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Roundabout exit and routing

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  • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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    RetiredWingMan
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    I was out today and ran into a couple of issues. Version 4.1.1 295

    1st, I also saw the situation where MRA was saying take exit 1 from a roundabout instead on exit 2.

    Screenshot_20240421_083837.jpg

    The second issue was during an A to B route. My understanding is that a straight A to B route is a route and not a track. I'm surprised that when I deviated from the route, MRA insisted that I back track to get back to the original route rather than just recalculating to the final destination.

    Screenshot_20240421_100051.jpg

    Screenshot_20240421_100111.jpg

    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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    • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

      I was out today and ran into a couple of issues. Version 4.1.1 295

      1st, I also saw the situation where MRA was saying take exit 1 from a roundabout instead on exit 2.

      Screenshot_20240421_083837.jpg

      The second issue was during an A to B route. My understanding is that a straight A to B route is a route and not a track. I'm surprised that when I deviated from the route, MRA insisted that I back track to get back to the original route rather than just recalculating to the final destination.

      Screenshot_20240421_100051.jpg

      Screenshot_20240421_100111.jpg

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      #2

      I tested the new version v4.1.2 (302)

      Roundabouts are correct now.

      Also Routing from current place to a target was ok.
      Maybe re-calculation to the target was a bit late from my perspective but it worked. Afer some tries to turn around it calculated a new route to the target.

      BUT: If you do not follow the route at the very end of the route and then try to aproach the target from the other side, MyRouteApp continues navigation and turns around to approach the target from the "right" side.
      This is a bit strange..
      approach from other direction.jpg

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      • Tom Johannundefined Tom Johann

        I tested the new version v4.1.2 (302)

        Roundabouts are correct now.

        Also Routing from current place to a target was ok.
        Maybe re-calculation to the target was a bit late from my perspective but it worked. Afer some tries to turn around it calculated a new route to the target.

        BUT: If you do not follow the route at the very end of the route and then try to aproach the target from the other side, MyRouteApp continues navigation and turns around to approach the target from the "right" side.
        This is a bit strange..
        approach from other direction.jpg

        Stefan Hummelinkundefined Offline
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        Stefan Hummelink
        Alpha tester
        wrote on last edited by Stefan Hummelink
        #3

        @Tom-Johann said in Roundabout exit and routing:

        This is a bit strange.

        This is by design! Many users prefer to have the navi NOT stop. What if for any reason you cannot reach the destination directly, i.e. you cannot park directly in front of the destination. Then this option provides you with the possibility to be navigated back to your destination on foot. You still have to take your phone with you, so it is not very hard to press two buttons to stop the navi. 😄

        Long story short: it is by design, and personally, I really like it. 😄

        Manks bu'j te bange.

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        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

          @Tom-Johann said in Roundabout exit and routing:

          This is a bit strange.

          This is by design! Many users prefer to have the navi NOT stop. What if for any reason you cannot reach the destination directly, i.e. you cannot park directly in front of the destination. Then this option provides you with the possibility to be navigated back to your destination on foot. You still have to take your phone with you, so it is not very hard to press two buttons to stop the navi. 😄

          Long story short: it is by design, and personally, I really like it. 😄

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          @Stefan-Hummelink said in Roundabout exit and routing:

          short: it is by design, and perso

          Not stopping the Navigation is not my point.
          When I don't follow the Navigation exactly and so I approach the target from the other direction than the Navigation tried to approach first, than the Navigation leads me not directly to the target but passes the target and turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

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          • Tom Johannundefined Tom Johann

            @Stefan-Hummelink said in Roundabout exit and routing:

            short: it is by design, and perso

            Not stopping the Navigation is not my point.
            When I don't follow the Navigation exactly and so I approach the target from the other direction than the Navigation tried to approach first, than the Navigation leads me not directly to the target but passes the target and turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

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            wrote on last edited by Stefan Hummelink
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            @Tom-Johann said in Roundabout exit and routing:

            turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

            This is absolute weird. This situation may occur when a shaping point you missed and was not autoskipped, is on the other side of the target and it shall still be passed. In this case nothing prohibits you from manually stopping the nav.

            Edit: I looked more closely and this behaviour is indeed a bit weird since your figure does not show a missed waypoint, the nav should have seen that you've reached the destination

            Manks bu'j te bange.

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            • Tom Johannundefined Tom Johann

              @Stefan-Hummelink said in Roundabout exit and routing:

              short: it is by design, and perso

              Not stopping the Navigation is not my point.
              When I don't follow the Navigation exactly and so I approach the target from the other direction than the Navigation tried to approach first, than the Navigation leads me not directly to the target but passes the target and turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

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              @Tom-Johann said in Roundabout exit and routing:

              When I don't follow the Navigation exactly and so I approach the target from the other direction than the Navigation tried to approach first, than the Navigation leads me not directly to the target but passes the target and turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

              In the picture it looks like you already passed the target, and the app is providing a route with a safe turn-around. If it plotted this route already before reaching target, it might be caused by the WP not being on the road, but beside the road on the other side of the road. Just thinking aloud... 😉

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                @Tom-Johann said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                When I don't follow the Navigation exactly and so I approach the target from the other direction than the Navigation tried to approach first, than the Navigation leads me not directly to the target but passes the target and turns around in order to approach the target from the former direction.

                In the picture it looks like you already passed the target, and the app is providing a route with a safe turn-around. If it plotted this route already before reaching target, it might be caused by the WP not being on the road, but beside the road on the other side of the road. Just thinking aloud... 😉

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                @Con-Hennekens said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                it looks like you already passed the target, and the app is providing a route with a safe turn-around

                And this is exactly by design. The app will always route you back to your destination safely, independent of the direction you're coming from. If the user follows the navi instructions as given in the figure, he circles back to the destination and succesively passes it again, it will reroute to the destination through the junction he came through the first time haha. And this keeps going on forever untill users cancel the nav themselves. 😊

                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                • Tom Johannundefined Tom Johann

                  I tested the new version v4.1.2 (302)

                  Roundabouts are correct now.

                  Also Routing from current place to a target was ok.
                  Maybe re-calculation to the target was a bit late from my perspective but it worked. Afer some tries to turn around it calculated a new route to the target.

                  BUT: If you do not follow the route at the very end of the route and then try to aproach the target from the other side, MyRouteApp continues navigation and turns around to approach the target from the "right" side.
                  This is a bit strange..
                  approach from other direction.jpg

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                  #8

                  @Tom-Johann nice to hear that 302 fixes the roundabout issue. Still waiting for it to be released for Android.

                  2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                  • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                    @Con-Hennekens said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                    it looks like you already passed the target, and the app is providing a route with a safe turn-around

                    And this is exactly by design. The app will always route you back to your destination safely, independent of the direction you're coming from. If the user follows the navi instructions as given in the figure, he circles back to the destination and succesively passes it again, it will reroute to the destination through the junction he came through the first time haha. And this keeps going on forever untill users cancel the nav themselves. 😊

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                    @Stefan-Hummelink, I know you know that I know that... 🤣 🤣

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Stefan-Hummelink, I know you know that I know that... 🤣 🤣

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                      @Con-Hennekens said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                      I know you know that I know that...

                      But I knew, the other users here didn't know that I know you knew.

                      Hmmm, where is this getting to haha😂

                      Manks bu'j te bange.

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                      • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                        I know you know that I know that...

                        But I knew, the other users here didn't know that I know you knew.

                        Hmmm, where is this getting to haha😂

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                        @Stefan-Hummelink said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                        I know you know that I know that...

                        But I knew, the other users here didn't know that I know you knew.

                        Hmmm, where is this getting to haha😂

                        I didn’t have a clue who knew 😀

                        Always willing to help if I can.
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                          @Peter-Schiefer said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                          In close to 20 years with Sat Nav I never came to such situation.

                          Okay, in that regard: what would be the problem with having the navi NOT autostopped which you seem in favor of? Haha. As I said, removing the phone from your phone holder, requires your manual interaction with the device, so pressing two buttons is an issue suddenly haha?

                          Imho there is more motivation for autostop disabled, rather there is for it to be enabled.
                          I mean: it is more work/of a hassle to restart the nav to get back to destination for people that want no autostop, than it is for users that want autostop, to manually stop the nav... Ya know what I'm getting at right haha?

                          Manks bu'j te bange.

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                            @Peter-Schiefer said in Roundabout exit and routing:

                            your answer was quicker than my thougts.

                            Hehehe. 😎

                            Manks bu'j te bange.

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