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  • Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
    Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
    Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
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    Dear Garmin experts. I am asking this question on behalf of a fellow (frustrated) Garmin user from Italy called Enrico.
    I would like to hear your suggestions for transferring GPX files generated by MyRoute to my Garmin Zumo XT. Unfortunately I can never be sure that the import as a route remains unchanged. Despite the waypoints placed, Zumo feels free to vary the route between one waypoint and the next according to its logic: therefore, regardless of the settings with which I created the route - often completely manually to pass through certain places without considering the fastest/shortest route. If, however, I view it as a track on the Garmin, it remains faithful to the original but I lose all the information relating to the route, including recalculation in the case of forced detours. In short, how can I be sure that the route built with MRA is read as is by the Zumo XT? (It's not just my problem; the whole group I'm part of has the same problem.)

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    • Travellexxie
      Travellexxie
      Travellexxie
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      GPX1.2 recalculation set to off.

      Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

      Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
      Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
      MRA Lifetime Gold

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      • Mzokk
        Mzokk
        Mzokk
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        Or lots and lots of shaping points to pin the route if you want to use gpx 1.1

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        • Mzokk Mzokk

          Or lots and lots of shaping points to pin the route if you want to use gpx 1.1

          Travellexxie
          Travellexxie
          Travellexxie
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          #4

          @Mzokk exactly, but I prefer in this case the 1.2 and make the track visible.

          Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

          Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
          Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
          MRA Lifetime Gold

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          • Will Brooks
            Will Brooks
            Will Brooks
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            All valid ways mentioned above. The other way (more manual and user dependent!) is to have the track visible on the screen of the XT as well as the turn by turn route loaded and when the route and track don't match, ignore the route and follow the track!

            I generally use shaping points where the XT logic could use a different road to help "force" it and that with the combination of having the track overlayed on the map means I can ride the route I originally planned but also gives my flexibility if I want to divert due to accidents/road closures etc.

            As always it's a personal preference but this works for my usage of both MRA and the XT, others will have different views

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            • Will Brooks Will Brooks

              All valid ways mentioned above. The other way (more manual and user dependent!) is to have the track visible on the screen of the XT as well as the turn by turn route loaded and when the route and track don't match, ignore the route and follow the track!

              I generally use shaping points where the XT logic could use a different road to help "force" it and that with the combination of having the track overlayed on the map means I can ride the route I originally planned but also gives my flexibility if I want to divert due to accidents/road closures etc.

              As always it's a personal preference but this works for my usage of both MRA and the XT, others will have different views

              Travellexxie
              Travellexxie
              Travellexxie
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              @Will-Brooks that's why I wrote: "make the track visible"

              Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

              Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
              Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
              MRA Lifetime Gold

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              • HABVEN aka MrMRA
                HABVEN aka MrMRA
                HABVEN aka MrMRA
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                wrote last edited by HABVEN aka MrMRA
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                A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                It really isn't that difficult...

                BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                  A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                  And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                  It really isn't that difficult...

                  Travellexxie
                  Travellexxie
                  Travellexxie
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                  @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA not 50 viapoints? 🤣🙈

                  Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

                  Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
                  Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
                  MRA Lifetime Gold

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                  • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                    A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                    And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                    It really isn't that difficult...

                    John S Parry
                    John S Parry
                    John S Parry
                    wrote last edited by John S Parry
                    #9

                    @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA said:

                    A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT.

                    ........

                    It really isn't that difficult....

                    Thank you. For some reason, many believe that route recalculation can somehow be "turned off" when a GPX is imported into the Garmin. You can control recalculations in off-route scenarios, but there is no way for the Garmin to initially accept the GPX and automatically store it as created. Using MRA 1.2 is the closest GPX format to accomplishing no recalculation on the Garmin side, but re-calculation still does take place.

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