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GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes

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  • Arjan de Vries
    Arjan de Vries
    Arjan de Vries
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    #4

    If I am correct there is one disadvantage of the 1.2
    You have to be ON the route to start it.
    1.1 navigates you to the starting point.
    Correct?

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    • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

      If I am correct there is one disadvantage of the 1.2
      You have to be ON the route to start it.
      1.1 navigates you to the starting point.
      Correct?

      HABVEN aka MrMRA
      HABVEN aka MrMRA
      HABVEN aka MrMRA
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      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      @Arjan-de-Vries
      Hello Arjan,
      Only start the route after you have a complete fix (= at least 3 green lines), so only when the Zumo has found enough satellites and is ready for navigation. If you start the route earlier, you will be sent directly to the 2nd route point via a different route. You will then miss the first part of the route. For example, if you are in a garage, first drive outside and wait until you have a fix and then start the route.

      BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

        @Arjan-de-Vries
        Hello Arjan,
        Only start the route after you have a complete fix (= at least 3 green lines), so only when the Zumo has found enough satellites and is ready for navigation. If you start the route earlier, you will be sent directly to the 2nd route point via a different route. You will then miss the first part of the route. For example, if you are in a garage, first drive outside and wait until you have a fix and then start the route.

        Arjan de Vries
        Arjan de Vries
        Arjan de Vries
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

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        • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

          HABVEN aka MrMRA
          HABVEN aka MrMRA
          HABVEN aka MrMRA
          Valued contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          @Arjan-de-Vries

          Then you go to the starting point👍

          BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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          • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

            Drabslab
            Drabslab
            Drabslab
            wrote on last edited by
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            @Arjan-de-Vries i have two favorites, both 100 m from my house, one is called "home start" ,the other one home end.

            For each jotel along the route, my endpoint is the exact address of the hotel or the most convenient parking spot. The next days route has a beginning up to 1km from the hotel

            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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            • Drabslab Drabslab

              @Arjan-de-Vries i have two favorites, both 100 m from my house, one is called "home start" ,the other one home end.

              For each jotel along the route, my endpoint is the exact address of the hotel or the most convenient parking spot. The next days route has a beginning up to 1km from the hotel

              Steve Jarrell
              Steve Jarrell
              Steve Jarrell
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              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              @Drabslab I do exactly the same way. As many others have done, I had to learn the hard way why it's a bad idea to put your starting point exactly where you are!

              Steve

              Steve Jarrell
              Western North Carolina US

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              • Jay Potter 0
                Jay Potter 0
                Jay Potter 0
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                This topic is interesting to me as a Novice creating GPX files using a number of free apps & now MyRouteApp. How can I tell if the resulting GPX file is in format 1.1 or 1.2?

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                • Jay Potter 0 Jay Potter 0

                  This topic is interesting to me as a Novice creating GPX files using a number of free apps & now MyRouteApp. How can I tell if the resulting GPX file is in format 1.1 or 1.2?

                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  @Jay-Potter-0

                  Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                  Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                  BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                    @Jay-Potter-0

                    Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                    Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                    Steve Jarrell
                    Steve Jarrell
                    Steve Jarrell
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                    @Jay-Potter-0

                    Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                    Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                    Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                    Best regards,

                    Steve

                    Steve Jarrell
                    Western North Carolina US

                    Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
                    2025 BMW R1300GS
                    2025 Can-Am Spyder
                    DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
                    Garmin XT3

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                    • Steve Jarrell Steve Jarrell

                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                      @Jay-Potter-0

                      Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                      Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                      Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                      Best regards,

                      Steve

                      Steve Lynch
                      Steve Lynch
                      Steve Lynch
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                      wrote on last edited by Steve Lynch
                      #13

                      @Steve-Jarrell

                      I won’t mention the 590 as I have no experience with that device.

                      On the XT, both GPX 1.1 and GPX1.2 can contain Via Points and Shaping Points.

                      The difference is that GPX 1.1 will show the Via Points and the Shaping Points visibly on the XT Map and the Via Points will announce themselves visibly on the XT Screen as you approach them.
                      Shaping Points never announce themselves.

                      GPX 1.2 will only visibly show Via Points on the XT Map and they will announce themselves visibly on the XT Screen as you approach them.
                      With GPX 1.2 Shaping points are hidden on the XT Map but they are still used to Shape the Route.

                      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                      • Steve Jarrell Steve Jarrell

                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                        @Jay-Potter-0

                        Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                        Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                        Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                        Best regards,

                        Steve

                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @Steve-Jarrell

                        Steve
                        gpx 1.1 Route with shaping points (balls) and viapoints (Flags)
                        You can leave the recalculation on on the Zumo XT, if you deviate from the route you will be brought back to the route (to the nearest ball or flag)
                        gpx1.1_Zumo.jpg

                        gpx 1.2 Route-Track via viapoints (Flags)
                        You must turn off the recalculation on the Zumo XT, if you deviate from the route you will have to drive back to the route on sight. If you leave recalculation on you will be directed to the next flag according to the settings on the Zumo.
                        gpx12_nav6.jpg

                        BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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