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  • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Flat Twin Therapy

    @Corjan-Meijerink
    Any news on the Android Battery drain issue? In 10 days it is exactly 1 year since I first reported it...(perhaps others mentioned it earlier?)...

    Since then I only hear that HERE should fix it.
    But MRA is depending on it and using the app to navigate on android for a route a bit longer is just not working properly, which is one of MRA's main features...
    I love the MRA product (Web+App) but I'm avoiding use for longer routes due to this issue, while MRA would be my first and only tool if the battery Drain would not exist.

    Can MRA work on an alternative solution for this issue?! (not using HERE?!)
    Or, if I'm the only one having the issue, please let me know, then I'll search for an alternative way of handling.

    Thanks
    (sorry if I sound harsh, I don't want to be that. I'm actuallt very happy with the product and bought Gold membership even though I know this issue before buying it; want to support MRA 🙂 Even promoted it in my YouTube MotoVlog
    Let me know if there's anything else I can help out with, like sharing logs or alpha builds, whatever)

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    @Flat-Twin-Therapy no offence taken!
    It bothers me probably the most as not only user but also as person responsible for the technical stability / usability of the app.
    I have a meeting with HERE development next week in which they will update me on their progress 🙂

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      @Flat-Twin-Therapy no offence taken!
      It bothers me probably the most as not only user but also as person responsible for the technical stability / usability of the app.
      I have a meeting with HERE development next week in which they will update me on their progress 🙂

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      @Corjan-Meijerink 👍 👏

      Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
      https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

        @Flat-Twin-Therapy no offence taken!
        It bothers me probably the most as not only user but also as person responsible for the technical stability / usability of the app.
        I have a meeting with HERE development next week in which they will update me on their progress 🙂

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        @Corjan-Meijerink clearly no progress yet as a user 😞

        Did a round tour today with the quadlock wireless charger and 12 volt quadlock converter on a s24+.
        But when also using tracking, the app is asking more than can be provided.

        Also noticed a strange thing in one occasion on a roundabout with 4 roads it suggested to take the 6th!! Exit instead of 2nd.

        I also think that the android reduced music sound level issue after one of the notifications (not sure which one) is still there.

        Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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        • Edwin_Mundefined Edwin_M

          @Corjan-Meijerink clearly no progress yet as a user 😞

          Did a round tour today with the quadlock wireless charger and 12 volt quadlock converter on a s24+.
          But when also using tracking, the app is asking more than can be provided.

          Also noticed a strange thing in one occasion on a roundabout with 4 roads it suggested to take the 6th!! Exit instead of 2nd.

          I also think that the android reduced music sound level issue after one of the notifications (not sure which one) is still there.

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          @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

          But when also using tracking, the app is asking more than can be provided.

          It might be worthwhile to download the app "Ampere". It provides insight to what power the charger is giving to your phone. Sometimes even a cheap cable can reduce the charge-power to just 7.7 Watts. The complete chain of phone, cable and charger need to be compatible to be able to charge at maximum power.

          I am not denying the the battery usage problem of the app, merely stating that people often charge at a lot less powerful level than they think.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

            But when also using tracking, the app is asking more than can be provided.

            It might be worthwhile to download the app "Ampere". It provides insight to what power the charger is giving to your phone. Sometimes even a cheap cable can reduce the charge-power to just 7.7 Watts. The complete chain of phone, cable and charger need to be compatible to be able to charge at maximum power.

            I am not denying the the battery usage problem of the app, merely stating that people often charge at a lot less powerful level than they think.

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            @Con-Hennekens using accubattery

            In this case it is really clear what the cause is..I also saw a significant difference when not tracking.

            Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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            • Edwin_Mundefined Edwin_M

              @Con-Hennekens using accubattery

              In this case it is really clear what the cause is..I also saw a significant difference when not tracking.

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              @Edwin_M, Yes it may be rather clear what the cause is, but it might not be so clear how weak you could be charging 😉

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Edwin_Mundefined Edwin_M

                @Corjan-Meijerink clearly no progress yet as a user 😞

                Did a round tour today with the quadlock wireless charger and 12 volt quadlock converter on a s24+.
                But when also using tracking, the app is asking more than can be provided.

                Also noticed a strange thing in one occasion on a roundabout with 4 roads it suggested to take the 6th!! Exit instead of 2nd.

                I also think that the android reduced music sound level issue after one of the notifications (not sure which one) is still there.

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                @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

                Vandaag een rondje gemaakt met de quadlock draadloze oplader en 12 volt quadlock omvormer op een s24+.
                Maar als er ook gebruik wordt gemaakt van tracking, vraagt ​​de app meer dan kan worden geboden.

                Ik heb ook veel problemen gehad met mijn S23 ultra en de Quadlock draadloze oplader. Ik heb het voorlopig zo opgelost:
                Op mijn motor(Versys) zit een sigarettenaansteker aansluiting. Hier heb ik een oplader gestoken van 30 of 48W en het gaat goed!. Dit is voor mij de voorlopige oplossing. Jammer van de draadloze oplader maar die kan het niet bijhouden. Bij mij werkt het 👍 zie voorbeeld:Screenshot_20240205-165108_AliExpress.jpg

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                • Hans Lamersundefined Hans Lamers

                  @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

                  Vandaag een rondje gemaakt met de quadlock draadloze oplader en 12 volt quadlock omvormer op een s24+.
                  Maar als er ook gebruik wordt gemaakt van tracking, vraagt ​​de app meer dan kan worden geboden.

                  Ik heb ook veel problemen gehad met mijn S23 ultra en de Quadlock draadloze oplader. Ik heb het voorlopig zo opgelost:
                  Op mijn motor(Versys) zit een sigarettenaansteker aansluiting. Hier heb ik een oplader gestoken van 30 of 48W en het gaat goed!. Dit is voor mij de voorlopige oplossing. Jammer van de draadloze oplader maar die kan het niet bijhouden. Bij mij werkt het 👍 zie voorbeeld:Screenshot_20240205-165108_AliExpress.jpg

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                  @Hans-Lamers toevallig vanmiddag ook een klacht naar quadlock gemaild. Bij stationair wordt er maar met 5W geladen blijkt. Dat is niet minimaal de 10W die ik verwacht. Uitermate teleurstellend voor de bedragen die je ervoor kwijt bent.
                  Dus ik vrees can @Con-Hennekens wel een punt heeft.

                  Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                  • Hans Lamersundefined Hans Lamers

                    @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

                    Vandaag een rondje gemaakt met de quadlock draadloze oplader en 12 volt quadlock omvormer op een s24+.
                    Maar als er ook gebruik wordt gemaakt van tracking, vraagt ​​de app meer dan kan worden geboden.

                    Ik heb ook veel problemen gehad met mijn S23 ultra en de Quadlock draadloze oplader. Ik heb het voorlopig zo opgelost:
                    Op mijn motor(Versys) zit een sigarettenaansteker aansluiting. Hier heb ik een oplader gestoken van 30 of 48W en het gaat goed!. Dit is voor mij de voorlopige oplossing. Jammer van de draadloze oplader maar die kan het niet bijhouden. Bij mij werkt het 👍 zie voorbeeld:Screenshot_20240205-165108_AliExpress.jpg

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                    @Hans-Lamers

                    Is Keyvovo Official Store een onderdeel van Alibaba?
                    Ik kan de 48W oplader niet vinden.

                    Heb je een linkje?

                    BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                    • Hans Lamersundefined Hans Lamers

                      @Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

                      Vandaag een rondje gemaakt met de quadlock draadloze oplader en 12 volt quadlock omvormer op een s24+.
                      Maar als er ook gebruik wordt gemaakt van tracking, vraagt ​​de app meer dan kan worden geboden.

                      Ik heb ook veel problemen gehad met mijn S23 ultra en de Quadlock draadloze oplader. Ik heb het voorlopig zo opgelost:
                      Op mijn motor(Versys) zit een sigarettenaansteker aansluiting. Hier heb ik een oplader gestoken van 30 of 48W en het gaat goed!. Dit is voor mij de voorlopige oplossing. Jammer van de draadloze oplader maar die kan het niet bijhouden. Bij mij werkt het 👍 zie voorbeeld:Screenshot_20240205-165108_AliExpress.jpg

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                      @Hans-Lamers how do you get 30 or 48W from a 3 amp 5v charger? W=V*A

                      2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                      • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                        @Hans-Lamers how do you get 30 or 48W from a 3 amp 5v charger? W=V*A

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                        @Doug-Robinson 12 volt cigarette lighter

                        Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                        • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                          @Hans-Lamers

                          Is Keyvovo Official Store een onderdeel van Alibaba?
                          Ik kan de 48W oplader niet vinden.

                          Heb je een linkje?

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                          @Dikke-Wim Inderdaad Aliexpress

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                          • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                            @Hans-Lamers how do you get 30 or 48W from a 3 amp 5v charger? W=V*A

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                            @Doug-Robinson Ik heb geen idee, ik kijk naar de beschrijving (zie de afbeelding). Wat ik heb ervaren is dat deze auto opladers bij mij prima werken👍
                            Of zou het gerekend zijn op de 12V x 4A ??

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                            • Hans Lamersundefined Hans Lamers

                              @Doug-Robinson Ik heb geen idee, ik kijk naar de beschrijving (zie de afbeelding). Wat ik heb ervaren is dat deze auto opladers bij mij prima werken👍
                              Of zou het gerekend zijn op de 12V x 4A ??

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                              @Hans-Lamers misleading. As far as the phone is concerned, the output of the charger/adaptor is 5V at a max of 3 amps = 15 w. I hope my recently purchased Quadlock wireless charger does better than yours. I purchased the 15w version that needs to be direct wired to a 12v source rather than plugging into a USB port. I have also found that the quality of the USB cable can seriously affect charging rates. Keep cables as short as possible.

                              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                              • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                                @Hans-Lamers misleading. As far as the phone is concerned, the output of the charger/adaptor is 5V at a max of 3 amps = 15 w. I hope my recently purchased Quadlock wireless charger does better than yours. I purchased the 15w version that needs to be direct wired to a 12v source rather than plugging into a USB port. I have also found that the quality of the USB cable can seriously affect charging rates. Keep cables as short as possible.

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                                @Doug-Robinson I bought the same setup for that reason too. I was always doubtful using it with my s21fe. The battery usage issues with the app blurred my sight on it a bit.
                                I was hoping that the s24+ with better processor screen etc would perform better
                                But now it seems to be an issue with the quadlock wireless charging head.
                                Maybe we should create a separate forum topic on the subject.

                                Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                                • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                                  @Hans-Lamers misleading. As far as the phone is concerned, the output of the charger/adaptor is 5V at a max of 3 amps = 15 w. I hope my recently purchased Quadlock wireless charger does better than yours. I purchased the 15w version that needs to be direct wired to a 12v source rather than plugging into a USB port. I have also found that the quality of the USB cable can seriously affect charging rates. Keep cables as short as possible.

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                                  @Doug-Robinson
                                  My Quadlock wireless charger also cannot keep up with the drainage of battery while using MRA. I'm using an iPhone 13 Pro Max.

                                  Thanks for the tip to look into the charging cable!

                                  BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                                  • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                                    @Doug-Robinson
                                    My Quadlock wireless charger also cannot keep up with the drainage of battery while using MRA. I'm using an iPhone 13 Pro Max.

                                    Thanks for the tip to look into the charging cable!

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                                    @Dikke-Wim :

                                    I use an iPhone Xr in the BMW cradle, which fits well. I haven't had any battery problems so far and everything was great for the whole day, even on a longer tour.
                                    There were several apps open...

                                    ——-

                                    Ich nutze ein iPhone Xr im BMW Cradel, das passt gut. Ich hatte bis jetzt keine Akku Probleme und auch bei einer längeren Toure für den ganzen Tag alles Top.

                                    Es waren mehre Apps geöffnet, …

                                    VG Hubert
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                                    • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                      @Dikke-Wim :

                                      I use an iPhone Xr in the BMW cradle, which fits well. I haven't had any battery problems so far and everything was great for the whole day, even on a longer tour.
                                      There were several apps open...

                                      ——-

                                      Ich nutze ein iPhone Xr im BMW Cradel, das passt gut. Ich hatte bis jetzt keine Akku Probleme und auch bei einer längeren Toure für den ganzen Tag alles Top.

                                      Es waren mehre Apps geöffnet, …

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                                      @Hubert-Thoring

                                      I think the BMW cradle supplies more power than the Quadlock or SP connect.

                                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                                        @Hubert-Thoring

                                        I think the BMW cradle supplies more power than the Quadlock or SP connect.

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                                        I did some additional testing and I must say that I am dissapointed in the performance of the Quadlock Wireless Charger (with USB connection). It is a very expensive accessory and it is advertised to reach up to 10W with Galaxy devices. (using a good power supply ofcourse).
                                        And yes the power drain of the MRA next app is still on the high side.

                                        In short , the wireless charger does not exceed 6W of power supply in my tests.

                                        Phone is an S24+ .
                                        Case is a Quadlock Mag Case
                                        I have the USB connection version of the Wireless charging head. combined with the Motorcycle - Waterproof 12V To USB Smart Adaptor - Quad Lock® Europe - Official Store (quadlockcase.eu)

                                        I did some testing:

                                        1. Checked on phone: Turned of battery protection and checked all battery fast charging options are on. Used an additional quality USB-A to USB-C cable to test (otherwise I'll need to get a lot of covers of of my motorcycle) all fast charge options are enabled
                                        2. Without Quadlock: tested directly on the a charger : outcomes: On an USB-A output max 2,4A => 7 W charging second USB-A output with a QC3.0 => 12,5 W.
                                          3, Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable wired directly on the 12V Quadlock convertor => 12 W
                                        3. Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable from the 12V quadlock convertor to the wireless head = 6W
                                        4. Quadlock wireless charging head connected to wall charger (as in bullet 2): 1. on QC3.0 port => 6W max via charging head second on normal port max 2,4A resulting in 3,4W max via charging head

                                        response of Quadlock on results:
                                        *Our wireless charging head has advertising on our product page to charge at a maximum of 10W, as yours is charging at 5W it still sitting with the expected performance.

                                        Just to note that you will always have a faster charging speed using a cable as this is not surprising because we can't expect the wireless charge to perform the same.*

                                        The latter is obvious. But losing 6W over the wireless charging head is dissapointing to say the least.
                                        (i found that , with a 100 km roundtour, first edit in Routeplanner online) using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.
                                        Also must state that I am always using Flitsmeister AND youtube music in background as well;

                                        Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                                          While it might be true or not that Quadlock does not charge as advertised, it still does charge my phone when navigating using another app like Waze and Google Maps, and MRA is draining the battery.

                                          Also, the charger in my car (USB outlet in dashboard / not quadlock) does charge the battery when navigating with other apps, while the battery drains when using MRA.

                                          (Android)

                                          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                                          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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