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  • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

    I have now tried several times to expand a TomTom and also a HERE route. Nothing happens. I have a gold lifetime subscription. I have zoomed in on each waypoint to check they are right on the road, which they are.
    Still the expanding does not work. I've tried it in multiple browsers (Safari, Chrome, MyRoute app), with multiple routes. Even with a new route between carefully placed start and end points, it doesn't work.

    This is the route but it does not work on any of my routes https://www.myrouteapp.com/de/social/route/7976778?mode=share

    Kind regards, Adam

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    @Adam-Sobanski
    The expand function works perfectly for me.
    Are you adding the number of extra route points that you require in the box?

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    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

      @Adam-Sobanski
      The expand function works perfectly for me.
      Are you adding the number of extra route points that you require in the box?

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      #3

      @Nick-Carthew I have tried adding different numbers between 10 and 20 - nothing worked

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      • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

        @Nick-Carthew I have tried adding different numbers between 10 and 20 - nothing worked

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        @Adam-Sobanski I expanded it to 14 using the HERE planning map. But it wouldn’t expand using the TomTom planning map.

        IMG_2393.jpeg

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        • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

          @Nick-Carthew I have tried adding different numbers between 10 and 20 - nothing worked

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          @Adam-Sobanski Interestingly, when using the OSM planning map, the expanded route points are all added to before the original RP6.

          IMG_2395.jpeg

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            @Adam-Sobanski Interestingly, when using the OSM planning map, the expanded route points are all added to before the original RP6.

            IMG_2395.jpeg

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            #6

            @Nick-Carthew
            hi Nick, thanks for testing this. Now HERE Map works with expanding. Earlier this morning it did not.
            However, it is a MRA recommendation to create curvy scenic routs by

            • Creating them in TomTom

            • Expanding them with additional waypoints to ensure it does not get changed by HERE

            • Switch to HERE in order to allow navigation

            That is a bit frustrating

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            • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

              @Nick-Carthew
              hi Nick, thanks for testing this. Now HERE Map works with expanding. Earlier this morning it did not.
              However, it is a MRA recommendation to create curvy scenic routs by

              • Creating them in TomTom

              • Expanding them with additional waypoints to ensure it does not get changed by HERE

              • Switch to HERE in order to allow navigation

              That is a bit frustrating

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              @Adam-Sobanski

              I have just created a new route in the TomTom map.
              Start and end point selected
              Winding route option - Average
              Expand waypoints to 60
              Without any problems.

              unfortunately it sometimes happens that extending the waypoints does not work, no matter which map you use

              c34867d0-5542-4aef-af38-15f6feb511cd-image.png

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              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                @Adam-Sobanski

                I have just created a new route in the TomTom map.
                Start and end point selected
                Winding route option - Average
                Expand waypoints to 60
                Without any problems.

                unfortunately it sometimes happens that extending the waypoints does not work, no matter which map you use

                c34867d0-5542-4aef-af38-15f6feb511cd-image.png

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                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                Hi Hans,
                Thanks for your response. If it didn’t work only occasionally, I could live with it, yet since yesterday I have tried 4 maps always created from scratch, letting MRA define the route between start and end point. Thus the waypoint were set by MRA and in none of the maps I could expand. This is difficult to accept as it is a gold functionality which comes at a premium price.
                Any workaround to that bug?

                iPhone 14 pro max
                BMW R1250GS

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                • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                  Hi Hans,
                  Thanks for your response. If it didn’t work only occasionally, I could live with it, yet since yesterday I have tried 4 maps always created from scratch, letting MRA define the route between start and end point. Thus the waypoint were set by MRA and in none of the maps I could expand. This is difficult to accept as it is a gold functionality which comes at a premium price.
                  Any workaround to that bug?

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                  #9

                  @Adam-Sobanski I am not using this function very often, but it worked for me every time. Just checked with your route as well.

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                  • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                    Hi Hans,
                    Thanks for your response. If it didn’t work only occasionally, I could live with it, yet since yesterday I have tried 4 maps always created from scratch, letting MRA define the route between start and end point. Thus the waypoint were set by MRA and in none of the maps I could expand. This is difficult to accept as it is a gold functionality which comes at a premium price.
                    Any workaround to that bug?

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                    Instructor RouteXperts
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @Adam-Sobanski
                    Please delete your cookies and internet history and try again

                    Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                      @Adam-Sobanski
                      Please delete your cookies and internet history and try again

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                      #11

                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                      OK. Will do so this evening. Thanks for the prompt help.
                      Will report back whether it worked

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                      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                        @Adam-Sobanski
                        Please delete your cookies and internet history and try again

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                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                        I possibly found the issue: I had 3 routes with the same name, deleted 2 of them and now it works.
                        Not sure if that was the reason, if so, MRA developers may think about either preventing users using the same route name twice or at least warn them that it may cause troubles

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                        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                          @Adam-Sobanski
                          Please delete your cookies and internet history and try again

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                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                          Hi Hans,

                          Just tried in now one more time, for Tom Tom it does not work (again).

                          • Removed duplicate routes with same name
                          • Deleted history and cookies

                          With HERE it works, with TomTom it doesn’t. Btw. It also does not work with the MRA Browser that is integrated in the App, neither in Chrome nor in Safari on Mac nor iOS (iPad)

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                          • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                            Hi Hans,

                            Just tried in now one more time, for Tom Tom it does not work (again).

                            • Removed duplicate routes with same name
                            • Deleted history and cookies

                            With HERE it works, with TomTom it doesn’t. Btw. It also does not work with the MRA Browser that is integrated in the App, neither in Chrome nor in Safari on Mac nor iOS (iPad)

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                            @Adam-Sobanski

                            It works for me on an iPad Pro.
                            Used the Tom Tom Map to plan a windy/Curvey Route then expanded on the Tom Tom Route then switched it to the Here map.

                            Snapshot 05-08-2023 21:11.jpeg

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                            • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                              @Adam-Sobanski

                              It works for me on an iPad Pro.
                              Used the Tom Tom Map to plan a windy/Curvey Route then expanded on the Tom Tom Route then switched it to the Here map.

                              Snapshot 05-08-2023 21:11.jpeg

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                              @Lynchy67
                              Hi all,

                              Thanks for showing me that it work for you guys, yet, it doesn’t at my end.
                              Just created one more public route https://www.myrouteapp.com/de/social/route/7980799?mode=share
                              Same issue here: no expanding in TomTom

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                              BMW R1250GS

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                              • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                                @Lynchy67
                                Hi all,

                                Thanks for showing me that it work for you guys, yet, it doesn’t at my end.
                                Just created one more public route https://www.myrouteapp.com/de/social/route/7980799?mode=share
                                Same issue here: no expanding in TomTom

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @Adam-Sobanski

                                Turn off the options Altitude difference and winding route.

                                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                                  @Lynchy67
                                  Hi all,

                                  Thanks for showing me that it work for you guys, yet, it doesn’t at my end.
                                  Just created one more public route https://www.myrouteapp.com/de/social/route/7980799?mode=share
                                  Same issue here: no expanding in TomTom

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                                  Instructor RouteXperts
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @Adam-Sobanski
                                  You are limiting the software too much to be able to expand in my opinion.
                                  If you only check Avoid the highways, then expand and then set winding and height.

                                  Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                                    @Adam-Sobanski
                                    You are limiting the software too much to be able to expand in my opinion.
                                    If you only check Avoid the highways, then expand and then set winding and height.

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                                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                    Hi Hans,
                                    I could (hopefully permanently) solve the issue: by

                                    • Deleting web-data from ALL my browsers on all my hardware (Mac, iPad, iPhone)
                                    • Deleting and re-installing the MRA Apps from my iPhone & iPad --> these seem to use a browser for the route planning / editing but I did not find a way to delete the cache / history here
                                    • I also deleted (just to be sure) all my routes - weren't that many
                                      Now it seems to work. many thanks for your patient and prompt help and tipps - very appreciated!

                                    Regarding your last recommendation:
                                    The settings that you suggest to turn off, are proposed by one of the MRA tutorials (I think it was a tutorial or may be a forum recommendation by one of the experts here) to create nice and curvy motorbike routes:
                                    Namely to: plan the route in TomTom by selecting hight attitude values, choosing a winding route, avoiding highways etc., then to ad many waypoints to 'nail' the route for its transfer to HERE to make it navigable - so when this does not work, the whole MRA approach would be useless for me, as this is exactly what I want: curvy, scenic routes for my motorbike rides.
                                    Currently, Calimoto (competition to MRA) has IMO the best algorithm for quick planning of really nice tours - but it has other limitations, that's why I choose MRA.

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                                    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                                      @Adam-Sobanski
                                      You are limiting the software too much to be able to expand in my opinion.
                                      If you only check Avoid the highways, then expand and then set winding and height.

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                                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                      Hi Hans, I was just wondering where I got the idea to do all the settings for my problem route. It is indeed in the FAQs
                                      https://support.myrouteapp.com/support/solutions/articles/12000041930-how-do-i-create-a-route-with-high-windingness-

                                      Not sure if this was the root-cause (route-cause ha ha ha) but may be, but then the proposed solution should be either tested or removed

                                      Regards, Adam

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                                      BMW R1250GS

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                                      • Adam Sobanskiundefined Adam Sobanski

                                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                        Hi Hans, I was just wondering where I got the idea to do all the settings for my problem route. It is indeed in the FAQs
                                        https://support.myrouteapp.com/support/solutions/articles/12000041930-how-do-i-create-a-route-with-high-windingness-

                                        Not sure if this was the root-cause (route-cause ha ha ha) but may be, but then the proposed solution should be either tested or removed

                                        Regards, Adam

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                                        @Adam-Sobanski I am having the exact same issue, unable to expand using the tomtom map. the Here map works fine. The tomtom map has always expanded for me when I created routes in the past but, now has stopped.

                                        Did you ever find a solution?
                                        Thanks

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