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What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?

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  • Thomas Scharrer Thomas Scharrer

    @M-Schrijver
    Have tried this now and I can see the the functions or navigation options in the menu below the start button are not saved permanently so you need enable/ disable them every time..... thats also good to know, not just to to press start but first choose the options you want each time

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    @Thomas-Scharrer the options are the ones you activated saving the route. Calculating from this point is default on. So I think there’s no need to make this menu bigger by default

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT sold
    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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    • GT JWR GT JWR

      @Thomas-Scharrer that has been my experience as well. You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior. It can be done one by one, or if you know the next waypoint, long press it, say yes, and it will start where you are.

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      @GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.

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      • abowen abowen

        @GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.

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        #16

        @Alan-Bowen if it is in CarPlay, I haven't been able to find it/make it work...I do it from the app.

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        • M. Schrijver Offline
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          #17

          No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

            No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed

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            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            @M-Schrijver correct!
            Things like this are not very trivial for CarPlay / Android Auto πŸ™‚

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              Not very trivial?
              The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
              MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                Not very trivial?
                The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
                MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.

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                @M-Schrijver resuming navigation is possible from Android Auto, resulting in the route resuming exactly from where you stopped it.

                Waypoints can be skipped directly from Android Auto one by one.

                Skipping a lot of waypoints in one go is only possible directly from your phone. In the future that will be possible from Android Auto too πŸ™‚

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                  #21

                  I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

                  When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

                  I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                    I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

                    When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

                    I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

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                    wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                    #22

                    @M-Schrijver, No single device does mind reading like you seem to want. I Personally would hate it if my Navigation chose the WP to start start a route, only based on it accidentally being closest. Don't blame the app for your problem of having a crippled AA/CP without touchscreen. If you want ALL functions of the app, just use a smartphone.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                      #23

                      You call it crippled. I call it the future.
                      I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.

                      Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
                      Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
                      This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

                      This is also my goal.

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                        You call it crippled. I call it the future.
                        I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.

                        Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
                        Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
                        This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

                        This is also my goal.

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                        wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                        #24

                        @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                        Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
                        This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

                        Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.

                        On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible πŸ˜‰ ). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                          @GT-JWR, you are welcome to substantiate your downvote on my previous message πŸ˜‰

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                          • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                            @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                            Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
                            This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

                            Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.

                            On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible πŸ˜‰ ). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...

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                            #26

                            @Con-Hennekens
                            I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".

                            What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
                            A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                            MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
                            When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
                            Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.

                            A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.

                            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                            • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                              @Con-Hennekens
                              I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".

                              What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
                              A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                              MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
                              When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
                              Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.

                              A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.

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                              wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
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                              @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                              A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                              This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.

                              I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                              • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                                A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                                This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.

                                I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.

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                                @Con-Hennekens πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ€£πŸ€£

                                R1250GS. Started with a Zumo 550, BMW nav IV, Carpe-iter and now Chigee met MRA app.

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                                • Leike Lodiers Leike Lodiers

                                  @Con-Hennekens πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ€£πŸ€£

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                                  @Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable πŸ˜‰

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                    @Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable πŸ˜‰

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                                    @Con-Hennekens yep fore shore....

                                    R1250GS. Started with a Zumo 550, BMW nav IV, Carpe-iter and now Chigee met MRA app.

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