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How to create a route from a track that matches the track?

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  • Martin van der Lindenundefined Offline
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    Martin van der Linden
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    How to create a route from a track that matches the actual track? And this without manually comparing and checking and adding waypoints? I thought that's why we have computers!

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    • Martin van der Lindenundefined Martin van der Linden

      How to create a route from a track that matches the actual track? And this without manually comparing and checking and adding waypoints? I thought that's why we have computers!

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      @Martin-van-der-Linden
      Open your track and then follow the hints at the screenshots:

      3D188C41-796F-497F-AEDA-400300771BD5.jpeg

      26F5AE7B-D246-435A-9AEA-D2127CED345B.jpeg

      Kindly regards
      Reinhard

      ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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        @Martin-van-der-Linden
        Open your track and then follow the hints at the screenshots:

        3D188C41-796F-497F-AEDA-400300771BD5.jpeg

        26F5AE7B-D246-435A-9AEA-D2127CED345B.jpeg

        Stefan Hummelinkundefined Offline
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        Stefan Hummelink
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        #3

        @Reinhard-32 This is only the first part of the track->route process...

        TS still had to "show" the original track underneath the "created" route and add or move waypoints to manually make the route equal to the track. The auto convert from route to track is never 100% accurate so one shall always perform some manual adjustments... Nevertheless, 80% of the work is done for ya this way. 😄

        Manks bu'j te bange.

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        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

          @Reinhard-32 This is only the first part of the track->route process...

          TS still had to "show" the original track underneath the "created" route and add or move waypoints to manually make the route equal to the track. The auto convert from route to track is never 100% accurate so one shall always perform some manual adjustments... Nevertheless, 80% of the work is done for ya this way. 😄

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          @StefanHummelink Exactly my point. But I have a bunch of offroad tracks (TET trails) and then the route is not 80% accurate but 80% not accurate. And how hard can it be to just set the waypoints exactly on the track-line? No matter whether there is a tarmac road underneath!?

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            Or even better, why is there no possibility to load a track on the Android/iOS MRA app and navigate that one?

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            • Martin van der Lindenundefined Martin van der Linden

              @StefanHummelink Exactly my point. But I have a bunch of offroad tracks (TET trails) and then the route is not 80% accurate but 80% not accurate. And how hard can it be to just set the waypoints exactly on the track-line? No matter whether there is a tarmac road underneath!?

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              @Martin-van-der-Linden Wow, you mentioning Offroad is a game changer!

              The algorithm tries to match your track with the roads that exist in the map used, that's how navigation on a map works...😋

              Offroad is a very special aspect of the routeplanning, and I'm not sure if this type of routes/riding can be designed correctly in the maps available in MRA. Note that Offroad requires waypoints to be set to Offroad/Skip to correctly be an off-road waypoint.

              Perhaps one of the more experienced riders and MRA specialists will respond here. @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master or perhaps @Nick-Carthew? These came up in my head straight away, definitely not saying others are not as experienced. 🤣😄

              Manks bu'j te bange.

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              • Martin van der Lindenundefined Martin van der Linden

                Or even better, why is there no possibility to load a track on the Android/iOS MRA app and navigate that one?

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                Stefan Hummelink
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                @Martin-van-der-Linden Because they are different apps with different purposes now. You need to realise that the MRA Nav app makes use of the Garmin Here map for navigation! A track may not exactly fit Garmin Here map for 100% so discrepancies are always applicable!

                Maybe this'll become an functionality in future updates of the app.

                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                  I think MRA would need to implement a topographical map to make possible what you want. Then the need to bind waypoints to roads would not be there anymore, and a track could be split into segments that can be routed by what Garmin explains as "Direct route", so not binded by roads. You can make your waypoints unbinded by roads like this:

                  f97db36d-19d7-4f1d-adc0-c63f23bcf0a2-image.png

                  But that is more like intended to overcome situations where the routing engine fails to see the possibility of passage.
                  I am afraid that off-road navigation will need the use of specific apps like Osmand for the foreseeable future.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    I see, track navigation is a completely different thing from route navigation. Ijust found OsmAnd and installed it on my iPhone. It seems perfectly happy loading gpx tracks and let you navigate them. I will test it the coming weeks. Maybe MRA will be able to do so in the future too!

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