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  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

    @Craig-4 The new feature can be found under Navigation Preferences and is turned on by default. 7B346813-A366-4AF5-BCFC-BC105A989B31.png

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    @Nick-Carthew for some reason I don’t have this update, looked to see if the update was pending but nothing. Not sure where you are based but maybe a delay for the UK. If the update works that will be great to see! 👍🏻

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    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

      @Craig-4 The new feature can be found under Navigation Preferences and is turned on by default. 7B346813-A366-4AF5-BCFC-BC105A989B31.png

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      @Nick-Carthew sorted the update, deleted the app and downloaded it again.

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      • MyRoute-app communityundefined MyRoute-app community

        Hi Craig,

        We're aware of this. In order for our Navigation users to get a more enjoyable experience from the Navigation App we've rolled out an update on iOS that allows for automatically skipping waypoints in a fashion that's consistent with what you describe.

        kind regards,

        Timo

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        @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA thank you, testing it out as we speak so hopefully resolves the issue. 👍🏻

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        • Craig 4undefined Craig 4

          @Nick-Carthew for some reason I don’t have this update, looked to see if the update was pending but nothing. Not sure where you are based but maybe a delay for the UK. If the update works that will be great to see! 👍🏻

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          @Craig-4 said in Major flaw with re-routing in MyRoute Nav!:

          @Nick-Carthew for some reason I don’t have this update, looked to see if the update was pending but nothing. Not sure where you are based but maybe a delay for the UK. If the update works that will be great to see! 👍🏻

          I'm in deepest darkest Devon @Craig-4. When I saw the post on the MRA Facebook page relating to this update I immediately went to update my phone but Apple has moved where the updates used to be 😠
          I know you've already done it, but for future (unless they change it again!) Open the App Store, go to 'Today' and click on your profile pic, then click purchases. You'll find the updates there.

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          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
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          • MyRoute-app communityundefined MyRoute-app community

            Hi Craig,

            We're aware of this. In order for our Navigation users to get a more enjoyable experience from the Navigation App we've rolled out an update on iOS that allows for automatically skipping waypoints in a fashion that's consistent with what you describe.

            kind regards,

            Timo

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            @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA
            Hi Timo, hope you are well. As mentioned in a previous reply I tried the new feature for skipping waypoints but unfortunately it doesn’t appear to work. The attached picture shows a planned route I used for the test, instead of following the route to waypoint 9 I drove down the road I’ve highlighted in red which takes you to the M1 motorway back onto the planned route. After taking the road in red a message popped up on the Nav saying it will skip the waypoint as I appear to be ignoring it, at this point I thought it would then re-route to the M1 but it didn’t. In fact for the next 10 miles the same message came up several times but the Nav was just trying to turn me around and take me back to the missed waypoints. I continued to the finish point of the route and it was still trying to turn me around. I really want this to work, however I will be leading a group of 20 bikers soon on a 3 day ride so can’t afford to have any mistakes so I will be going back to using MRA with a dedicated satnav.

            I look forward to hearing your feedback, many thanks, Craig.
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            • Craig 4undefined Craig 4

              @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA
              Hi Timo, hope you are well. As mentioned in a previous reply I tried the new feature for skipping waypoints but unfortunately it doesn’t appear to work. The attached picture shows a planned route I used for the test, instead of following the route to waypoint 9 I drove down the road I’ve highlighted in red which takes you to the M1 motorway back onto the planned route. After taking the road in red a message popped up on the Nav saying it will skip the waypoint as I appear to be ignoring it, at this point I thought it would then re-route to the M1 but it didn’t. In fact for the next 10 miles the same message came up several times but the Nav was just trying to turn me around and take me back to the missed waypoints. I continued to the finish point of the route and it was still trying to turn me around. I really want this to work, however I will be leading a group of 20 bikers soon on a 3 day ride so can’t afford to have any mistakes so I will be going back to using MRA with a dedicated satnav.

              I look forward to hearing your feedback, many thanks, Craig.
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              @Craig-4 Can You share your test route on here please.

              Always willing to help if I can.
              Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
              MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
              Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
              Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
              TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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              • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                @Craig-4 Can You share your test route on here please.

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                @Nick-Carthew lol, if I knew how I would. Can you point me in the right direct. Cheers.

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                • Craig 4undefined Craig 4

                  @Nick-Carthew lol, if I knew how I would. Can you point me in the right direct. Cheers.

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                  @Craig-4 First off, make sure that the route is set to public. You do this under ‘route properties’ on the right of your route in your library. You can then either choose share and copy the link or open the route and copy the URL then paste it into a a post on here. 👍🏼

                  Always willing to help if I can.
                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                    @Craig-4 First off, make sure that the route is set to public. You do this under ‘route properties’ on the right of your route in your library. You can then either choose share and copy the link or open the route and copy the URL then paste it into a a post on here. 👍🏼

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                    @Nick-Carthew everday’s a school day!

                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/2854350?mode=share

                    Hopefully if Grand Master has taught me well this will work!

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                    • Craig 4undefined Craig 4

                      @Nick-Carthew everday’s a school day!

                      https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/2854350?mode=share

                      Hopefully if Grand Master has taught me well this will work!

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                      @Craig-4 Ha Ha 😉 You learn fast grasshopper.
                      Thanks for sharing it. I just wanted to check that there wasn’t any glaringly obvious clangers, and there isn’t. I wonder if it might be to do with skipping 4 RPs? I will do a similar test myself tomorrow to see if I can repeat your findings and I’ll let you know. Thanks again 👍🏼
                      This might need looking at @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA

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                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                        @Craig-4 Ha Ha 😉 You learn fast grasshopper.
                        Thanks for sharing it. I just wanted to check that there wasn’t any glaringly obvious clangers, and there isn’t. I wonder if it might be to do with skipping 4 RPs? I will do a similar test myself tomorrow to see if I can repeat your findings and I’ll let you know. Thanks again 👍🏼
                        This might need looking at @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA

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                        @Craig-4 I tried two small test routes today and both were successful. I deliberately missed 2 and then 3 route points on the first route and 4 on my second test route. It tried redirecting me until i was back on track but no U-turns.

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                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                          @Craig-4 I tried two small test routes today and both were successful. I deliberately missed 2 and then 3 route points on the first route and 4 on my second test route. It tried redirecting me until i was back on track but no U-turns.

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                          @Nick-Carthew very strange, don’t know why mine doesn’t want to play ball! I tried again today, now this time it did skip waypoint 7 a few hundred yards down the road. My concern is that it was telling me to turn right towards 7 which I might have done if I didn’t know the area. My TomTom would just ignore WP 7 and turn me left straight away to rejoin the route. When I’m leading 20 bikers the last thing I need is turning down some narrow road only to then tell them all they have to do a U turn!
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                          • Craig 4undefined Craig 4

                            @Nick-Carthew very strange, don’t know why mine doesn’t want to play ball! I tried again today, now this time it did skip waypoint 7 a few hundred yards down the road. My concern is that it was telling me to turn right towards 7 which I might have done if I didn’t know the area. My TomTom would just ignore WP 7 and turn me left straight away to rejoin the route. When I’m leading 20 bikers the last thing I need is turning down some narrow road only to then tell them all they have to do a U turn!
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                            @Craig-4 I have absolutely no idea how it works and as far as I’m concerned, it’s black magic. Perhaps 7 was too close to where you rejoined your route for the algorithms to kick in??
                            I fully appreciate what you’re saying regarding leading a group out though, highly embarrassing. This new feature is in beta mode at the moment and I’m sure that the boffins in the MRA lab will be made aware of any issues that might crop up and be onto them.
                            I use MRA Nav alongside my TT because I like the ability to attach notes to coloured route points and read them out. Very handy for little snippets of information about the castle you’re visiting or to alert you of a tricky section of road.
                            I have every faith that if there are issues, they’ll be sorted soon.
                            All the best Nick

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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