Timmelsjoch HERE / MRA mapping problem...
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@Tom-Grzelinski the problem lies in a little piece of road on the Timmelsjoch in the direction of Sölden. If you place the shapingpoints like this, the problem should be solved. Try to toggle with point 54, drag it somewhat to the south and you will see that the problem comes back again. The markers in my example should solve it.
@travellexwill-cyou
Thanks Will. I will try this but I am not sure this is the total problem.When I was first building the route I got to 53 then searched for Timmelsjoch in MRA, choosing this:
Timmelsjoch High Alpine Road
46.911210, 11.087460and placed a waypoint. Straight away the map would not route between 53 and this point. I had to add lots and lots of waypoints between 53 and this waypoint to make MRA make a direct route.
So, I think maybe the whole area has a problem. Maybe seasonal closing is not being ignored here?
This is not a massive problem for my trip as when I break the map in to separate days, it should work. And also I am intelligent enough not to get up in the morning and let the map take me to Innsbruck
but I think the problem needs investigating and fixing in MRA or HERE, whichever is at fault.Thanks for your help
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iPhone 14 Pro running Waze, Saphe and MRA.
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@travellexwill-cyou
Thanks Will. I will try this but I am not sure this is the total problem.When I was first building the route I got to 53 then searched for Timmelsjoch in MRA, choosing this:
Timmelsjoch High Alpine Road
46.911210, 11.087460and placed a waypoint. Straight away the map would not route between 53 and this point. I had to add lots and lots of waypoints between 53 and this waypoint to make MRA make a direct route.
So, I think maybe the whole area has a problem. Maybe seasonal closing is not being ignored here?
This is not a massive problem for my trip as when I break the map in to separate days, it should work. And also I am intelligent enough not to get up in the morning and let the map take me to Innsbruck
but I think the problem needs investigating and fixing in MRA or HERE, whichever is at fault.Thanks for your help
@Tom-Grzelinski there is something strange with the Timmelsjoch, that is correct, because I deleted the 2 points, and the route stayed the same
But the problem is only a small strip around the top. It might be the seasonal closing, but in some way that is working, because when I disable (or able) the seasonal closure I see this
, so yeah it is working, but yeah, there is something spooky at the Timmelsjoch. Just travel to the place, enjoy it all, because it is fabulous over there and ignore the problems on your navigation. By the way Basecamp has the same problems with this stupid mountain.
Greetings,
LexGeluk/verliefdheid is net als in je broek plassen. Iedereen ziet het alleen jij voelt het.
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I noticed this anomaly last year. I did write something on the forum.
it is a lesson learned for me, it is not a major issue, as long as you are aware when planning the routes.
if you did not check them and send them to friends, then you would be parting ways at the approach road to the passes.I planned my routes, around the Alps. then save and close the MRA planner.
When I went back a few days later, to add another route or to amend a route, I found some routes had changed, especially on the passes, without my input.
I do not know why this happened.what I will add, after end of May, this stopped happening, so it has to be something to with the passes being shut in the winter.
also, as you have found, it made no difference if seasonal closure was ticked/disbaled or not.I now make sure that when I plan a route, if its the final version, I will make a track out of it, that way I always have the original planned route.
I have not made routes in the alps this year so I am unaware if this still happens, but it looks like it does.
I am touring the Scottish highlands/Lake District/Yorkshire Dales, so no high passes, but still awesome.
to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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@Tom-Grzelinski there is something strange with the Timmelsjoch, that is correct, because I deleted the 2 points, and the route stayed the same
But the problem is only a small strip around the top. It might be the seasonal closing, but in some way that is working, because when I disable (or able) the seasonal closure I see this , so yeah it is working, but yeah, there is something spooky at the Timmelsjoch. Just travel to the place, enjoy it all, because it is fabulous over there and ignore the problems on your navigation. By the way Basecamp has the same problems with this stupid mountain.
Greetings,
Lex@travellexwill-cyou
Thanks Lex. Sorry I read your name wrong!Porsche 911 and VW Transporter T6.1 running CarPlay.
iPhone 14 Pro running Waze, Saphe and MRA.
MRA Routeplanner on web via Mac -
I noticed this anomaly last year. I did write something on the forum.
it is a lesson learned for me, it is not a major issue, as long as you are aware when planning the routes.
if you did not check them and send them to friends, then you would be parting ways at the approach road to the passes.I planned my routes, around the Alps. then save and close the MRA planner.
When I went back a few days later, to add another route or to amend a route, I found some routes had changed, especially on the passes, without my input.
I do not know why this happened.what I will add, after end of May, this stopped happening, so it has to be something to with the passes being shut in the winter.
also, as you have found, it made no difference if seasonal closure was ticked/disbaled or not.I now make sure that when I plan a route, if its the final version, I will make a track out of it, that way I always have the original planned route.
I have not made routes in the alps this year so I am unaware if this still happens, but it looks like it does.
I am touring the Scottish highlands/Lake District/Yorkshire Dales, so no high passes, but still awesome.
@paul69
Thanks Paul. Enjoy Scotland, we will be doing some of Scotland next year in our camper. -
@travellexwill-cyou
Thanks Lex. Sorry I read your name wrong!@Tom-Grzelinski no worries it's OK, since you are riding a Ducati
PECCO!!!
