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  • undefined RetiredWingMan
    5 Feb 2024, 23:10

    @Hans-Lamers misleading. As far as the phone is concerned, the output of the charger/adaptor is 5V at a max of 3 amps = 15 w. I hope my recently purchased Quadlock wireless charger does better than yours. I purchased the 15w version that needs to be direct wired to a 12v source rather than plugging into a USB port. I have also found that the quality of the USB cable can seriously affect charging rates. Keep cables as short as possible.

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    Edwin_M
    wrote on 6 Feb 2024, 05:51 last edited by
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    @Doug-Robinson I bought the same setup for that reason too. I was always doubtful using it with my s21fe. The battery usage issues with the app blurred my sight on it a bit.
    I was hoping that the s24+ with better processor screen etc would perform better
    But now it seems to be an issue with the quadlock wireless charging head.
    Maybe we should create a separate forum topic on the subject.

    Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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    • undefined RetiredWingMan
      5 Feb 2024, 23:10

      @Hans-Lamers misleading. As far as the phone is concerned, the output of the charger/adaptor is 5V at a max of 3 amps = 15 w. I hope my recently purchased Quadlock wireless charger does better than yours. I purchased the 15w version that needs to be direct wired to a 12v source rather than plugging into a USB port. I have also found that the quality of the USB cable can seriously affect charging rates. Keep cables as short as possible.

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      Dikke Wim
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      wrote on 6 Feb 2024, 12:24 last edited by Dikke Wim 2 Jun 2024, 12:25
      #26

      @Doug-Robinson
      My Quadlock wireless charger also cannot keep up with the drainage of battery while using MRA. I'm using an iPhone 13 Pro Max.

      Thanks for the tip to look into the charging cable!

      BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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      • undefined Dikke Wim
        6 Feb 2024, 12:24

        @Doug-Robinson
        My Quadlock wireless charger also cannot keep up with the drainage of battery while using MRA. I'm using an iPhone 13 Pro Max.

        Thanks for the tip to look into the charging cable!

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        Hubert Thoring
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        wrote on 6 Feb 2024, 14:22 last edited by
        #27

        @Dikke-Wim :

        I use an iPhone Xr in the BMW cradle, which fits well. I haven't had any battery problems so far and everything was great for the whole day, even on a longer tour.
        There were several apps open...

        ——-

        Ich nutze ein iPhone Xr im BMW Cradel, das passt gut. Ich hatte bis jetzt keine Akku Probleme und auch bei einer längeren Toure für den ganzen Tag alles Top.

        Es waren mehre Apps geöffnet, …

        VG Hubert
        Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
        iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
        ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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        • undefined Hubert Thoring
          6 Feb 2024, 14:22

          @Dikke-Wim :

          I use an iPhone Xr in the BMW cradle, which fits well. I haven't had any battery problems so far and everything was great for the whole day, even on a longer tour.
          There were several apps open...

          ——-

          Ich nutze ein iPhone Xr im BMW Cradel, das passt gut. Ich hatte bis jetzt keine Akku Probleme und auch bei einer längeren Toure für den ganzen Tag alles Top.

          Es waren mehre Apps geöffnet, …

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          RouteXpert
          wrote on 6 Feb 2024, 14:33 last edited by
          #28

          @Hubert-Thoring

          I think the BMW cradle supplies more power than the Quadlock or SP connect.

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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          • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
            6 Feb 2024, 14:33

            @Hubert-Thoring

            I think the BMW cradle supplies more power than the Quadlock or SP connect.

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            Edwin_M
            wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 11:05 last edited by Edwin_M 2 Aug 2024, 11:10
            #29

            I did some additional testing and I must say that I am dissapointed in the performance of the Quadlock Wireless Charger (with USB connection). It is a very expensive accessory and it is advertised to reach up to 10W with Galaxy devices. (using a good power supply ofcourse).
            And yes the power drain of the MRA next app is still on the high side.

            In short , the wireless charger does not exceed 6W of power supply in my tests.

            Phone is an S24+ .
            Case is a Quadlock Mag Case
            I have the USB connection version of the Wireless charging head. combined with the Motorcycle - Waterproof 12V To USB Smart Adaptor - Quad Lock® Europe - Official Store (quadlockcase.eu)

            I did some testing:

            1. Checked on phone: Turned of battery protection and checked all battery fast charging options are on. Used an additional quality USB-A to USB-C cable to test (otherwise I'll need to get a lot of covers of of my motorcycle) all fast charge options are enabled
            2. Without Quadlock: tested directly on the a charger : outcomes: On an USB-A output max 2,4A => 7 W charging second USB-A output with a QC3.0 => 12,5 W.
              3, Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable wired directly on the 12V Quadlock convertor => 12 W
            3. Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable from the 12V quadlock convertor to the wireless head = 6W
            4. Quadlock wireless charging head connected to wall charger (as in bullet 2): 1. on QC3.0 port => 6W max via charging head second on normal port max 2,4A resulting in 3,4W max via charging head

            response of Quadlock on results:
            *Our wireless charging head has advertising on our product page to charge at a maximum of 10W, as yours is charging at 5W it still sitting with the expected performance.

            Just to note that you will always have a faster charging speed using a cable as this is not surprising because we can't expect the wireless charge to perform the same.*

            The latter is obvious. But losing 6W over the wireless charging head is dissapointing to say the least.
            (i found that , with a 100 km roundtour, first edit in Routeplanner online) using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.
            Also must state that I am always using Flitsmeister AND youtube music in background as well;

            Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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              Flat Twin Therapy
              wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 11:23 last edited by
              #30

              While it might be true or not that Quadlock does not charge as advertised, it still does charge my phone when navigating using another app like Waze and Google Maps, and MRA is draining the battery.

              Also, the charger in my car (USB outlet in dashboard / not quadlock) does charge the battery when navigating with other apps, while the battery drains when using MRA.

              (Android)

              Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
              https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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              • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                8 Feb 2024, 11:23

                While it might be true or not that Quadlock does not charge as advertised, it still does charge my phone when navigating using another app like Waze and Google Maps, and MRA is draining the battery.

                Also, the charger in my car (USB outlet in dashboard / not quadlock) does charge the battery when navigating with other apps, while the battery drains when using MRA.

                (Android)

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                Edwin_M
                wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 11:25 last edited by
                #31

                @Flat-Twin-Therapy agree

                Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                  richtea999
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                  wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 16:19 last edited by richtea999 2 Aug 2024, 16:19
                  #32

                  @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

                  ...I found that ... using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.

                  Not to allow HERE off the hook, but Dark mode is a good work-around until they pull their finger out and fix the problem for MRA.

                  It works for me, and will decrease battery usage on any phone with an OLED / AMOLED display, because they require power to light each pixel (rather than having a screen-wide backlight).

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                  • undefined Edwin_M
                    8 Feb 2024, 11:05

                    I did some additional testing and I must say that I am dissapointed in the performance of the Quadlock Wireless Charger (with USB connection). It is a very expensive accessory and it is advertised to reach up to 10W with Galaxy devices. (using a good power supply ofcourse).
                    And yes the power drain of the MRA next app is still on the high side.

                    In short , the wireless charger does not exceed 6W of power supply in my tests.

                    Phone is an S24+ .
                    Case is a Quadlock Mag Case
                    I have the USB connection version of the Wireless charging head. combined with the Motorcycle - Waterproof 12V To USB Smart Adaptor - Quad Lock® Europe - Official Store (quadlockcase.eu)

                    I did some testing:

                    1. Checked on phone: Turned of battery protection and checked all battery fast charging options are on. Used an additional quality USB-A to USB-C cable to test (otherwise I'll need to get a lot of covers of of my motorcycle) all fast charge options are enabled
                    2. Without Quadlock: tested directly on the a charger : outcomes: On an USB-A output max 2,4A => 7 W charging second USB-A output with a QC3.0 => 12,5 W.
                      3, Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable wired directly on the 12V Quadlock convertor => 12 W
                    3. Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable from the 12V quadlock convertor to the wireless head = 6W
                    4. Quadlock wireless charging head connected to wall charger (as in bullet 2): 1. on QC3.0 port => 6W max via charging head second on normal port max 2,4A resulting in 3,4W max via charging head

                    response of Quadlock on results:
                    *Our wireless charging head has advertising on our product page to charge at a maximum of 10W, as yours is charging at 5W it still sitting with the expected performance.

                    Just to note that you will always have a faster charging speed using a cable as this is not surprising because we can't expect the wireless charge to perform the same.*

                    The latter is obvious. But losing 6W over the wireless charging head is dissapointing to say the least.
                    (i found that , with a 100 km roundtour, first edit in Routeplanner online) using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.
                    Also must state that I am always using Flitsmeister AND youtube music in background as well;

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                    RetiredWingMan
                    Valued contributor
                    wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 19:21 last edited by
                    #33

                    @Edwin_M what app are you using to measure/monitor the charging power?

                    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                    • undefined RetiredWingMan
                      8 Feb 2024, 19:21

                      @Edwin_M what app are you using to measure/monitor the charging power?

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                      Edwin_M
                      wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 19:29 last edited by
                      #34

                      @Doug-Robinson accubattery

                      Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                      • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                        8 Feb 2024, 11:23

                        While it might be true or not that Quadlock does not charge as advertised, it still does charge my phone when navigating using another app like Waze and Google Maps, and MRA is draining the battery.

                        Also, the charger in my car (USB outlet in dashboard / not quadlock) does charge the battery when navigating with other apps, while the battery drains when using MRA.

                        (Android)

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                        Dikke Wim
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on 8 Feb 2024, 20:01 last edited by Dikke Wim 2 Aug 2024, 20:02
                        #35

                        @Flat-Twin-Therapy
                        Besides the fact that the Quadlock wireless charges is not "strong" enough, some smartphones may stop charging because of a tempertaure that becomes too high as a result of all the calculations MyRoute has to do. See below:

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                        BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                          Jörgen
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                          wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 08:24 last edited by Jörgen 2 Sept 2024, 09:08
                          #36

                          Just for information, with my Oukitel outdoor tablet I noticed that changing the USB charging cable it fixed the battery loading problem. The first cable did not supply enough power. First, I thought the 12/5V converter was the issue, but it was the cable.

                          Anyway, has someone tried to see if Here's own navigation app has the same issue with power consumption?

                          Hardware
                          iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                          Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                          For more information, click here

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                          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen
                            9 Feb 2024, 08:24

                            Just for information, with my Oukitel outdoor tablet I noticed that changing the USB charging cable it fixed the battery loading problem. The first cable did not supply enough power. First, I thought the 12/5V converter was the issue, but it was the cable.

                            Anyway, has someone tried to see if Here's own navigation app has the same issue with power consumption?

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                            wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 08:34 last edited by
                            #37

                            @Jörgen https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/33259

                            Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink
                              3 Feb 2024, 11:22

                              @Flat-Twin-Therapy no offence taken!
                              It bothers me probably the most as not only user but also as person responsible for the technical stability / usability of the app.
                              I have a meeting with HERE development next week in which they will update me on their progress 🙂

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                              wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 18:46 last edited by
                              #38

                              @Corjan-Meijerink any Update/progress from the meeting with HERE?

                              Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                                Ton Verkleij
                                wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:16 last edited by
                                #39

                                @Corjan-Meijerink
                                Hello,

                                I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

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                                • Ton Verkleijundefined Ton Verkleij
                                  27 Feb 2024, 15:16

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink
                                  Hello,

                                  I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

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                                  richtea999
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                                  wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:30 last edited by richtea999
                                  #40

                                  @Ton-Verkleij said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink
                                  Hello,

                                  I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

                                  I'm pretty sure Android Auto needs a smartphone to work. How were you hoping to install the app? (unless your vehicle's head unit is really a smartphone/tablet in disguise)

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                                    27 Feb 2024, 15:30

                                    @Ton-Verkleij said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                                    Hello,

                                    I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

                                    I'm pretty sure Android Auto needs a smartphone to work. How were you hoping to install the app? (unless your vehicle's head unit is really a smartphone/tablet in disguise)

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                                    wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:35 last edited by
                                    #41

                                    @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

                                    https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                                    • Ton Verkleijundefined Ton Verkleij
                                      27 Feb 2024, 15:35

                                      @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

                                      https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                                      Alpha tester
                                      wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 10:25 last edited by
                                      #42

                                      @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      • Ton Verkleijundefined Ton Verkleij
                                        27 Feb 2024, 15:35

                                        @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

                                        https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                                        wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 12:29 last edited by
                                        #43

                                        @Ton-Verkleij The Chigee looks good, Ton, but only for certain predefined features. It does have a GPS module, so in theory it might be possible for MRA to supply Chigee with a build that runs standalone, but to be honest, it's a market of 1 versus 20k different models of Android devices.

                                        You're asking for the Chigee to be become a satnav as well as everything else, but all the satnav downsides would come with that, i.e.:

                                        • infrequent updates to functionality, if any
                                        • you're tied in to Chigee's satnav design - no swapping devices
                                        • when it busts you have to buy another one, which will include paying for the new satnav 'module' again.
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                                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens
                                          28 Feb 2024, 10:25

                                          @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

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                                          wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 12:39 last edited by
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                                          @Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                          @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                                          Maybe Ton is confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

                                          My car, a Polestar, runs Android Automotive and doesn’t offer Android Auto. You install the apps on the car, not your phone. Since the car doesn’t so Android Auto, you can’t use MRA unless you’re an iPhone user (the car does support CarPlay).

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