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    Con Hennekens
    Alpha tester
    wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 19:54 last edited by Con Hennekens
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    I have been testing the Zello App, which is an almost perfect (and free for personal use!) app that makes Push-to-Talk functionality between phones, and groups of users possible. There is a drawback however: despite of a function that enables the use in the background, it does not seem able to receive keys (from a BlueTooth keyboard like BarButtons) when it does not run on foreground. When in focus it works perfectly, but of course we would like MRA Mobile to be in focus!

    I am not sure if it is possible at all, but it would be really great if Zello (and probably a lot more apps) could be made compatible with MRA by passing specific keystrokes on to a third-party program running in the background.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      17 Mar 2023, 19:54

      I have been testing the Zello App, which is an almost perfect (and free for personal use!) app that makes Push-to-Talk functionality between phones, and groups of users possible. There is a drawback however: despite of a function that enables the use in the background, it does not seem able to receive keys (from a BlueTooth keyboard like BarButtons) when it does not run on foreground. When in focus it works perfectly, but of course we would like MRA Mobile to be in focus!

      I am not sure if it is possible at all, but it would be really great if Zello (and probably a lot more apps) could be made compatible with MRA by passing specific keystrokes on to a third-party program running in the background.

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      Corjan Meijerink
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      wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 20:40 last edited by
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      @Con-Hennekens sounds like something for way down the road 🙂 Cool idea!

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        17 Mar 2023, 19:54

        I have been testing the Zello App, which is an almost perfect (and free for personal use!) app that makes Push-to-Talk functionality between phones, and groups of users possible. There is a drawback however: despite of a function that enables the use in the background, it does not seem able to receive keys (from a BlueTooth keyboard like BarButtons) when it does not run on foreground. When in focus it works perfectly, but of course we would like MRA Mobile to be in focus!

        I am not sure if it is possible at all, but it would be really great if Zello (and probably a lot more apps) could be made compatible with MRA by passing specific keystrokes on to a third-party program running in the background.

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        Jörgen
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        wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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        @Con-Hennekens Hello, I am not sure if I have understood your problem correctly. We use BT-Talk from Midland in the group. A small button is needed and the smartphone stays in the pocket. May this helps?

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          17 Mar 2023, 21:00

          @Con-Hennekens Hello, I am not sure if I have understood your problem correctly. We use BT-Talk from Midland in the group. A small button is needed and the smartphone stays in the pocket. May this helps?

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          wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 21:38 last edited by
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          @Jörgen, Zello probably works more or less the same. The small button can be a BarButtons unit as well. Check this thread:
          https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/3391/myroute-app-barbuttons-control-our-app-using-a-bluetooth-keyboard?_=1679088849299

          The problem is that the button does not work if the App loses focus (another app is on top).

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            17 Mar 2023, 19:54

            I have been testing the Zello App, which is an almost perfect (and free for personal use!) app that makes Push-to-Talk functionality between phones, and groups of users possible. There is a drawback however: despite of a function that enables the use in the background, it does not seem able to receive keys (from a BlueTooth keyboard like BarButtons) when it does not run on foreground. When in focus it works perfectly, but of course we would like MRA Mobile to be in focus!

            I am not sure if it is possible at all, but it would be really great if Zello (and probably a lot more apps) could be made compatible with MRA by passing specific keystrokes on to a third-party program running in the background.

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            Herko ter Horst
            wrote on 18 Mar 2023, 08:42 last edited by
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            @Con-Hennekens Somehow I doubt this is possible. You don't want non-foreground apps to be able to read the data you enter into the foreground app, right? What if you have an app running in the background and then enter your password in your banking app? I would expect this is considered a security risk and therefore not allowed by the operating system.

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              18 Mar 2023, 08:42

              @Con-Hennekens Somehow I doubt this is possible. You don't want non-foreground apps to be able to read the data you enter into the foreground app, right? What if you have an app running in the background and then enter your password in your banking app? I would expect this is considered a security risk and therefore not allowed by the operating system.

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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 18 Mar 2023, 20:54 last edited by
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              @Herko-ter-Horst, No of course not! Although it seems that apps that do exactly that are available.

              What I am proposing is the other way around: passing certain key presses of the foreground app (being MRA Mobile) to a secondary app. So if F3 is pushed (Barbuttons key 3 in keymap 3), it get's passed to Zello. In Zello you can define your own key that you want to use as PTT key.

              By the way: it is already possible to use Zello as PTT application while navigating. You only have to use an overlay button on your screen. Tap once and the channel opens, tap again and the channel closes.

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              You can drag that button to anywhere on screen. You can even place multiple buttons to different people or groups. You can even define multiple hardware keys to multiple people or groups.

              The volume slider is only visible because I miss-pressed the screenshot buttons 😉

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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