dropping out of connection.

                  i have not received the item yet, i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm, i will attach that to a handlebar mount, i can then place the tablet in any position i need.

                  to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                  K1600 GTL
                  Oukitel RT3
                  iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                  • undefined paul69
                    5 Jun 2024, 06:40

                    @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                    Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.

                    yes it is, and also constantly dropping out of connection.

                    i have not received the item yet, i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm, i will attach that to a handlebar mount, i can then place the tablet in any position i need.

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                    Ron Z
                    wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 03:09 last edited by
                    #27

                    @paul69 My setup with the TFT and Connected App has been very stable with my iPhone. I have all the latest updates to the TFT software, Connected App and phone.
                    But the issue I have with it is the lack of shaping points and the app’s recalculation algorithm. If BMW ever gets these things fixed I might go back to it. Having the ability to control everything - nav, music and phone via the bike’s control wheel and not having to take your hands off the bars is very nice.

                    2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
                    iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
                    Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
                    Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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                    • undefined paul69
                      5 Jun 2024, 06:40

                      @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                      Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.

                      yes it is, and also constantly dropping out of connection.

                      i have not received the item yet, i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm, i will attach that to a handlebar mount, i can then place the tablet in any position i need.

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                      Con Hennekens
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                      wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 07:12 last edited by
                      #28

                      @paul69 said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                      i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm

                      Hmm, with such an arm you can put your tablet right in your face... 😉
                      Are you not afraid such a long arm will swing around with vibrations on the bike? Especially since it is flexible?

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • undefined Con Hennekens
                        6 Jun 2024, 07:12

                        @paul69 said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                        i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm

                        Hmm, with such an arm you can put your tablet right in your face... 😉
                        Are you not afraid such a long arm will swing around with vibrations on the bike? Especially since it is flexible?

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                        paul69
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 07:31 last edited by
                        #29

                        hi @Con-Hennekens said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                        Hmm, with such an arm you can put your tablet right in your face...
                        Are you not afraid such a long arm will swing around with vibrations on the bike? Especially since it is flexible?

                        there is danger this may happen, I may be able to wrap the flexi arm around or through my bars, maybe even use cable ties, this is to try and stop it from obscuring the TFT, it is arriving today, i will have to experiment.

                        although if it does not work it will an expensive experiment, i will just have to sell it on ebay.

                        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                        K1600 GTL
                        Oukitel RT3
                        iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                        • undefined Ron Z
                          6 Jun 2024, 03:09

                          @paul69 My setup with the TFT and Connected App has been very stable with my iPhone. I have all the latest updates to the TFT software, Connected App and phone.
                          But the issue I have with it is the lack of shaping points and the app’s recalculation algorithm. If BMW ever gets these things fixed I might go back to it. Having the ability to control everything - nav, music and phone via the bike’s control wheel and not having to take your hands off the bars is very nice.

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                          paul69
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 08:11 last edited by
                          #30

                          @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                          My setup with the TFT and Connected App has been very stable with my iPhone. I have all the latest updates to the TFT software, Connected App and phone.

                          hi @Ron-Z

                          my devices and connected app are all updated, iPhone 13 pro, I went for a a short ride on Sunday, approx 3.5hrs, the TFT lost map view 3 times, my helmet remained connected as did my phone, the music was still playing. it is only the map view that drops out. This is why I will not trust it at the moment, oh yeh and also the continuous announcement of every way/via/shaping point or whatever label/name you want to use.
                          TBF the connection between phone, intercom and TFT is seamless, hopefully BMW will sort out the map view.

                          I could have purchased an XT or tomtom, but my tablet works perfectly fine.
                          as previously stated, i just need to find a suitable way of attaching it. see my reply to @Con-Hennekens, I might even super glue it to the screen of the bike 🤣 🤣

                          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                          K1600 GTL
                          Oukitel RT3
                          iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                            Gerard Wullink
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 09:49 last edited by
                            #31

                            Imho one evident advantage of using a tablet/phone on which you install the MRA Navigation Next app over using a dedicated GPS device is missing.

                            If you use MRA Navigation you do not have to export a gpx file (which version do I have to use?) in a certain format and copy thay to a device over a third party app/drive/system from Garmin/TomTom or upload them over USB to a device and hoping all information in the gpx will be used during the conversion of the gpx to a route on your device, using the maps en settings of your gps device, to stay on the route the planner intended. That's a lot of steps, one of them being the user. This is a very annoying pain in the a.. for a lot of gps device users out there.

                            When using MRA Navigation Next you just open the route (no gpx conversions!) on your phone/tablet, make it available offline (maps/route) and hit navigate. No conversions, so no missing data and when riding no connections needed. Easy as eating a banana.

                            This method also makes the MRA development team independant of gpx format definitions and limitations of gps devices. They could add everything they want. Example: add a url to a hard point in the route which gives you info about the opening times etc etc. No Limits!

                            If you want to use CarPlay or Android auto, there is a chance version may conflict or some new functionality is missing.

                            For me: tablet, absolutely. Downside: most normal tablets/phone use a USB micro or C connector, which does not fit the job. Too fragile and not watertight. Find a rugged one with pogo ins for power supply. Should you be needing Internet on the tablet for something else than MRA, use the hotspot on your phone and keep the phone safe in the pocket.

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                            • undefined paul69
                              6 Jun 2024, 08:11

                              @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                              My setup with the TFT and Connected App has been very stable with my iPhone. I have all the latest updates to the TFT software, Connected App and phone.

                              hi @Ron-Z

                              my devices and connected app are all updated, iPhone 13 pro, I went for a a short ride on Sunday, approx 3.5hrs, the TFT lost map view 3 times, my helmet remained connected as did my phone, the music was still playing. it is only the map view that drops out. This is why I will not trust it at the moment, oh yeh and also the continuous announcement of every way/via/shaping point or whatever label/name you want to use.
                              TBF the connection between phone, intercom and TFT is seamless, hopefully BMW will sort out the map view.

                              I could have purchased an XT or tomtom, but my tablet works perfectly fine.
                              as previously stated, i just need to find a suitable way of attaching it. see my reply to @Con-Hennekens, I might even super glue it to the screen of the bike 🤣 🤣

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                              wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 04:11 last edited by
                              #32

                              @paul69 You have to make sure Auto Join hotspots is off and ask to join hotspots is off. I also have my phone to never screen lock when I’m using the Connected App. I haven’t had any disconnect issues with these settings.

                              2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
                              iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
                              Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
                              Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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                                7 Jun 2024, 04:11

                                @paul69 You have to make sure Auto Join hotspots is off and ask to join hotspots is off. I also have my phone to never screen lock when I’m using the Connected App. I haven’t had any disconnect issues with these settings.

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                                wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 09:07 last edited by
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                                @Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                You have to make sure Auto Join hotspots is off and ask to join hotspots is off.

                                hi
                                i will definitely try this option. i never have an issue with the initial connection via the wifi, it is almost instant.
                                thanks for the tip

                                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                                K1600 GTL
                                Oukitel RT3
                                iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                                  Albert van den Elsen
                                  wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 12:54 last edited by
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                                  I use a Carpuride W702 in combination with Apple CarPlay. This works excellent for me.

                                  iPhone 15,
                                  Carpuride W702.
                                  Garmin Zumo XT(1) as backup
                                  Sena 20S EVO headset
                                  Harley Davidson Road King 2017 M8.

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                                  • Jörgenundefined Jörgen
                                    29 May 2024, 05:53

                                    Hi, I use an outdoor tablet about a year (a Oukitel RT3) it works perfect for me and I love the extras you do not have with an CarPlay display or Auto Andriod.

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                                    wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 23:11 last edited by PieterG 9 Jun 2024, 23:16
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                                    @Jörgen said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                    Oukitel RT3

                                    That seems a very good solution!
                                    What type of bike mount do you use, please?

                                    I drive a BMW R1250GS and I have the idea to make a custom adapter myself that fits into the original BMW navigator mount 😊

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                                      6 Sept 2024, 23:11

                                      @Jörgen said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                      Oukitel RT3

                                      That seems a very good solution!
                                      What type of bike mount do you use, please?

                                      I drive a BMW R1250GS and I have the idea to make a custom adapter myself that fits into the original BMW navigator mount 😊

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                                      wrote on 7 Sept 2024, 20:07 last edited by
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                                      @PieterG said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                      @Jörgen said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                      Oukitel RT3

                                      That seems a very good solution!
                                      What type of bike mount do you use, please?

                                      I drive a BMW R1250GS and I have the idea to make a custom adapter myself that fits into the original BMW navigator mount 😊

                                      I was using a center stem RAM ball mount with a RAM USB-C powered dock for the tablet.
                                      I have since switched bikes to an R18 Transcontinental. Therefor my 8" Android tablet is no longer suitable due to it's size.
                                      I now have a Carpuride W603D 6.3" CarPlay screen with front and rear dash cams.

                                      2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
                                      iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
                                      Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
                                      Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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                                      • Michel van Hagen MRA-Founderundefined Michel van Hagen MRA-Founder
                                        30 May 2024, 07:57

                                        It remains a personal choice. A CarPlay or Android tablet is relatively cheaper than a premium rugged tablet. But Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are less stable because you are dependent on multiple systems.

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                                        wrote on 8 Sept 2024, 06:35 last edited by
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                                        @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder Hi Michel, why should it be less stable? Other apps work fine with AA or AC. The functionality is less, but it can be very stable. I never had problems with Google Maps, Waze, Go Ride, Tom Tom. Only the MRA app seems to have problems with the Here map and AA. I think it takes a bit of development to improve the app, which i think is really a great app. Maybe,in stead of creating new options the focus should be on improving the AA and AC app?

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                                        • undefined PieterG
                                          6 Sept 2024, 23:11

                                          @Jörgen said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:

                                          Oukitel RT3

                                          That seems a very good solution!
                                          What type of bike mount do you use, please?

                                          I drive a BMW R1250GS and I have the idea to make a custom adapter myself that fits into the original BMW navigator mount 😊

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                                          wrote on 15 Sept 2024, 19:15 last edited by
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                                          @PieterG Also, if your bike has the BMW navigation cradle, check out Carpuride's W502B Pro or W702B Pro CarPlay screens - they'll connect directly to the BMW mount with no adapter needed.

                                          2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
                                          iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
                                          Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras
                                          Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount

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