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    Reinhard Neumann
    wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 10:29 last edited by
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    Hi.
    A part of my route includes a river ferry. The track in OSM and the route for TomTom includes the ferry fine. HERE map, which I use preferred for my Garmin XT, however, does not allow me to include the ferry. It tries to get on a little detour to use a bridge.
    I was not able to figure out, why this is. Ferries are allowed in MRA settings.
    Thanks!

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      Jörgen
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      wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 10:59 last edited by
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      The HERE map has problems with ferries (I think it is addressed), just set a way point at the start and end of the ferry and ignore the detour (until HERE fix this).

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        10 Aug 2023, 10:59

        The HERE map has problems with ferries (I think it is addressed), just set a way point at the start and end of the ferry and ignore the detour (until HERE fix this).

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        Reinhard Neumann
        wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 11:58 last edited by
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        @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
        Cheers
        Reinhard

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          10 Aug 2023, 11:58

          @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
          Cheers
          Reinhard

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          Jaka 2
          wrote on 24 Jan 2025, 10:11 last edited by
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          @Reinhard-Neumann said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

          @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
          Cheers
          Reinhard

          Thanks, Jörgen!

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            24 Jan 2025, 10:11

            @Reinhard-Neumann said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

            @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
            Cheers
            Reinhard

            Thanks, Jörgen!

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            Nick Carthew
            RouteXperts Instructor
            wrote on 24 Jan 2025, 10:25 last edited by
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            @Jaka-2 said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

            @Reinhard-Neumann said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

            @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
            Cheers
            Reinhard

            Thanks, Jörgen!

            You are replying to a thread from 2023. There is another solution now. In the Toolkit of the TomTom and HERE planning maps you can now choose Route optimisation, as long as your transport mode is not motorcycle, now select the shortest route and the system should use the ferry.

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              24 Jan 2025, 10:25

              @Jaka-2 said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

              @Reinhard-Neumann said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

              @Jörgen Hi Jörgen. Thanks for the hint. I'll use this workaround and hope there will be a fix soon.
              Cheers
              Reinhard

              Thanks, Jörgen!

              You are replying to a thread from 2023. There is another solution now. In the Toolkit of the TomTom and HERE planning maps you can now choose Route optimisation, as long as your transport mode is not motorcycle, now select the shortest route and the system should use the ferry.

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              Adrian Avram
              wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 08:50 last edited by
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              @Nick-Carthew said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

              as long as your transport mode is not motorcycle

              Sorry Nick, but I don't consider this as a fix. We are mainly using this software for motorcycle touring, not for car touring.

              Best regards,
              Adrian

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              • undefined Adrian Avram
                25 Jan 2025, 08:50

                @Nick-Carthew said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

                as long as your transport mode is not motorcycle

                Sorry Nick, but I don't consider this as a fix. We are mainly using this software for motorcycle touring, not for car touring.

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                Nick Carthew
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                wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 08:54 last edited by
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                @Adrian-Avram Don’t shoot the messenger, it’s the map suppliers that dictate the parameters. 😇

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                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
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                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  25 Jan 2025, 08:54

                  @Adrian-Avram Don’t shoot the messenger, it’s the map suppliers that dictate the parameters. 😇

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                  Adrian Avram
                  wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 08:57 last edited by
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                  @Nick-Carthew I know that "here" has a lot of issues to fix ! I highly appreciate all your advice and help on this forum! 😄

                  Best regards,
                  Adrian

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                  MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
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                    25 Jan 2025, 08:57

                    @Nick-Carthew I know that "here" has a lot of issues to fix ! I highly appreciate all your advice and help on this forum! 😄

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                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    RouteXperts
                    wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 10:13 last edited by
                    #9

                    @Adrian-Avram while Diving a bike you can still use the car profile whitout any issue. I do it all the time

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                      25 Jan 2025, 10:13

                      @Adrian-Avram while Diving a bike you can still use the car profile whitout any issue. I do it all the time

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                      wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 10:22 last edited by
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                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom I fully agree. Here in the UK I cannot think of any situation where a motorcycle is treated differently to a car. Corjan has said that the motorcycle transport mode could take a more twisty route compared to car mode, but to be honest, I would include any twisty option in my route when I am planning it anyway.

                      Always willing to help if I can.
                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        25 Jan 2025, 10:22

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom I fully agree. Here in the UK I cannot think of any situation where a motorcycle is treated differently to a car. Corjan has said that the motorcycle transport mode could take a more twisty route compared to car mode, but to be honest, I would include any twisty option in my route when I am planning it anyway.

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                        wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 15:22 last edited by
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                        @Nick-Carthew not more twisty 😉
                        Specifically a literal sharp corner.
                        Turn radius of motorcycle is minimal compared to car allowing the route to take sharper corners is very rare situations 🙂

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                          25 Jan 2025, 15:22

                          @Nick-Carthew not more twisty 😉
                          Specifically a literal sharp corner.
                          Turn radius of motorcycle is minimal compared to car allowing the route to take sharper corners is very rare situations 🙂

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                          Nick Carthew
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                          wrote on 25 Jan 2025, 16:55 last edited by
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                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

                          @Nick-Carthew not more twisty 😉
                          Specifically a literal sharp corner.
                          Turn radius of motorcycle is minimal compared to car allowing the route to take sharper corners is very rare situations 🙂

                          Thanks for the clarification mate 👍🏼

                          Always willing to help if I can.
                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                            white.mouse
                            wrote on 26 Jan 2025, 09:01 last edited by white.mouse
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                            @Nick-Carthew said in Problem with route containing riverferry:

                            You are replying to a thread from 2023. There is another solution now. In the Toolkit of the TomTom and HERE planning maps you can now choose Route optimisation, as long as your transport mode is not motorcycle, now select the shortest route and the system should use the ferry.

                            Is er een manier om dit als standaard in te stellen? En zo ja, hoe? Bij nieuwe routes staat het bij mij standaard op snelste!
                            Is there any way to set this as default? And if so, how?
                            On new routes, my default is fastest!

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