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Is it not illegal to use any form of scamera alert system that details the location of one in France? That is, not just stand alone detection/blocking devices.
I recall some fuss several years ago around this after it became apparent that use of UK market devices would be illegal there, but it transpired that no action would be taken if the facility was found to be switched off. I believe the only allowable alerts are those that warn of being in a ‘camera zone’, i.e. a wider area in which there ‘might’ be scamera(s)in use. TomTom adopted this approach soon after, it seems.
️wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 11:21 last edited by@PAD-0 yes, it is totally illegal in France.
However, just being back from two weeks in France, it appears as if the speed limits have been spread over the roads with a random number generator. Only logic remaining is that in cities or villages; 50km/h is the standard, if not indicated differently as being 30km/h, and I also saw 70 km/h in the middle of a city, and the best one: a white painted 50 km/h on the road with a sign 70km/h right next to it.
And what about a road in the middle of nowhere with a roadsign for 90 km/h in one direction and 70 km/h in the other direction.
This seems specially designed to create confusion and generate income for the state in combination with a massive amount of speed cameras (even in the middle of forests or mountain roads).
Having some protective equipment bcomes self-defence.
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@PAD-0 yes, it is totally illegal in France.
However, just being back from two weeks in France, it appears as if the speed limits have been spread over the roads with a random number generator. Only logic remaining is that in cities or villages; 50km/h is the standard, if not indicated differently as being 30km/h, and I also saw 70 km/h in the middle of a city, and the best one: a white painted 50 km/h on the road with a sign 70km/h right next to it.
And what about a road in the middle of nowhere with a roadsign for 90 km/h in one direction and 70 km/h in the other direction.
This seems specially designed to create confusion and generate income for the state in combination with a massive amount of speed cameras (even in the middle of forests or mountain roads).
Having some protective equipment bcomes self-defence.
@Drabslab There aren’t many travellers that haven’t encountered speed cameras in France. I believe that since Brexit it will be more difficult to pursue those from the UK.
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@Drabslab There aren’t many travellers that haven’t encountered speed cameras in France. I believe that since Brexit it will be more difficult to pursue those from the UK.
wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 11:58 last edited by Drabslab@Nick-Carthew Don't mention Brexit. It's part of my daily job and a total nightmare. I don't want this to end in a political row, but I have never met any person, british or not, that could give me one real world benefit for anyone.
and Yes, I am dreaming to go the the UK later in november this year for another hobby (Telford IPMS scale modelling event). Done that for many years with a whole group (16 or something) as a kind of modelling pilgrimage; This year we would be 8 maximum. The rest does not want to go anymore -fear of customs-anger for brexit (if they don't want us anymore ...)-uncertainly about legal and insurance situation in case of an accident ...
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@Nick-Carthew Don't mention Brexit. It's part of my daily job and a total nightmare. I don't want this to end in a political row, but I have never met any person, british or not, that could give me one real world benefit for anyone.
and Yes, I am dreaming to go the the UK later in november this year for another hobby (Telford IPMS scale modelling event). Done that for many years with a whole group (16 or something) as a kind of modelling pilgrimage; This year we would be 8 maximum. The rest does not want to go anymore -fear of customs-anger for brexit (if they don't want us anymore ...)-uncertainly about legal and insurance situation in case of an accident ...
wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 12:04 last edited by@Drabslab By the way: there could be camera's in front of the chunnel recognising licence plates, and you would have to pay before leaving France.
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@Nick-Carthew Don't mention Brexit. It's part of my daily job and a total nightmare. I don't want this to end in a political row, but I have never met any person, british or not, that could give me one real world benefit for anyone.
and Yes, I am dreaming to go the the UK later in november this year for another hobby (Telford IPMS scale modelling event). Done that for many years with a whole group (16 or something) as a kind of modelling pilgrimage; This year we would be 8 maximum. The rest does not want to go anymore -fear of customs-anger for brexit (if they don't want us anymore ...)-uncertainly about legal and insurance situation in case of an accident ...
@Drabslab said in Find POI...:
@Nick-Carthew Don't mention Brexit. It's part of my daily job and a total nightmare. I don't want this to end in a political row, but I have never met any person, british or not, that could give me one real world benefit for anyone.
and Yes, I am dreaming to go the the UK later in november this year for another hobby (Telford IPMS scale modelling event). Done that for many years with a whole group (16 or something) as a kind of modelling pilgrimage; This year we would be 8 maximum. The rest does not want to go anymore -fear of customs-anger for brexit (if they don't want us anymore ...)-uncertainly about legal and insurance situation in case of an accident ...
I agree, politics should not be discussed on a navigation forum, but as you haven’t met anyone to give you a real world benefit, let me just say:
The UK vaccine programme has proved to be far better than the EU fumbled attempt and despite the EU making it incredibly difficult for the UK, Nissan has announced over £400million of investment in the UK post Brexit. Us Brits are still European, nothing has changed. Johnny Foreigner will still be made to feel very welcome when he visits the UK despite what you might read or hear from the politically motivated media.
As for legal matters, nothing has changed, your license and insurance is still valid and as before, you’ll need to bring your vehicle registration document the same as Brits do when we go abroad.
I understand that the UK is a bit of a Mecca when it comes to scale models. Timo ordered some from the UK for himself last Christmas. (They arrived ok so did my new MRA RouteXpert jacket, it arrived from MRA HQ two days after posting)
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@Drabslab said in Find POI...:
@Nick-Carthew Don't mention Brexit. It's part of my daily job and a total nightmare. I don't want this to end in a political row, but I have never met any person, british or not, that could give me one real world benefit for anyone.
and Yes, I am dreaming to go the the UK later in november this year for another hobby (Telford IPMS scale modelling event). Done that for many years with a whole group (16 or something) as a kind of modelling pilgrimage; This year we would be 8 maximum. The rest does not want to go anymore -fear of customs-anger for brexit (if they don't want us anymore ...)-uncertainly about legal and insurance situation in case of an accident ...
I agree, politics should not be discussed on a navigation forum, but as you haven’t met anyone to give you a real world benefit, let me just say:
The UK vaccine programme has proved to be far better than the EU fumbled attempt and despite the EU making it incredibly difficult for the UK, Nissan has announced over £400million of investment in the UK post Brexit. Us Brits are still European, nothing has changed. Johnny Foreigner will still be made to feel very welcome when he visits the UK despite what you might read or hear from the politically motivated media.
As for legal matters, nothing has changed, your license and insurance is still valid and as before, you’ll need to bring your vehicle registration document the same as Brits do when we go abroad.
I understand that the UK is a bit of a Mecca when it comes to scale models. Timo ordered some from the UK for himself last Christmas. (They arrived ok so did my new MRA RouteXpert jacket, it arrived from MRA HQ two days after posting)
Tell your buddies that there is nothing to fear and they won’t notice any change at all.wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 15:58 last edited byPAD coughs politely and exits stage left with a rueful smile on his face…
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wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 16:07 last edited by PAD 0
@Drabslab I believe many in the UK have similar fears about visiting the EU now. Not only is it a crying shame, but it seems very largely unnecessary to me. Most of it is borne of media hyped ‘culture wars’ being fabricated by powerful groups and corporations with vested interests in division and destabilisation and the politicians who are in their pockets…
You and your mates come to the UK - you’ll be among friends.
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@PAD-0 yes, it is totally illegal in France.
However, just being back from two weeks in France, it appears as if the speed limits have been spread over the roads with a random number generator. Only logic remaining is that in cities or villages; 50km/h is the standard, if not indicated differently as being 30km/h, and I also saw 70 km/h in the middle of a city, and the best one: a white painted 50 km/h on the road with a sign 70km/h right next to it.
And what about a road in the middle of nowhere with a roadsign for 90 km/h in one direction and 70 km/h in the other direction.
This seems specially designed to create confusion and generate income for the state in combination with a massive amount of speed cameras (even in the middle of forests or mountain roads).
Having some protective equipment bcomes self-defence.
wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 16:57 last edited by@Drabslab said in Find POI...:
@PAD-0 yes, it is totally illegal in France.
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Having some protective equipment bcomes self-defence.Well, there is OpenStreetMap where you can take this information from. For free. Not in MRA, but you can easily extract that info from the OSM database and push it into your GPS device. I have a link available if you're interested, once upon a time I made a YouTube video of the steps to take for doing so...
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@Drabslab said in Find POI...:
@PAD-0 yes, it is totally illegal in France.
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Having some protective equipment bcomes self-defence.Well, there is OpenStreetMap where you can take this information from. For free. Not in MRA, but you can easily extract that info from the OSM database and push it into your GPS device. I have a link available if you're interested, once upon a time I made a YouTube video of the steps to take for doing so...
wrote on 15 Jul 2021, 13:04 last edited by@sudolea well, a link to that youtube video would be most welcome
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@Drabslab I believe many in the UK have similar fears about visiting the EU now. Not only is it a crying shame, but it seems very largely unnecessary to me. Most of it is borne of media hyped ‘culture wars’ being fabricated by powerful groups and corporations with vested interests in division and destabilisation and the politicians who are in their pockets…
You and your mates come to the UK - you’ll be among friends.
wrote on 15 Jul 2021, 13:07 last edited by@PAD-0 We've alays been amongst friends over there, and yes, we are coming again... be it in smaller number sthan before
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wrote on 15 Jul 2021, 14:15 last edited by
@Drabslab Here you go. All extractable with free tools :
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@Drabslab Here you go. All extractable with free tools :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_suJMMn90wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 10:27 last edited by@sudolea excellent, i'll have a go at it
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@Drabslab Here you go. All extractable with free tools :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_suJMMn90wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 10:41 last edited by@sudolea Je hebt vanaf heden een nieuw abbonnee er bij. Leuk kanaal! Ik ga jouw methode van de OSM data ook even proberen. Ook zeker wel interessant voor import in MRA. Weliswaar geen notificatie in MRA Navigation maar je kan op deze manier toch flitsers op de kaart tonen. Als ze al niet bij Navigation zelf bekend zijn en omgeroepen worden.
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@sudolea Je hebt vanaf heden een nieuw abbonnee er bij. Leuk kanaal! Ik ga jouw methode van de OSM data ook even proberen. Ook zeker wel interessant voor import in MRA. Weliswaar geen notificatie in MRA Navigation maar je kan op deze manier toch flitsers op de kaart tonen. Als ze al niet bij Navigation zelf bekend zijn en omgeroepen worden.
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 10:47 last edited by@StefanHummelink Dank je
Ik herhaal dit alles nu en dan, en dan maak ik het resultaat ervan downloadbaar (en zet ik een link in de beschrijving). De laatste keer dat ik dit deed was begin 2020, dus ik denk dat ik binnenkort maar beter nog eens die oefening herhaal... -
@StefanHummelink Dank je
Ik herhaal dit alles nu en dan, en dan maak ik het resultaat ervan downloadbaar (en zet ik een link in de beschrijving). De laatste keer dat ik dit deed was begin 2020, dus ik denk dat ik binnenkort maar beter nog eens die oefening herhaal...wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 10:59 last edited by@sudolea Hmmmmm! Ik weet niet of je de MRA RouteXperts Facebook pagina volgt, maar er wordt ook geregeld in die groep door een MRA Route Expert, ik meende René Plücken, een update gedeeld van de StreckenSperrungen.gpx... een file met alle afgesloten wegen in Duitsland.
Wellicht ben jij ook te porren om zoiets op te pakken?
,#durftevragen.Ik ga proberen het e.e.a. in een scriptje te vangen.
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@sudolea Hmmmmm! Ik weet niet of je de MRA RouteXperts Facebook pagina volgt, maar er wordt ook geregeld in die groep door een MRA Route Expert, ik meende René Plücken, een update gedeeld van de StreckenSperrungen.gpx... een file met alle afgesloten wegen in Duitsland.
Wellicht ben jij ook te porren om zoiets op te pakken?
,#durftevragen.Ik ga proberen het e.e.a. in een scriptje te vangen.
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 11:14 last edited by sudolea@StefanHummelink Ik heb de scriptjes hier gebruiksklaar liggen als je dat wil (configureerbaar met omgevingsvariabelen), voor Windows op Cygwin weliswaar. Moeten met niet te heel veel moeite naar Linux converteerbaar zijn (naar "echte" Windows daarentegen is andere koek - Windows en scripting is niet de beste combinatie voor mijn kunde).
edit : ah neen, die scriptjes staan ook in de beschrijving van dat filmpje...
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@StefanHummelink Ik heb de scriptjes hier gebruiksklaar liggen als je dat wil (configureerbaar met omgevingsvariabelen), voor Windows op Cygwin weliswaar. Moeten met niet te heel veel moeite naar Linux converteerbaar zijn (naar "echte" Windows daarentegen is andere koek - Windows en scripting is niet de beste combinatie voor mijn kunde).
edit : ah neen, die scriptjes staan ook in de beschrijving van dat filmpje...
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 11:17 last edited by@sudolea Hmmm, mijn skills onder Windows zijn ook beperkt. Heb op mijn werk ervaring met Linux CentOS 6 en 7 i.c.m. Gnome... Maar daar is mijn internet toegang beperkt vanwege beveiliging... Moet even zien in hoeverre het onder Windows lekker werkt. Anders toch deels handwerk.
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@sudolea Hmmm, mijn skills onder Windows zijn ook beperkt. Heb op mijn werk ervaring met Linux CentOS 6 en 7 i.c.m. Gnome... Maar daar is mijn internet toegang beperkt vanwege beveiliging... Moet even zien in hoeverre het onder Windows lekker werkt. Anders toch deels handwerk.
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 11:36 last edited by@StefanHummelink In Windows zul je dan beter Cygwin installeren om die bash- scriptjes aan de praat te krijgen. Ik heb wel een globaal scriptje dat de 4 acties in 1 keer uitvoert (OSM binnenhalen, de radars eruit halen in een .osm bestand, de oude .gpx hernoemen om tenslotte de nieuwe .gpx -"radars.gpx" - aan te maken). Als je een manier ziet om ze bij jou te krijgen, mag je dat scriptje best hebben, hoor. Als met dat script alles goed werkt, is de klus op een kleine 2 uur geklaard zonder manuele interventie (het downloaden en vervolgens het extraheren van de radars zijn beide nogal lange klussen, telkens ong. drie kwartier)...
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@StefanHummelink In Windows zul je dan beter Cygwin installeren om die bash- scriptjes aan de praat te krijgen. Ik heb wel een globaal scriptje dat de 4 acties in 1 keer uitvoert (OSM binnenhalen, de radars eruit halen in een .osm bestand, de oude .gpx hernoemen om tenslotte de nieuwe .gpx -"radars.gpx" - aan te maken). Als je een manier ziet om ze bij jou te krijgen, mag je dat scriptje best hebben, hoor. Als met dat script alles goed werkt, is de klus op een kleine 2 uur geklaard zonder manuele interventie (het downloaden en vervolgens het extraheren van de radars zijn beide nogal lange klussen, telkens ong. drie kwartier)...
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 11:51 last edited by@sudolea Ben ik inmiddels al mee begonnen.
Cygwin installeert nu. Met het script dat jij in de YouTube beschrijving hebt gezet kom ik er!Ik wil graag meerdere .sh maken om zo sneller van bijvoorbeeld enkele landen te downloaden. Heel europa is in mijn geval 99% van de tijd overkill. Ik kom over het algemeen niet verder dan NL, DL en BE.
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@sudolea Ben ik inmiddels al mee begonnen.
Cygwin installeert nu. Met het script dat jij in de YouTube beschrijving hebt gezet kom ik er!Ik wil graag meerdere .sh maken om zo sneller van bijvoorbeeld enkele landen te downloaden. Heel europa is in mijn geval 99% van de tijd overkill. Ik kom over het algemeen niet verder dan NL, DL en BE.
wrote on 16 Jul 2021, 11:56 last edited by@StefanHummelink Dat is een optie, inderdaad. Dan zou ik in jouw geval wel ook nog eens goed testen of je geen dubbele radars bekomt (in overlappende grensgebieden, namelijk). En in dat geval : of jouw GPS er goed op reageert. Iets zegt mij dat ik ooit eens zag vernoemd worden dat zijn GPS erop crashte. Dus toch nuttig om te testen, beter dan een trip plannen en dan jouw GPS zien crashen op de eerste radar die je op jouw route tegenkomt...
